An elderly guy and his wife moved in close to my shop from the city, bought a nice log house. They visited me to say hi and he looked at my work and he said, "Now this is what I want to do". I let the compliment pass.... So, after never having worked with his hands (he informed) he gets into cutting firewood, joined some wood gathering association....and comes by every now and then because of problems he has. Sharpening isn't his better forte, but he tries so I don't mind helping him. A big hump to overcome was getting him to understand that you sharpen the cutters and not the rakers. I thought we were passed that, but he came by again two days ago with, "This saw just isn't cutting for me", set it down on the bench and was running his finger across the rakers. Does that qualify as another type of chain? Anyway, I was kind of busy, so sharpened his saw and sent him on his way. Ongoing saga....