• murphy4trees's Avatar
    13 Hours Ago
    This video doesn't demonstrate the concept well, and as a mater of fact is very misleading.. I don't usually post videos of a new technique until I;ve tried it many times and on many species and have a complete understanding of it's application, and limitations and have all the do's and don't dialed in. I was feeling somewhat inspired by stig's thread or I wouldn't have even bothered posting this technique publicly. Saw snatch is definable NOT a concern.. But as posted before this was only the SECOND TIME I tried this technique and don't expect to use it enough to completely understand it... At this point I'd just be guessing as to how to best make this cut... The triple hinge seems like a great technique to solve side-lean, probably more reliable and easier to understand, and perhaps better performing.... However that doesn't mean the staggered back cut doesn't have a place in the tool box.... But someone else will have to do the field work to figure that out... I hope it does and hope that this thread was the beginning of a new technique... If a good scenario comes up again, I will try to get a better video and explanation published...
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  • gf beranek's Avatar
    13 Hours Ago
    Welcome to the House!
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  • mistahbenn's Avatar
    17 Hours Ago
    Ive just started taking CBD oil and so has the wife, man I am so much less stressed out! Work, traffic, people, used to really piss me off but now im alot more relaxed. Been sober 20 weeks today too, that saves alot of money! Cheers to the king of all plants!
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  • murphy4trees's Avatar
    1 Day Ago
    Here's the client's facebook post.. She said everyone else that bid the tree was going to use a crane... wide open yard on one side, but it seems like more and more arbs around here are going with cranes as SOP. TWO HUGE TREES DOWN Today we said goodbye to two large trees on our property. One was split down the middle and clearly NOT going to make it through another winter without taking out our new fence. The other lost its top last winter. In my zip code, tree removal quotes ALWAYS involve HUGE numbers and CRANES. Thank GOD for DAN MURPHY who, after saying a prayer to the tree, ARTFULLY AND PRECISELY FELLS IT ALONE WITH JUST HIS FREAKIN CHAINSAW and his eyeballs. 3 cool dudes then help him clean up. Got big trees that need to come down but don’t want to tear up your yard? Call Dan.
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  • murphy4trees's Avatar
    1 Day Ago
    I actually thought that BEFORE your last post ;) But certainly wouldn't draw any conclusions from the sherlock holmes reference.. too easy to misinterpret .. you were a bit abrasive back in your drinking days, but you put many smiles on my face with your sarcastic and sometimes caustic humor..
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  • murphy4trees's Avatar
    1 Day Ago
    A lot of people are saying that the hinge was too thick... I don't see it that way... Original back cut seemed to be deep enough if there was proper pull to get the tree moving in the right direction. If anything it was high on the one side (as was said plenty too), which caused needless drag on the hinge.... Simply not enough pull... and did anyone notice the tractor there??? Suppose the truck started spinning rubber.. That would have been tine to get the tractor pulling.. Would be good to know why Woody didn't set a higher pull line... He's fortunate to have so many caring and knowledgeable friends around here..
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  • gf beranek's Avatar
    1 Day Ago
    cute.
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  • gf beranek's Avatar
    1 Day Ago
    Short-blocking. is that the right term for what happened with that crane?
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  • August Hunicke's Avatar
    2 Days Ago
    I made this one today after years of. . .
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  • gf beranek's Avatar
    2 Days Ago
    gf beranek replied to a thread In The News... in Odds and Ends
    Jone's thugs had the people under the gun to drink that cool-aid. They would've shot ya dead anyway if you diddn't drink it. The ones that escaped were lucky. total wacks
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  • gf beranek's Avatar
    2 Days Ago
    Amazing trees
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    2 Days Ago
    Nice. That spider...
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  • murphy4trees's Avatar
    6 Days Ago
    Hickory and sweetgum are mighty stringy and near impossible to split by hand... I haven't touched a maul in this millennium... Haven't used a splitter since around '92.... Have noticed a relationship: stringy wood that's hard to split seems to have excellent holding ability
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  • murphy4trees's Avatar
    6 Days Ago
    Been thinking about your post Stig.. Great info.. got my wheels turning...
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  • murphy4trees's Avatar
    1 Week Ago
    WOW. I hadn't thought about that... Wind resistance seems like it could effect the roll of a top, however this one looks like it starts turning very early before there is enough speed for wind resistance to be much of a factor. I definitely effects the way the limbs fall, making the tips float and the buts drop, but I think there is a better explanation for the pine top.. Thanks for that thought... worthy of consideration... Anyone else have a suggestion???
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  • murphy4trees's Avatar
    1 Week Ago
    Me too.. I need to get out and see more of the world... I'll keep it on the bucket list and be happy to pay my own ticket when the time comes... Appreciate the info... more of a curiosity though as you rightly say its a much different world than residential arb work. Rolling seems like a very good strategy... better to set it up to roll during the fall than fighting it after the tree gets hung up. the risk of hang ups is something we almsot never face in suburban backyards..... I've seen large tops roll 90 to 180 degrees during the drop and haven't figured out exactly why... I thought I had figured it out after the top of this pine tree spun 180 degrees before hitting the ground... https://youtu.be/7Y5_bGt-sL4?t=678, but never experimented with it enough to remember exactly what caused it. Notice in this video at 13:21 you can see the notch pointing straight up in the air, when it should be pointing down.. and you can see the top roll or spin during the fall.. clearly spun 180 degrees during the fall.... One thing for sure that is required is a very narrow notch so the piece has time to roll after the hinge breaks.... I was also wondering if the way the pull line was wrapped might have torqued the top to make it spin. The side of the hinge that rolled back, let go first and was clearly the side that held the least.... another mystery to be solved .. 35 years later and still love teasing out every bit of knowledge possible.. the level of the back cut certainly may have something to do with it. I was thinking if it would be done reliably it could be used to spin a side leaning limb out of the way during a fall.... would be a nice trick to have in the bag, though rarely needed...
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  • murphy4trees's Avatar
    1 Week Ago
    the video is a little deceptive... the back of the hinge was preset by the low undercut, which appears as a kerf from the camera's view. I thought the tree was going to have enough front lean to trip the fall when I made that (low backcut on the tension side) but it didn't move, and I didn't want to thin that side of the hinge out any more, so needed to take more off the higher back cut to get it to trip. Looks like I was plunging a bit to thin out the center of the hinge from the higher (compression side) back cut, which was all she needed to move... There was no bypass from the higher cut being made in the video and the low back cut (seen as a kerf cut), so the lower plunged back cut on the tension side defined the back of the hinge on the tension side... (guessing Stig meant that, but just mis-wrote it) don't feel bad if you're a little confused. I actually had to watch it in slow motion a few times to figure out what happened, and I was there the first time...
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  • gf beranek's Avatar
    1 Week Ago
    Wild! Do you know what that's called, Butch. The mechanizum. There's got to be a name for it.
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  • murphy4trees's Avatar
    1 Week Ago
    I would like to try the triple hinge or maybe back it off to a double hinge, and will probably put in a double kerf between the hinges when I do, but I honestly haven't had much of a chance to do so lately... I've been waiting since 2010 for the right tree to try the staggered back cut on, and never really got a grasp of the Wizzy though I remember the thread here went into a good bit of detail, explanation and illustration... If we had enough times to experiment we might be able to say what works better, how the cuts should be adjusted based on tree species, size, lean etc. or maybe find that certain cuts work better in certain scenarios... I don't think I'll ever have enough chance to experiment with it enough to come to reliable conclusions... maybe with all the ash trees dying I'll get a chance to experiment... I will say that the locust tree here was a monster, big and heavy leaning close to 45 degrees.. https://youtu.be/XI57_nTRkd0?t=96 . I would not have expected any cut to slow it down or turn it, once it started moving. So that reflects well on the staggered back cut, but with locust being such a strong hinging wood, perhaps the triple hinge could have been just as effective... WE MAY NEVER KNOW FOR SURE! But if those that drop trees all day every day (Stig) experiment with it, and are generous enough to share their findings, we may glean some new understandings... Looking forward to it!
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  • murphy4trees's Avatar
    1 Week Ago
    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/9MLYxZPaFDo" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe> There is very little explanation of the thinking behind this cut in the video, so please take the time to read this description if you have an interest in expanding your bag of tricks in tree falling. Staggered Backcut refers to splitting the back cut into two different cuts at two different heights to fight a heavy side lean. The backcut on the side of the lean is cut at level or slightly above level with the face cut, per standard practices. The backcut on the side away from the lean is cut BELOW the height of the face cut. This gives the hinge fibers on the "low cut" side MUCH more holding ability. The differential in height can be adjusted according to the species and amount of side lean. This Norway maple had very heavy side lean and a good bit of front lean. The drop zone was fairly tight between the pool and the shrubbery beds along the fence line. The tree could make the lay if the huge side lean could be overcome. Norway maple is a poor hinging species, so any type of standard hinge, tapered or otherwise would not be trusted. Other options included setting up a retainer line as shown in this video: https://youtu.be/4HRVsoM9bxc , but that would have required a good bit of time to set up. And I wanted to see if how well the staggered back cut could hold a poor hinging wood like Norway maple, in a relatively low risk scenario (only the shrubs, the fence, and my pride and reputation were at risk) . The hinge held well enough that there was NO DAMAGE to the shrubs with almost no room to spare. SO this was a successful experiment. And since this is only the second time I have tries this cut, more experimentation is needed to fully understand its limitations. The first time I tried the staggered back cut was in 2010 by making a similar cut on a large front leaning locust in this video. https://youtu.be/XI57_nTRkd0?t=96 The locust in this cited video had a huge front lean and yet was pulled significantly left by hinge fibers on the left side of the hinge which held against the front lean because the back cut on the left side of the hinge. I was surprised at the time to see how far to the left and how slowly the tree went due to the staggered backcut. A close study of the video showed without a doubt that the fibers on the left side of the hinge from the low back cut held powerfully enough to slow and turn the tree. In the case of the Norway maple, I was just trying to get it to the lay without losing it to the side weight and NOT trying to "turn" the tree.
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  • RegC's Avatar
    1 Week Ago
    That and good heat. Grand fir as a comparison doesnt produce so much heat.
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  • RegC's Avatar
    1 Week Ago
    Firewood still a big thing here. And Douglas fir the most sought after
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  • RegC's Avatar
    1 Week Ago
    Thanks all. I should mention, perfect weather made all the difference. Its funny, you notice more that your in a tall tree when its windy Cory, 3-400 id guess for the big ones. 5ft 16 in. They are sold already $300, buyer collects as is. Pete, the very fine dust from old doug fir bark should not be ingested. Soon as your saw passes through it theres a plume. That gnarly characteristic is typical in the veteran's. Worse nearer the bottom. Not so much in anything less than 100 years old. The rings on this one suggested it was about 230. Yes Gary, I set it that way for the extra support.
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  • murphy4trees's Avatar
    1 Week Ago
    was he trying to turn or roll the tre by leaving that chunk in the right side of the face cut??? Always hard to tell from video if the tree actually turned
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  • gf beranek's Avatar
    1 Week Ago
    I'd be a wuped pup the next morning. Best to take the extra time to get done in one day. Be worse to have to go up on the second day. Speaking of pitch. Windchecks in old-growth fir can hold 10- 20 gallons of pitch. Once you vent a check to the atmosphere it can suck air, gurgle and pour out pitch for an hour, and there's not much else you can do until it's done. Nasty. I've always like the smell of it though.
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