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No_Bivy
03-24-2008, 08:26 PM
Interesting job on this one.....In the past two weeks, there have been several times where I have chosen to stay on the crane while under load. This White OAk fell over, lodged against a Poplar and landed on some phone transmission lines. We set up the 4 part block on a 50 ton crane. I tied in to the boom while the crane held the tree. I climbed out and cut limbs from lines. 21k lift.
Wagnaw
03-24-2008, 08:31 PM
Wild pictures John!! When'd you do that? Seems like your jobs have been getting crazier and crazier... good job from the looks of it though. I imagine the tension in that tree was complicated to say the least.
Were you working with both crane balls on that one, or were you just tied into the smaller?
Greenhorn
03-24-2008, 08:32 PM
Does your TIP move around a bit as you unload weight?
No_Bivy
03-24-2008, 08:33 PM
held the load......bombed the rest. I took the Poplar in one piece since in was cracked at the base from the White Oak falling on to it. It weighed in at 3900. Picked a couple other small uprooted trees off the line...........then I hit the EASY button.:D
Skwerl
03-24-2008, 08:37 PM
Wicked cool, John. 8)
No_Bivy
03-24-2008, 08:38 PM
The last few...and the vid of the Poplar lift.
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No_Bivy
03-24-2008, 08:38 PM
Wild pictures John!! When'd you do that? Seems like your jobs have been getting crazier and crazier... good job from the looks of it though. I imagine the tension in that tree was complicated to say the least.
Were you working with both crane balls on that one, or were you just tied into the smaller?
Today...in between white outs...8)
No_Bivy
03-24-2008, 08:41 PM
Does your TIP move around a bit as you unload weight?
I tied into where the jib would attach, ...so no,....the load was lifted by the block, I moved very little. I did not "ride" the load. I am wondering how others stay tied into a crane under load.............
arborworks1
03-24-2008, 08:43 PM
Killer Jobs you have been doing for sure.
Nice looking cranes as well.
Did the phone company contract that work, John?
No_Bivy
03-24-2008, 08:44 PM
Killer Jobs you have been doing for sure.
Nice looking cranes as well.
Did the phone company contract that work, John?
nope.:/:
arborworks1
03-24-2008, 08:52 PM
that is ashame. LOoks like you bailed them out.
Good Job Again.
Was the weather descent today?
brendonv
03-24-2008, 08:53 PM
I dont know how you do it John. These crazy jobs day in and day out. Do you ever sleep? Hope I can hang at your age. :D
No_Bivy
03-24-2008, 08:54 PM
Were you working with both crane balls on that one, or were you just tied into the smaller?
single line first to bomb limbs around the Poplar, then switched to 4 part for the heavy lift of trunk...
No_Bivy
03-24-2008, 08:56 PM
that is ashame. LOoks like you bailed them out.
Good Job Again.
Was the weather descent today?
yep.....late afternoon snow showers.....didn't stick though
No_Bivy
03-24-2008, 08:57 PM
Hope I can hang at your age. :D
what the hell.....like I'm OLD!:O:lol::lol::O
brendonv
03-24-2008, 08:58 PM
what the hell.....like I'm OLD!:O:lol::lol::O
:P
No_Bivy
03-24-2008, 09:01 PM
ahh yes grasshopper...................:drink:
arborworks1
03-24-2008, 09:05 PM
Did you have to haul all the wood from that?
what the hell.....like I'm OLD!:O:lol::lol::O
hahahaha
sweet job there john!
No_Bivy
03-24-2008, 09:33 PM
anyone else ever ride the crane under load........
Am I the only one trying to figure out why a crane was brought in? Looks like everything on the poplar could have bombed out. As for the oak, you are not going to hurt a phone line that big, those things are strong. I probably would have tied it down good and cut everything hanging over the line, then started back towards the base under cutting everything.
Not knocking how you did it, wish we had one to use! I just don't understand the logic in these crane jobs sometimes.
Hollywood
03-24-2008, 09:50 PM
Crane logic: Large machine that does a lot of work.
Safer... easier... faster... etc.
Great job No Bivy!
No_Bivy
03-24-2008, 09:53 PM
nah....crane is much safer and easier. AND they were paying, so why not. I ain't workin' for a line clearance company......It's ME and MY ass on the sharp end. A bucket could not have reached that chaos. :D
besides, once you see the value of a crane on situations like this,...you will never go back. No One gets hurt, Nothing gets broken....my mantra
TreeRhino
03-24-2008, 10:47 PM
What the Z says:
“The arborist shall be detached from the crane any time it is under load tension. EXCEPTION: The person specifically responsible for the work shall only allow the arborist to remain attached to the crane while it is under load when it is determined that all reasonably possible alternative methods are inaccessible and attachment to the subject tree would create a greater safety risk due to its hazardous condition. Possible alternative methods include, but are not limited to:
securing to the tree and detaching from the crane before it comes under load;
use of a second crane;
use of an aerial lift device;
use of an adjacent tree."
MasterBlaster
03-24-2008, 10:48 PM
anyone else ever ride the crane under load........
I've done it a couple times, it always felt odd. I have tied in like you did, to the actual crane, not the ball. Usually for dead trees or trees with no central top.
TreeRhino
03-24-2008, 10:49 PM
That being said, being tied in to the boom saounds like a better idea than being tied in to the ball. Well Done, I'd say.
And yes, crane is much safer, quicker and easier as long as the operator and the climber know what they are doing. A sub-par operator can really ruin your day and I've had more than a few of those.
jim, the poplar was cracked at the base. seems like a good enough reason to me
vharrison
03-25-2008, 06:56 AM
It's ME and MY ass on the sharp end. A bucket could not have reached that chaos. :D
besides, once you see the value of a crane on situations like this,...you will never go back. No One gets hurt, Nothing gets broken....my mantra
:O Wow, it did look like chaos! Great job! :\:
I am sitting here in amazement, great job as always no bivy!
xtremetrees
03-25-2008, 09:24 AM
The poplar tree weighed 3900 lbs!. I would not have guess that it weighted so much. I have never thought of tieing into anything but the ball on a crane. I will store your experience and use it as my own, did you loop runner and crab for a TIP? Certainly dont want to tie into any moving parts. Nice job Ive worked 2 cranes in the last 30 days, a 70 tonne and a 40 tonne. My first cranes in well over 3 years well since Hurricane Ivan in 05
Here is a co-worker almost got whacked!
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Burnham
03-25-2008, 10:16 AM
Per normal for your work, John...first rate. Thanks once again.
No_Bivy
03-25-2008, 07:37 PM
thanks yall...
yo, extreme...where is the hard hat? Dude should climb further out to set straps, to prevent the flip...aka. "Bitch Slap"
TreeRhino
03-25-2008, 09:51 PM
jim, the poplar was cracked at the base. seems like a good enough reason to me
efinately a good reason. Just saying that the Z makes exceptions for situations just like that.
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