squisher
THE CALM ONE!!!!
Cool pics Rich. Looks like a hell of a hiab. And that tractor setup looks sweet too.
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pantheraba
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Edit.....(and this is why I sometimes multipost in sequence...frikkin' Squisher already butted in while I was crafting this eloquent reply/bolstering of the boss.)
ESTIMATING the COG is the thing...my estimates suck sometimes when I have tried spider legs.
Here is how Alex and I handled a large limb in a tight space yesterday...two lines as the boss decrees (OK, suggests in his omnipotent wisdom....
)2nd line is there but doesn't show attachment which was near base cut at spar. Groundman (only have one when I am lucky) has to work like two monkeys to lower sometimes...when I can I take over the close line and handle it.
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CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
Nice job Gary 
Stumpshot
General Purpose
I guess we don't even think to do spider legs, since our GRCS lets us crank the limb to have pre-tension so it doesn't budge when cut, or crank further to lift it up to clear higher limbs.
treebilly
Student of the Jedi. OH-7106A
Spider legs have a place in day to day work. Not every day unless one uses a crane. I’ll use a spider leg a few times a month maybe. Give me a crane and it’s almost every pick till the spar
Grendel
TreeHouser
Nice one. No one in the UP has pools. . . like no one. haha
Trimmed and deadwooded a number of lakeside trees, three oaks and a stately White Pine. No cleanup, perfect night.
Trimmed and deadwooded a number of lakeside trees, three oaks and a stately White Pine. No cleanup, perfect night.
treebilly
Student of the Jedi. OH-7106A
Nice work all.
I apologize for my lack of pics but I?ve been kinda burnt out on it. Took a vacation and now I?m being slammed with way to dead removals. A lot of cut and pray and cut and toss shit. Hopefully that?s over tomorrow and I can actually cut something that resembles wood. Been putting stabilizing lines in and removing two outta three to yank over what you could call a spar. Relatively easy bucket work but why would anyone let trees stand dead that long with targets around?
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I apologize for my lack of pics but I?ve been kinda burnt out on it. Took a vacation and now I?m being slammed with way to dead removals. A lot of cut and pray and cut and toss shit. Hopefully that?s over tomorrow and I can actually cut something that resembles wood. Been putting stabilizing lines in and removing two outta three to yank over what you could call a spar. Relatively easy bucket work but why would anyone let trees stand dead that long with targets around?
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Nutball
TreeHouser
We gotta finish this one tomorrow. I hope it is smooth going. I get to break out the 42" bar for the second time, I just hope there's no metal or rocks in the tree. I modified my oiler too to keep up with the big bar.
CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
We just got back from a little beach get away and had to clean up this mess. Monterrey Pine he had us trim out dead from before. Bad head lean so this was pretty predictable.
Fodder.
Fodder.
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SeanKroll
Treehouser
Regarding any advanced tricks, good experiences come from good judgment; good judgment comes from bad experiences.
Also, you get better, faster, and more efficient, by starting being lesser, slower and inefficient. The hardest time is the first time. Nobody's every done it many times, until they have done their first time.
Also, you get better, faster, and more efficient, by starting being lesser, slower and inefficient. The hardest time is the first time. Nobody's every done it many times, until they have done their first time.
Burnham
Woods walker
Regarding the oftentimes challenge of presetting spiderlegs to the COG.
I have at times put a micro-pulley or a carabiner at the apex of the two legged spider rather than a fixed point to the lifting and lowering line, but intentionally placing the spiders way in from the tips, putting COG too close to the butt to expect balance, so the butt has a strong tendency to rise....and put a tag line on the butt end of the piece. Then the ground crew can manage balance without any guesswork on my part.
Really long and heavy open grown Douglas fir limbs...that's when I used this system.
A side benefit of this technique is that the groundies can swing the piece left or right as needed to clear obstructions of any sort.
As I think on it, you could do the same with a single attachment point...I haven't seen the need to do so in my experience, but the logic is the same.
I have at times put a micro-pulley or a carabiner at the apex of the two legged spider rather than a fixed point to the lifting and lowering line, but intentionally placing the spiders way in from the tips, putting COG too close to the butt to expect balance, so the butt has a strong tendency to rise....and put a tag line on the butt end of the piece. Then the ground crew can manage balance without any guesswork on my part.
Really long and heavy open grown Douglas fir limbs...that's when I used this system.
A side benefit of this technique is that the groundies can swing the piece left or right as needed to clear obstructions of any sort.
As I think on it, you could do the same with a single attachment point...I haven't seen the need to do so in my experience, but the logic is the same.
Nutball
TreeHouser
Anyone know if a 134DL chain will fit a 42" bar? A new 135DL already has the tensioner half out, and it isn't long before the end is reached.
flushcut
TreeHouser
Edit.....(and this is why I sometimes multipost in sequence...frikkin' Squisher already butted in while I was crafting this eloquent reply/bolstering of the boss.)
ESTIMATING the COG is the thing...my estimates suck sometimes when I have tried spider legs.
Here is how Alex and I handled a large limb in a tight space yesterday...two lines as the boss decrees (OK, suggests in his omnipotent wisdom....
2nd line is there but doesn't show attachment which was near base cut at spar. Groundman (only have one when I am lucky) has to work like two monkeys to lower sometimes...when I can I take over the close line and handle it.
On small limbs like that when using a biner take a full wrap around the stem it helps lessen the side loading on the gate.
Merle Nelson
TreeHouser
How did you modify your oiler?
SeanKroll
Treehouser
Used to do projects on the desert with the National Park Service cutting and spraying invasive trees.
Their 28" chains would quickly wear/ stretch beyond the tensioner because of sand. When they became too long, they took out a link.
Wait until it's a problem to pop a link, IMO.
pantheraba
More biners!!!
Good tip there....thanks on the extra wrap.
biggun
Monkey for Hire
A couple more pictures from the work in the west coast.
Last 2 trees out of the six we removed. Raining in and off all day.
Both crowns down to sticks by 11.30 and then some stem work.
Rich
Last 2 trees out of the six we removed. Raining in and off all day.
Both crowns down to sticks by 11.30 and then some stem work.
Rich
MasterBlaster
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Why the undercut in the last lift???
Mick!
TreeHouser
Lovely work Rich.
Re. The spider leg debate...
I haven’t done it in years, reason being by the time you’ve rigged it all up, got the balance wrong and generally arsed about you could have rigged it out in smaller pieces.
Re. The spider leg debate...
I haven’t done it in years, reason being by the time you’ve rigged it all up, got the balance wrong and generally arsed about you could have rigged it out in smaller pieces.
MasterBlaster
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+10.
A time waster 95% of the time.
Just gimme another rope.
A time waster 95% of the time.
Just gimme another rope.
pantheraba
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That's a hilarious description with a lot of truth in it.
CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
Nice work Rich. I need more crane work!
biggun
Monkey for Hire
It is just a release cut on the stem. Almost impossible to get the saw trapped. The Kiwi's call it a crane cut. It works really well.
biggun
Monkey for Hire
Yes I must admit it looked a bit odd.
One of the ground staff sent me a few pictures from Monday. You can see what it was all about.
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pantheraba
More biners!!!
I have taken trees out of decks...and seen gutters routed around trees. But NEVER a tree with the roof modified to preserve it. Gotta be more out there but that's radically different!
Thanks for the picture.
Thanks for the picture.
