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    1 Day Ago
    If i tried that i would be soaking wet and likely paralyzed hahahahah
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    1 Day Ago
    :lol: the title had me thinking something terrible was about to go down
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    2 Days Ago
    Tree09 replied to a thread How'd it go today? in Odds and Ends
    Dave, none of that was directed to you in anyway. And yes, engineers are the worst :D
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    2 Days Ago
    Tree09 replied to a thread How'd it go today? in Odds and Ends
    The only carpenter that won't steal your job was Jesus, and really he was a laborer. In reality, they do not respect trade jurisdictions, and will do any work that they can, despite not having a damn clue. Very common to see them attempting to be an operator, ironworker, fitter, plumber, etc. It happens so often on about every job one gets name a carpen- insert trade. They attempted to quit the afl (i think they came back, but not sure) in an attempted and failed power and work grab. Since carpentry is ubiquitous, many will do side work at nonunion wages, slitting their own throats, but since it's residential no one cares. Coming from a trade where your solidarity and concern for your fellow members is more important than your own bank account or bank payments, some of their attitudes have lead most different trades to resent them. When i was a first year apprentice, the foremen had set up a schedule where we would have time to get the tools, material, and equipment in and out of the mechanical room. My journeyman and i noticed that a couple of them were fixing to install a wall and door in our way, so we're walked up and nicely reminded them that we would be coming right through here with a bunch of stuff, so they needed to go do something else because that was the agreed upon plan. 2 hours later they had it all framed up and had started drywalling it. The journeyman i was with took the scissor lift and proceeded to ram the wall at an angle, folding the metal studs in half and crushing the sheetrock. He then backed up and fixed the other side, making wayyyyyyyyyy more room than was needed. As we were driving by they came back from break yelling and everything, he calmly told them that we weren't kidding, and they would be wise to wait to fix it because the lift would have to come out. They learned. Now i know not all are like that, and i get along perfectly fine with them. Trade jurisdictions exist so trained and qualified people do a job, leaving work alone that requires someone different who had a different skill set. At times trades overlap a bit, so some of that is bound to happen. But when a guy attempts to do all sorts of stuff that clearly isn't his work he is fucking someone over for his attempted gain, and i can't respect or abide that. Edit: sorry Rich that's a bad day!!!!
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    2 Days Ago
    Tree09 replied to a thread August Hunicke Videos in MBTV
    I agree the cost would be minimal for what you get, especially considering the cost of a truck. I bet i could also use it on the welder, so that would be worth it alone too. Thanks man, learn something here everyday.
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    Tree09 replied to a thread Dot and CDL stuff in Gear Forum
    How do you background and employment verify? What does the employment verify even mean?
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    3 Days Ago
    Tree09 replied to a thread How'd it go today? in Odds and Ends
    Oh ok, he's taking the apprentice test, good deal lol. From the way it sounded i thought he was taking his journeyman test to buy a card. Although i hate carpenters, it's a good trade and he should do well.
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    3 Days Ago
    I forgot, just sent it.
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    3 Days Ago
    Do you have a lift Cory? Is one viable in your area?
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    3 Days Ago
    Tree09 replied to a thread How'd it go today? in Odds and Ends
    Sean, if your friend is testing to be a journeyman carpenter, I would advise your friend to come in at a 3rd year apprentice. Several reasons: 1. It is very important to the hall to keep apprentices working, so the likelihood of him staying busy goes up dramatically. 2. He will learn a bunch of stuff he doesn't know yet. 3. Probably the most important: He will be accepted as a full union member by fellow members. Everyone knows if a guy just bought his book, but after a couple years no one will remember that he came in halfway through his apprenticeship. I told this exact advice to 2 friends who did the same, and both were excellent carpenters, 1 has quit while the other is a superintendent. If you are a journeyman, absolutely no one will wait for you to learn, that's what the apprenticeship is for. Doesn't matter if you haven't built scaffold before but could build anything else, you are gone because they can't afford to pay you top scale to do non top scale work. Come in as an apprentice, work more, learn more and them earn a bunch more in a couple years. Please trust me, this will work out much better in the long run for him.
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    3 Days Ago
    Tree09 replied to a thread August Hunicke Videos in MBTV
    Wow those are awesome!!!! I might look into that! About how much do they want for one?
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    3 Days Ago
    :lol:
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    Tree09 replied to a thread August Hunicke Videos in MBTV
    You usually start the truck early so it can warm up too, i forget not everyone lives where there's snow and freezing cold
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    Tree09 replied to a thread August Hunicke Videos in MBTV
    I think everyone has attempted to drive off with the block heater still plugged in at least once :lol:
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    3 Days Ago
    At least he won't reproduce!!!
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    4 Days Ago
    Great, now I'll see giant spiders in my sleep again!!! Cool pics, just don't like spiders at all.
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    4 Days Ago
    Tree09 replied to a thread In The News... in Odds and Ends
    Eh, i bet the pyramids were just like any other massive construction project, basically using slaves to do work :lol: I've read that conditions were crappy, but not as crappy as one would think because even then skilled tradesmen were valuable, so it made sense to treat them ok so they could still effectively work. Remember that on some of the jobs in my field projected fatalities are still calculated for the bid.... The raising of the Vatican obelisk comes to mind too, where talking during the lift was punishable by death because it might mess up the coordination of it all.
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    4 Days Ago
    Tree09 replied to a thread August Hunicke Videos in MBTV
    Lock out tag out is used daily for me working pipe and stuff, you can't do anything safely without it. I usually go a step further and walk everything down too, because I don't trust others when it's me that will be killed. We use lockout boxes, and everyone on the job puts a lock on it so no one can be forgotten. Great idea putting the keys somewhere so you can't forget the outriggers, having the chipper key on the truck keychain would work there and be simple enough for everyone.
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    Tree09 replied to a thread In The News... in Odds and Ends
    Yeah that's not good.
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    5 Days Ago
    Hahahahahaha
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    6 Days Ago
    Tree09 replied to a thread August Hunicke Videos in MBTV
    + infinity boss. I've even joked to operators before that my channellocks don't talk to me, so why should they be any different? Lol gets them riled up a bit for sure hahahahaha.
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    6 Days Ago
    Tree09 replied to a thread August Hunicke Videos in MBTV
    Yes, but a good one knows that his place is in the seat, so he should stfu and pull levers when he's told :D
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    6 Days Ago
    Same here. So basically treehousers are all brilliant!!!!
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    6 Days Ago
    3 to 5 inches of snow, which melted when it turned to rain. Game of Thrones was right, winter is here for the season premiere :lol:
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    1 Week Ago
    Yes there are, but it's actually brains over brawn usually. The laziest laborers can also be some of the best, because they know how to make a machine do the work. The operator ideally just does exactly what he's told, while watching for other hazards that the laborer can't see. The good laborers will make the operator curl under pipe then back off, causing the dirt to calmly collapse away, removing the need for massive amounts of hand digging. They also know to grab a skid (4x6" cribbing) and have the operator grab it with the grapple to clean under the pipe, exactly how low to dig so the welder has room to work, which side the welder will be laying on, the rigging to get stuff where it needs to be, know exactly how to crib, how to sandblast and coat, the ability to look ahead and plan for all this stuff, etc. Just because you are just a laborer doesn't mean you don't have an important skilled job. There was one guy in particular who i worked with the last couple years who was an absolute beast. Hand digging dirt flew like it was a conveyor, but he was a master of everything else too. He was so good at epoxy coating that you could shave your face in the reflection, and was big enough that he made throwing the 5x10x3/4 shoring plywood around look like cardboard (very heavy and coated for longevity). Hardest working dude I've ever met, and very highly skilled. He usually is the spread boss now, and is one of the nicest guys I've ever met. He would literally give you the shirt off his back if you needed one, and he is worth everything they pay him and them some. I've met several who were close to that level, but he definitely takes the cake. Another laborer on the building trades side was close, he was much older but really knew his stuff. He figured out how we could rig some large boilers in a basement, planned it all out with the fitter foreman, and over the weekend had dug a ramp down to the basement floor, laid a floor of street plates, used an oxygen lance to cut a hole through the foot thick reinforced concrete wall, cut up an old boiler, and moved it all out through the opening, ready for the new boilers to go in. I've watched him lower a mini ex into a hole with a full size excavator to dig out a sheet pile pit (inside a building with little headroom), and taught me one of my favorite sayings/ teachings... "Burn gas not ass" :lol: cool guy, did volunteer work in Africa to help with drinking water and stuff like that. So although laborers are known for sweeping floors and hand digging, a large portion of their trade is actually very highly skilled work and can make or break a job.
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    1 Week Ago
    Stig :lol: Awesome pics B, some very beautiful country and it shows you guys had a great time!!! Keep em coming, I'm living vicariously through you right now :)
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    1 Week Ago
    That is such a cool pic boss, and I would feel honored that lesser beings used my pic in a safety seminar :lol:
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    1 Week Ago
    Hahahahahaha that thing is so cool Gary!!!!!
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    1 Week Ago
    Hydro or air vac trucks. Awesome piece of equipment. You dig a hole straight down, and then widen it by undercutting the side walls, and it takes much less work. Hands down the easiest and safest way to daylight utilities. A trick we use is to dump sand where you need to dig again, and you don't need to loosen sand so it just sucks up. For example you have to dig spot holes to safely drill past existing utilities, so you can actually watch to make sure you didn't hit an existing line. But you also know that you have to come back later and dig up the service line to the house again, so you dump sand in the gas service line hole so you can run through later and just suck it out without digging at all. Edit: another cool trick is to use the dig a bailout hole and cave into it even when you are hand digging. You work on the digging out part and catch your breath on the caving part. Yes, there's a science even to hand digging lol. Another cool trick is to tack weld a plate on the teeth of the bucket, so you have even less likelihood of popping a utility, and will give a nice flat hard bottom if the trench.
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