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    I was asked to splice a whoopie and a few ultra slings by someone today. Tenex is so easy but I have no official training. Also the company he works for supplies a very minimal amount of gear and says that all gear must be company supplied. The GF tells them they can bring in extra, just donít get caught by the higher ups. What sort of liability would I be taking on? I was going to do it at a little over my cost for materials and cash with no paper trail but it still worries me a bit. Also Iíve had two failures, both on whoopie slings, and both were expected. They were worn out and the load was well over the limits. Also both were in a controlled circumstance. Basically I was testing to failure in the ďname of scienceĒ
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    I have wondered about that as well, and if there's a way to become "certified" to perform certain splices. And i also wonder if your general liability would cover it, especially if you called your insurance guy and made sure in writing. It's a sad day for rigging, but I'm afraid lawyers have successfully all but ruined the trade.
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    If liability is a concern of yours then you can't do it. Period.

    Comparable to the old couple with the big tree over their house (that has been there for 30 years). Once they have decided that liability exists, nobody is going to sleep well until the liability is gone. Therefore no amount of talking or reasoning will convince them the tree is fine because it's a liability.

    Therefore since you have already determined that splicing a sling for somebody will make you liable for that sling forever, there is no way you will ever sleep soundly once you sell your splicing work. So just stop right now and forget about it. Maybe one day when you quit running chainsaws and decide to start a splicing business you can purchase liability insurance and sell spliced slings. But that isn't now.
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    I’ll let it run a bit longer just for educational purposes. I most likely will explain to him why these slings cost what they do when purchased with tags on them and just be done with that. I do my own but I also am the only one using them and am mostly conservative in my rigging.
    I also just payed for a Fids and Fibers class but I doubt that would help with legal liability. Chris Girard, I would appreciate any insight from you before I ask to delete this
    -Rich

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    Why would you delete the thread?
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    Really don’t know. I’ve already decided I’m not doing the splicing so really no need. Going to contact tcia to see if the certified splicer program ever got anywhere. I doubt it though. To many rope manufacturers with to many different ropes.
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    What a day and age we live in.

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    That was my worry too, still it is. I made/make most of my splices and some hardware like a portawrap and a rigging block for my own. I'm reasonably confident in my ability to make good stuff, but the What If is a real concern.