murphy4trees
TreeHouser
When I asked Jack how much of the tricks and techniques in his toolbox did he invent vs how much he learned. this was the reply:
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hotsaws101
20 hours ago
Daniel hi. Some of it I had heard of but never witnessed it being done. This one is not something I had heard about before trying myself. Am I the only one to think about it, surely not. I used a variation of the sizwell back in the late '70s. Did I understand the principle long before "hearing" about it through the grapevine. I posted a video of the "sizwell" back ~ '09 in the worlds ugliest stump vid. The Dutchmen is a fir type maneuver where the trees will hold on the stump. Pretty hard to do do in redwood country. For the most part it was get the concept and now go give it a whirl. Back slip, roll, holding the tree on the stump, kicking the tree off the stump is indigenous to old growth redwood falling as far as I know. I had heard about the back slip and tried it back in the '80s. I had a friend that cut some old growth reds in the late '70s. We talked about the roll, scarf, snipe a bit for timing purposes here and there. None of it is a really "a guy told me and now I'm proficient" type of a deal. I never really "bucked" under the head faller in the redwoods either. Most was just being in the middle of the strip and figuring it out on the fly. When all that was being used daily in the '80s, they (the mill) were getting $3500 a thousand for the sawn lumber. I fell some trees that had between 50,000 and 100,000 BF in them. That's trees 250/300 feet tall & 12/16 feet on the stump. I think my "in" was that I could get there really quickly because God gave me an understanding of physics. In the end it was a lot of thinking and refining by practicing while working in the industry. Thanks for watching.
Daniel hi. Thought about it a bit. I posted a video ~ 10 years ago with a fir that went up through the trees while the butt was slipping down to the side and at the same time going back. That was a combo of the back slip and patented funky face. Sometimes through improvisation techniques get blended also. It's hard to remember everything and sometimes the "trick" doesn't pan out as planned.... Then there is the double/triple hinge method that seems to be all the rage in the last few years. A variation of the concept has been around 35 years that I know of.
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hotsaws101
20 hours ago
Daniel hi. Some of it I had heard of but never witnessed it being done. This one is not something I had heard about before trying myself. Am I the only one to think about it, surely not. I used a variation of the sizwell back in the late '70s. Did I understand the principle long before "hearing" about it through the grapevine. I posted a video of the "sizwell" back ~ '09 in the worlds ugliest stump vid. The Dutchmen is a fir type maneuver where the trees will hold on the stump. Pretty hard to do do in redwood country. For the most part it was get the concept and now go give it a whirl. Back slip, roll, holding the tree on the stump, kicking the tree off the stump is indigenous to old growth redwood falling as far as I know. I had heard about the back slip and tried it back in the '80s. I had a friend that cut some old growth reds in the late '70s. We talked about the roll, scarf, snipe a bit for timing purposes here and there. None of it is a really "a guy told me and now I'm proficient" type of a deal. I never really "bucked" under the head faller in the redwoods either. Most was just being in the middle of the strip and figuring it out on the fly. When all that was being used daily in the '80s, they (the mill) were getting $3500 a thousand for the sawn lumber. I fell some trees that had between 50,000 and 100,000 BF in them. That's trees 250/300 feet tall & 12/16 feet on the stump. I think my "in" was that I could get there really quickly because God gave me an understanding of physics. In the end it was a lot of thinking and refining by practicing while working in the industry. Thanks for watching.
Daniel hi. Thought about it a bit. I posted a video ~ 10 years ago with a fir that went up through the trees while the butt was slipping down to the side and at the same time going back. That was a combo of the back slip and patented funky face. Sometimes through improvisation techniques get blended also. It's hard to remember everything and sometimes the "trick" doesn't pan out as planned.... Then there is the double/triple hinge method that seems to be all the rage in the last few years. A variation of the concept has been around 35 years that I know of.
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