USFS Rigging and Removal workshop/certification

Burnham · Sep 27, 2010

We call this EC-4...endorsement category 4 for chainsaw use by climbers. This past week I facilitated yet another of these coveted training opportunities for FS tree climbers.

Nothing special to members here, just a week of some classroom and mostly hands on experience in learning the ropes, gear and techniques.

I do get rave reviews from most of the students...fun for them, they learn a ton and aside from a bit of stress, fun for me, too.

A few pics.

OK, some bright guy can now tell me why the pictures don't post in the order i uploaded them...damn it.

Burnham · Sep 27, 2010

A few more pictures.

pigwot · Sep 27, 2010

I thought someone mentioned earlier that you could hit "Preview", and then drag and drop the pics into whichever order you want them?

Burnham · Sep 27, 2010

I thought so too, had no luck with it...they just jumped back to where they'ed been...but thanks anyway

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rskybiz · Sep 27, 2010

The smiles on the faces say it, they enjoyed Burnham!!

Burnham · Sep 27, 2010

pigwot said:
I thought someone mentioned earlier that you could hit "Preview", and then drag and drop the pics into whichever order you want them?

Some success in edit mode...still not quite getting how it works...or it is intermittent in how it does work. But I got 'em arranged a bit better.

OTGBOSTON · Sep 27, 2010

Hey Burnham, I overheard some of the USDA guys talking about getting more climbers for the ALB project here in Boston. If I overheard correctly the only place they can go to get certified/qualified is Oregon? Seemed kinda odd to me. I had to resist the urge to ask 'em if they new ya....

Burnham · Sep 27, 2010

Couldn't only be from Oregon, Greg. They've been using climbers from the Smokejumper bases since the ALB first showed up in Chicago and NY...bases in CA, WA, ID, MT, as well as OR. other FS climbers as well, but the bulk have been jumpers.

It may be true that finding qualified climbers who are able or willing to take a 6 week detail is difficult from elsewhere that out west...but certainly not limited to Oregon alone.

I know for a fact that there are plenty of jumpers in several bases who'd be happy to get a detail to Whoosta. Some at this workshop were recently back, and a bunch had done earlier details.

We have had several climbers/instructors from APHIS at the last two years' workshops at Dorena...some may recall my name

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OTGBOSTON · Sep 27, 2010

I may have been unclear...I though they were saying the only place a person could get qualified is in Oregon.

And I'm talking about Boston, who cares about Worcester?

Burnham · Sep 27, 2010

It is true that the flagship training venue for USFS tree climbers and instructors is indeed in Cottage Grove, OR...at the Dorena Genetic Resource Center. While it used to be Region 6 (Oregon and Washington) in scope, over the last 10 years, since the R6 climbing program was adopted as the model for nation-wide training and certification of FS climbers, the Dorena workshop has assumed national prominence. No other Region can offer the years of experience and the depth of expertise that R6 does.

Of course, you have to assume that all this is due solely to my active participation as instructor and facilitator, technical advisor and regional program manager.

:lol:

Right, Boston...maybe there is a problem getting climbers who want to go THERE!

CurSedVoyce · Sep 27, 2010

As always, great pics of the workshop and the students. Looks like a great experience. :thumbup:

squisher · Sep 27, 2010

Anyone go for a ride rigging out those tops? Just curious if there were rookie rope runners.

Burnham · Sep 27, 2010

Of course they were, Squishie, all of them :lol:

...and a couple did get a bit of a ride, but nothing too bad, really. A pretty good bunch, and of course they got input on how many wraps to take

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squisher · Sep 27, 2010

4 or 5 wraps should do it.

Burnham · Sep 27, 2010

I have been tempted, but so far have resisted that little prank.

Bermy · Sep 27, 2010

Pity I can't see all the pics, my dial-up gives up after about six or seven!
Looks like a lot of fun, and nice to see what others are doing.

woodworkingboy · Sep 27, 2010

Nice photos to see, Burnham. It looks cumbersome for the guys climbing while wearing chaps.

rskybiz · Sep 27, 2010

By the smiles on the faces they had fun :lol:

Blinky · Sep 27, 2010

Training is fun when you get paid for it.

It looks like you've got a sweet gig Mr. Burnham... and results speak for themselves.

sotc · Sep 27, 2010

Does look like a good time Burnham!

I had good luck organizing pics by holding it where you want it for a second before dropping it

top_notch · Sep 27, 2010

Awesome Photos!!! I still need to get my red card and S 212 cert. Its hard just watching my coworkers run saws while I can only swamp for them...I have more experience running saws than most of them too. Not really

just frustrating.

I'm pretty sure I'll get my certs next spring though.

Do you teach S 212, Burnham?

Newfie · Sep 27, 2010

Cool pics Burnham.

Pretty close in the pronunciation too. If you are from around Worcester, it's Wistah. They have wicked accents. :lol:

Old Monkey · Sep 27, 2010

My last "C" cert was in 1999. I probably need a dust up too.

top_notch · Sep 27, 2010

Old Monkey said:
My last "C" cert was in 1999. I probably need a dust up too.

Do you work for the Government? What other "official" reasons would one need the cert, besides the knowledge they instill...just curious.

Old Monkey · Sep 28, 2010

I used to work for the government as a hotshot and as a heli-rappeler. Now I go home at night.

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