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    Never, Butch.

    Closest thing would be site prep for reforestation planting using a tracked excavator type machine with a disc style mulching head on it. Not very close, really. And then only as a contract administrator. I ran the machine for about 15 minutes once, just for experience.

    Like the first video in this link...I can't seem to embed it.

    http://www.slashbuster.com/videos.htm

    Slashbuster does have a stump grinding head, but we never used one of those. Also a vid in the link, if anyone is interested.
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    That's one hella piece of equipment!!!

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    It does a really nice job, if the operator is competent and careful.
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    I bet it's an experience to operate!

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    I felt all-powerful!
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    The great and powerful OZ!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skwerl2 View Post
    I'm a lazy urban tree man, not a logger. I have never found a good reason for making my notch at ground level. Mainly because no matter how low I cut the notch, I'm still going to make a stump cut to get the stump low and flat. Therefore I have always made my notch at a comfortable height while standing. Again, I cannot find a good reason to get down on my hands and knees to make a notch and drop cut. I need to be standing and mobile to exit the kill zone when the tree begins to fall.

    In short, make your notch at 3' off the ground and avoid the root flare altogether. Notching at the ground level has many negative issues and zero positive ones. Unless you're a logger and trying to maximize your yield, that is.
    For us, we are either loading logs in our own trucks with the skid steer or on larger jobs with lots of big wood, we're stacking the logs for pick up ... making the falling cut low enough for stump grinding without a flush cut saves the trouble of handling the loose piece from the flush cut. The log truck doesn't want to take a short piece. The chip dumps don;t want the short piece in with the chips... If you re cutting up the log for firewood, then it doesn't matter much.. When there is a tight drop zone, I of course prefer to keep the hinge above the trunk flare.. BUT with a 100 hp stump grinder cutting the notch just above the flare, which is well below hip height, this can still be done without the need to flush cut the stump, on many trees. And I rarely need to escape from the cut... With the pulling power of the skid steer I rarely need to stay at the stump .... Nice to walk away and just wave the arm..

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    To me cutting at ground level is bad because wouldn't think hitting straight grain; and picking up sand during felling.
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    The upside is the tree tipping last piece off of stump for you.
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    i'd hate to say i side with skwerl2;but would do the same;
    make separate task/price/grind of stump opportunity.
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    i like Burnham's toy; except killing becomes too easy..
    But, it fits very nicely with a salient reverberating lessons from Guy Mueller ;
    he noted 1x that stump grindings shouldn't be removed; they belong to the site!
    Seems like that machine would lend that way, try to keep mulch level low enough not to suffocate/sour the ground.
    For, in life the nutrients were drawn from that ground, leaves would recycle to re-feed same nutrients.
    Cycle broken by 'refuse' removal; could even be more colorful and say that removal 'rapes' the site of it's treasured goodies!
    One man's trash, well, jest might be Nature's gold!
    Nature doesn't make a plan, that She can't capitalize on even the losses!
    We interfere; we go with own internal gift of cognitive voice; turning to curse as it is yelling over Nature's screams sometimes that all else hears so well!
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    Keeping the notch in the straight grain and still making the flush cut easy to handle... much of it depemnds on what kind of equipment you use...

    Notch doesn;t need to be 3' high... unless you don't feel like bending over, which we all have those kind of days

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    took another 12-16" off this one before grinding ... 3' would have been a hassle

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