View Full Version : Lanyard ascender placement
MasterBlaster
03-07-2008, 07:31 PM
This would drive me crazy! Check out how far from the saddle Reg C secures his ascender, and then see how close I keep mine. That far out you can't cinch up tight and there's too much space between the tree and the climber, IMO.
How do ya'll wear yours? Up close, or out farther?
Skwerl
03-07-2008, 07:36 PM
His gaff pads are set kinda low also. They must hurt being adjusted that short. :(
OTGBOSTON
03-07-2008, 07:36 PM
Gotta be as close as possible for me, and as I stated here before, made of rope!
That being said I'd like to know what that extra strap is and what its rated for. IMO a twisted clevis and a lanyard are like peanutbutterandjelly, rope, gibbs, microscender, or otherwise..
MasterBlaster
03-07-2008, 07:37 PM
Wow, I didn't notice that. Crikey!
His gaff pads are set kinda low also. They must hurt being adjusted that short. :(
Skwerl
03-07-2008, 07:43 PM
Greg, it looks like he's extending it out using a Spectra drawstrap.
http://www.gearexpress.biz/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=G&Product_Code=42224C
http://www.gearexpress.biz/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/spectradogbones.jpg
MasterBlaster
03-07-2008, 07:54 PM
Does anybody else put a sling in the 200's clip like that? I use a clip on my saddle instead.
doggonetrees
03-07-2008, 07:56 PM
Far out has to hurt the back also, IMO.
Greenhorn
03-07-2008, 08:09 PM
What kinda saddle is he wearin?
I'm always trying to tie the "legs" of my distel closer to keep the hitch as close as possible. When I did the gibbs thing I think I put it directly on the D with twisted clevis.
Does keep the tail of his lanyard outta his saw and stuff though.
MasterBlaster
03-07-2008, 08:19 PM
What kinda saddle is he wearin?
It's an interesting saddle, a Kolibbri Multislide.
<img src="http://www.treebuzz.com/forum/download.php?Number=79139">
pete mctree
03-07-2008, 08:35 PM
The sling is put into his system as a "cuttable link" as he's using a wire core strop. It's common and recomended as best practice here in the Uk for rescue. Easy to cut with a silky or knife as opposed to a pair of bolt cutters:\:
rumination
03-07-2008, 08:39 PM
That makes sense. Couldn't you girth hitch the sling directly to the ascender to shorten up the distance? I suppose that would make it a pain to change your lanyard out...
MasterBlaster
03-07-2008, 08:39 PM
I don't see that in your avatar, Pete.
And what are you doing up so late??? :beer:
pete mctree
03-07-2008, 08:51 PM
Yes Leon it could be shortened, I dislike it mysef hence using a vt which is cutable and close to the side D.
pete mctree
03-07-2008, 08:52 PM
As for Sleep- no rest for the wicked I guess :) or maybe the fact that i fell asleep for 3 hours earlier has done my bodyclock in :(
Greenhorn
03-07-2008, 08:55 PM
off topic but I like that saddle, looks tough with big D's
pete mctree
03-07-2008, 09:00 PM
The harnesses are getting quite popular amongst my friends who have climbed on hard seat for years. It's got formed legloops
Stumper
03-07-2008, 09:25 PM
More closerer- both on lanyard adjuster and saw.
OTGBOSTON
03-08-2008, 11:57 AM
Greg, it looks like he's extending it out using a Spectra drawstrap.
http://www.gearexpress.biz/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=G&Product_Code=42224C
http://www.gearexpress.biz/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/spectradogbones.jpg
Thanks, I've been looking for some that are rated 23kn pretty sure they don't exist. I use them to lower the batton on my d-fly, hopefully they'll change the z to include all the fun 22kn stuff.......
Frans
03-08-2008, 12:53 PM
I would worry about cutting that spectra link accidently.
pete mctree
03-08-2008, 04:35 PM
If you use a rope lanyard then the spectra or dynema slings are harder to cut with a silky than rope. With a saw it's irelevant I guess
I can't see when you would ever cut that close to a lanyard Frans?
MasterBlaster
03-08-2008, 06:49 PM
The key word there is "accidental."
BostonBull
03-08-2008, 07:03 PM
Does anybody else put a sling in the 200's clip like that? I use a clip on my saddle instead.
I use a Stihl lanyard, the one with the ring.
MasterBlaster
03-08-2008, 07:22 PM
Isn't that redundant, a ring in a ring?
TheTreeSpyder
03-08-2008, 07:35 PM
Old pic, i keep mine closer than this now with a shorter hitch, tended through and mounted too the Right sideD. The longer the bridge to the adjuster the more you have to pull forward/away from you for less slack after adjusting. A long bridge, and pulling to the side; leaves a lot of slack when you are done and it takes your weight i think.
http://www.mytreelessons.com/user/Chord%20Tending%20on%20Lanyard.jpg
BostonBull
03-08-2008, 08:32 PM
Isn't that redundant, a ring in a ring?
say what? :\:
MasterBlaster
03-08-2008, 08:43 PM
Isn't that redundant, a ring in a ring?
What part of that do you not understand?
BostonBull
03-09-2008, 10:35 AM
What part of that do you not understand?
I understand it, but where did it come from? Did I miss it, or did someone change someones post?
Frans
03-09-2008, 11:15 AM
I can't see when you would ever cut that close to a lanyard Frans?
I cant either :lol: But ya never know. Just the thought of such a little bitty strap makes me nervous. Maybe I am just primitive
MasterBlaster
03-09-2008, 12:14 PM
I understand it, but where did it come from? Did I miss it, or did someone change someones post?
I use a Stihl lanyard, the one with the ring.
From that. The 200 has a built in "ring," why add another ring? :?
Mr. Sir
03-09-2008, 12:21 PM
I never liked that little folding ring on the 200t, so I just attached a short loop runner and a biner to it.
MasterBlaster
03-09-2008, 12:25 PM
Really? I love the hell outta it, I just clip it to my 'lil keychain thingamabob and I'm good 2 geaux!
Mr. Sir
03-09-2008, 12:38 PM
That clip sometimes closes and it's a PITA to open with gloves on.
MasterBlaster
03-09-2008, 12:48 PM
In that case I would force it to stay in the open position. I guess I've never noticed that cuz I always have my thumb and forefinger cut outta my gloves. We just don't get that cold here.
Skwerl
03-09-2008, 12:57 PM
I never liked that tiny ring on the back of the 200T either. Too small and tucked away to easily clip on my saddle with one hand. Before the 200T, I used an Echo 3400 for a climbing saw and used a short strap girth hitched on the rear handle. When I started using the 200T, I did the same thing. It's kind of in the way sometimes but it's better than having to use 2 hands to hang up my saw every time.
You can see the strap on the handle in this picture.
BostonBull
03-09-2008, 03:21 PM
From that. The 200 has a built in "ring," why add another ring? :?
Ahh ok I see.
Try to follow along ;)........I use the Stihl Lanyard to attach my 200T to my bent gate biner. Stihl offers TWO lanyards, one with a snap and one with a RING. I prefer the one with the RING over the one with the snap.
I slightly see the confusion, but I think old age played a part in it too........:P
No_Bivy
03-09-2008, 03:35 PM
Hey Brian, That is a huge start handle on the 394
inztrees
03-09-2008, 07:36 PM
I 2 use a ring its c antg miszs the big hole
Bounce
03-10-2008, 03:29 PM
Shorter & closer = better for my flipline. I like the idea of a link you can cut in an emergency though. However it would sure be a major pita the rest of the time.
I use the same chainsaw lanyard for my 200T. I like it 'cause it lets me drop the saw if I have to have both hands free to handle a piece and can dangle my saw in 2 positions: either just below my feet or right at my hip.
pigwot
03-18-2008, 06:45 PM
A few climbers in this area have over the years used a short loop of light line as a "cuttable link" in certain situations. For example if you're wrecking out a tree that is of questionable integrity whilst you are hanging out of another tree or two nearby. If the tree starts failing while you're on it, it is easier to slice through the light line and not be dragged down with it.
This all started when we were hired to cull the trees that were a hazard in a forest with horse trails throughout. I was working for a friend at that time. He was topping out large branches in a 100+ foot tree before dropping the pole. He was using a wire-core lanyard which he had placed below the branch he was removing, made his undercut, and before he could even start the back cut the branch tore loose. Turns out the twist of the grain was such that the fibers at his undercut (about two feet out on the 22" diameter branch) twisted around in just two feet of distance and were the holding fibers at the top, right next to the trunk. As it ripped free the upper fibers ran down the stem about 10 feet, pulling him into the stub. He was sore for about two weeks with a lot of abdominal bruising. Ever since he will only use a lanyard if it has a cuttable link.
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