Before and after

[treetx]

Mmmm, I miss good tree work ?:D

[Paul B]

damn, thats ugly. :( poor tree.

[Newfie]

Good job shaping that tree.:?

[Greenhorn]

I could sense you've been missing it in your last posts...

[MasterBlaster]

That tree will live forever!

[sotc]

instigator:D ive seen that pic before. germany?

[brendonv]

instigator:D ive seen that pic before. germany?

Ditto. Looks like sh_t.

[gf beranek]

Step one, or the before shot, is the first step in topworking apples to change variety. Done it to hundreds of trees in private orchards. In commercial operations by the hundreds of acres.

The quality and long lastingness of the topworking in orchards comes only from the well thoughtout crown shape left by the cuts. Leaving each stem opportunity to receive as much light as the other. AKA a natural canopy. Next, cleft graft on the new variety by brutal spliting of each stems after the cut. Install two to three scions. Seal with bees wax. Go to the next. Chop, chop.

The reconstruction results in a brandnew natural spread canopy, with the new variety occupying the new fruit bearing outer-structure-canopy. Much the same thought process goes into crown restoration in older trees that have been pollarded. Hack, hack. Properly done it can be developed into a regular maintaince program for the older tee and can spring new vigor into older trees.

Of course of what works in agricultrue and our orchards is often seen as hack practice in arborculture. As so, for those who have never grafted and topworked fruit trees will see it only one way.

The tree in illustration is young and vigorous and quite capable of successfully healing the cuts and fairing out into a tree of good form years down the road. It maybe set back, but it's not hurt. And the resulting shape is not ugly. Years down the road most people would never know the difference.

[TC3]

A Willow tree ?
Pic looks to be taken next to a freeway, and the access to it looks like it was difficult at best. No power lines around means it was not for line clearance. The staged brush pile has me wondering, too ?
C'mon, Nate !?! Give us s'more details about this tree ? Was it an experiment or college course study ?
Y'got me so curious !!!
P.S. Is there a "before-before" pic >>> what the tree originally looked like ?

[sotc]

lime tree if i remember correctly

[OTGBOSTON]

lime tree if i remember correctly

and lime is the same as linden, right? But a linden is the same as a basswood........right?:|:

[treetx]

Sorry for the trolling post. This one is a willow. I have a picture of the same thing where I butchered a lime (linden) at the state archive in Muncih.

That tree is there now and will be around long after I am not.

Still, I don't miss having to do that type of work.

[OTGBOSTON]

Sorry for the trolling post. This one is a willow. I have a picture of the same thing where I butchered a lime (linden) at the state archive in Muncih.

That tree is there now and will be around long after I am not.

Still, I don't miss having to do that type of work.

Funny you say that...

I have an aging population of silver linden in the streets of Boston. This post actually made me consider this as an alternative to removal for a couple of trees.:D thanks!

[squisher]

Heh that's future income right there! Topping err I mean pollarding is good revenue.:D

[OTGBOSTON]

Heh that's future income right there! Topping err I mean pollarding is good revenue.:D


In a city where we can't take down the crappy 50yo Norway Maples fast enough, a big silver linden is worth holding onto.

[TC3]

This one is a willow.
I gotta be careful not to break my arm... patting myself on the back & all !
:lol:

[squisher]

Heh I'm poking a little fun but seriously sometimes a nice tree in the wrong spot it's an alternative to removal as long as all of the risk are identified and a plan for long term maintenance is put into place. Where's the harm if it's that or death?

[TC3]

Are you speaking English ?!?
(snickering)
jk

[OTGBOSTON]

Heh I'm poking a little fun but seriously sometimes a nice tree in the wrong spot it's an alternative to removal as long as all of the risk are identified and a plan for long term maintenance is put into place. Where's the harm if it's that or death?


Seriously,

thats where a sub like you ends and my job begins.:)

[BostonBull]

Funny you say that...

I have an aging population of silver linden in the streets of Boston. This post actually made me consider this as an alternative to removal for a couple of trees.:D thanks!


you wouldnt!

I bet youd have TD though................

speaking of, where is he? SuperDAD!?

[squisher]

Whatever that's supposed to mean. I guess you live in a city where you spend probably millions to grow trees. I live in a valley where we spend millions to cut down trees.

So you as as a city arborist can say you'd consider doing that to a tree, and it's a edumacated decision.

But I as a lowly sub can say that and it's what a joke?

Maybe I'm missing something here.

[gf beranek]

Topwork it.

[TC3]

Whatever that's supposed to mean...But I as a lowly sub can say that and it's what a joke?

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[squisher]

Don't encourage me Theresa!

As usual I'm probably missing something, I hope.:|:

[OTGBOSTON]

So you as as a city arborist can say you'd consider doing that to a tree, and it's a edumacated decision.

.


I think we were both missing something..but I am sober now sooooooo

here are a few examples of trees I have "reduced" in the name of preservation

[MasterBlaster]

They look good to me!

[sotc]

my first job today is crown reduction. young trees so shouldnt be brutal

[squisher]

Not completely unlike me to misinterpret and overreact.

So sorry for getting my back up over nothing, it was uncalled for.

[OTGBOSTON]

Not completely unlike me to be a wise ass ;)

here are some more, before and after, then in full leaf. Of course it goes without saying that these are extreme circumstances, I don't prune every tree like this!

[squisher]

Alot of people cut weeping willows back severely around here. I have two in my yard that were cut back by the previous owner to 5/6' stumps and they're beautiful trees now probably close to 40' again. You can kind of see them in the background of my chevy. they're growing up from a lower level or grade so are actually quite abit taller than the pic looks. Not the best pic.

That was what I was trying to say imo hard pruning like in your pics is better than the alternative, of complete removal. Of course it's not ideal for the tree but depending on the situation/targets trees liking weeping willow are known around here for growing really big and shedding limbs and respond quite well to either hard pruning or pollarding.

[OTGBOSTON]

Agree 100%

[squisher]

Agree 100%

Aww c'mon that's no fun.:D

:lol:

[lumberjack]

...As usual I'm probably missing something...

You are starting to realize you're Canadian, eh?

[squisher]

You're late to the party Carl, I've already been an ass and apologized. Don't make me do it again.:D

[lumberjack]

It's never to late for a canukle joke!

:P

[sotc]

heres my siberian elm i pruned back hard about 4 years ago

[xtremetrees]

Is that a cobra cable I see? I installed 3 of them today, great stuff!

[sotc]

it tis, and a bolt

[treelooker]

PRuning looks effective, nice to have those after pics. When you are 90 and retiring you can look back on success.

? With an open crack, what is the purpose of dynamic over static?

[sotc]

siberian elm tends to decay fairly quick. decided to go non invasive for that reason. i did take some more weight off 2 years later as the cables were taut after leaf drop