Grivel twin gate
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MasterBlaster
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Yea, somebody posted that earlier. I think it's a great idea, but I wouldn't know for sure until I tried it.
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Sorry about the re-post but I feel the same as you, Butch, I would need to get my hands on one in order to determine how effective that double gate actually worked. My initial impression though is it looks cool and it might work well.
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MasterBlaster
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No problem. I think it's a cool biner... I wish I used em!
NickfromWI
King of Splices
Makes sense to me! Worth a try at least. Though that's not ANSI-satisfactory.
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Porkbrick
TreeHouser
would you say that is double locking? it seems very secure, i wonder if ansi could be convinced to make an exception to the triple locking rule if it could be demonstrated that this was more difficult to accidentally open? i know i have seen twist lock gates opened unintentionally.
NickfromWI
King of Splices
No way. One action. Then it's ready to open.
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Porkbrick
TreeHouser
but isnt the opening counted as an action? triple lock would be 1-push barrel up/down, 2-twist barrel, 3-open gate, no?
Reddog
TreeHouser
Correct
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You know the regulations for carabiners were put in place to protect the user from known problems. Non-lockers were replaced by lockers which were safer but people had trouble remembering to engage the lock. Next came auto-locking which solved the forgetting problem but the locks were too easy to defeat so then came double-locking and if double-locking is good, well then triple-locking must be great. That is the same logic for using multiple backup knots because the knot you tied cannot be trusted. It would be more appropriate to use a better knot. Maybe this is a better gate concept?
I need to get my hands on a couple to see what they are like, where's Bonner?
David
I need to get my hands on a couple to see what they are like, where's Bonner?
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Levi
Guest
Those look cool, I would try some for sure.
Porkbrick
TreeHouser
if you watch the vid all the way through he operates the biner wearing what looks like a hockey glove!
colin-roberts
Young Arborist
The mechanism looks like a pain to operate compared to the triple locks that most can do with there eyes closed.
I'm guilty of arriving at a negative verdict before examining all of the evidence.
Will have to come up with another reason to dislike them!
Page
TreeHouser
seems like a good concept. other wise carabiners will end up like shaving razors.
bonner1040
Nick from Ohio
I like it. I am going to get a few for sure.
MasterBlaster
Administrator Emeritus
As a cool keychain!
CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
I see twigs caught in the crabs future 
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Some place noncritical but in the mix, such as on a saw strap or a replacement for a Caritool to get a feel on how it functions in the work environment.
NickfromWI
King of Splices
Exactly. And this one is 1-open the outer gate and 2- open carabiner. It needs one more action.
Regardless, if I was at a store that had them, I'd pick one up out of curiosity.
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Marc-Antoine
TreeHouser
One problem is the side loading. All carabiners are weaker on this axis, but this one has nothing to help holding the gate in place. Even if it's a double gate.
And the gate doesn't add any strength to the biner's body, so I'm doubtful about the rating we use to have on our safety gear.
I agree that's a cool looking gear, but I'd put it at a non critical place.
And the gate doesn't add any strength to the biner's body, so I'm doubtful about the rating we use to have on our safety gear.
I agree that's a cool looking gear, but I'd put it at a non critical place.
kevin bingham
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Dmm now has quadruple action biners. That seems excessive to me. These look pretty cool
