Steel Toe VS Composite Toe

[MasterBlaster]

This is kinda interesting. It shows the difference between the two, and it appears the steel toe is the winner.

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[wiley_p]

Now hang on, was the chain sharpened after cutting the composite cap?

[squisher]

Would it have needed to be? :O

[sotc]

i thought composit (and steel) toe were designed for crush protection, not cut protection. i just wear leather and try to not dog into my feet :D

[Paul B]

they arent designed for cut protection if I remember right, I have huskevarnna boots with the chainsaw stuff in'em. worn them once, usually I have steel toe, and low ones at that, just like ankle high hikers.

[MasterBlaster]

At least they don't look gay!

[Old Monkey]

Don't mess with Paul's Power Ranger boots.


Hey Paul any word on getting me the Pink Ranger's phone number?

[JonnyHart]

Cool. I like my steel toe Redwings, though they are awfully heavy.

[Paul B]

Darin, I dont have it but I could call the WCB guy and probably get it!
I didnt even show you fellas the spikey metal things that go in the soles for superstar traction!

[Burnham]

Don't be dissin' those Husky boots, now. They are real popular with my thinning crews, and they are a real good product. Caulk soles, waterproof, chainsaw cut resistant, and relatively affordable if memory serves me right. They are not considered gay out here in the PNW a'tall.

[GASoline71]

Darin, I dont have it but I could call the WCB guy and probably get it!
I didnt even show you fellas the spikey metal things that go in the soles for superstar traction!


Don't be dissin'n those Husky boots, now. They are real popular with my thinning crews, and they are a real good product. Caulk soles, waterproof, chainsaw cut resistant, and relatively affordable if memory serves me right. They are not considered gay out here in the PNW a'tall.

However Burnham... it appears our PNW bretheren to the North speak a different language... :lol: :lol:

Gary

[Thor's Hammer]

:D:D

[Paul B]

Gary, I was hesitant to use the term caulk so closely following MB's post regarding sexuality. ;)

[GASoline71]

Gary, I was hesitant to use the term caulk so closely following MB's post regarding sexuality. ;)

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Gary

[gf beranek]

A steel toe would have saved me a lot of grief.

[MasterBlaster]

I bet. :(

[Burnham]

A steel toe would have saved me a lot of grief.

Do you really think so, Jerry? I've heard of a least a couple of stories where the load on a steel toe boot was sufficient to compress it into the poor sucker's foot, ending up with the same sort of damage you experienced, only right then and there, i.e. amputation of toes.

Not for me to question, you'd know better than anyone.

[Burnham]

However Burnham... it appears our PNW bretheren to the North speak a different language... :lol: :lol:

Gary

Urban Canadian...what do you expect? :lol:

[squisher]

Gary, I was hesitant to use the term caulk so closely following MB's post regarding sexuality. ;)

Which is why I stayed out of the "orange caulk rubbers" conversation up to this point too.:D

[Skwerl]

Urban Canadian...what do you expect? :lol:

GDC's!!! :lol:

[Burnham]

Worse, Skwerlie...GDUC!

[gf beranek]

I did a lot of research and web surfin to find case scenarios on work place injuries to the feet. There's a lot out there to compare to. A couple cases were identical to mine. Workers undoing load binders and the operator setting the outriggers down. Ouch!

I never found a case where a worker was incidently injuried as a result of steel toe boots. Just the opposite actually.

Myth Busters did a segment about steel toe boots and they, the boots, held up to everything that was dished out.

before the accident I was under the impression that a crush injury could be worsened by wearing steel toes, but now I see it differently.

[Burnham]

Thanks for the information, Jerry...Myth Busters, hey? I guess that was just an old wive's tale then.

[squisher]

Yah this is interesting info, I too have always labored under the mis-impression that steel toes would/could be worse in a severe crushing injury. But I've always wondered about that too. I hate to admit it but I rarely used safety-toes while in the bush, just for the weight. I like my all leather Vib's with no safety toe. I know bad, bad, bad.:(

[Burnham]

Yah this is interesting info, I too have always labored under the mis-impression that steel toes would/could be worse in a severe crushing injury. But I've always wondered about that too. I hate to admit it but I rarely used safety-toes while in the bush, just for the weight. I like my all leather Vib's with no safety toe. I know bad, bad, bad.:(

I don't think so, Squish. No way would I wear steel toes in the bush (we call it the brush down here :) ). Heavy, cold...not me, thanks.

BTW, can you even get steel toe corks?

[Skwerl]

No way would I wear steel toes in the bush (we call it the brush down here :) ).

..and he shoots! He scores! a three pointer from mid court! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[gf beranek]

One case, in a Navy yard, a contract worker had his foot pinned under the out rigger of an 80 ton crane. His buddy ran around to tell the operater. The fellow was under the pad for about a minute and only a slight bruise was the result.

That was one of the happier case scenarios I found. After reading that I got to thinking more about it, an 80 ton crane. Gee my foot was under the pad of only a 15 ton. I could of stood there and whistled Dixie and pick my nose if I wanted. Steel toe must work.

[squisher]

I don't think so, Squish. No way would I wear steel toes in the bush (we call it the brush down here :) ). Heavy, cold...not me, thanks.

BTW, can you even get steel toe corks?

I'm not sure about steel toe corks, I beleive that in B.C. you can only get composite safety toe boots, I'm not 100% sure but I think that's all that's WCB aproved here.


Yah this is interesting info, I too have always labored under the mis-impression that steel toes would/could be worse in a severe crushing injury. But I've always wondered about that too. I hate to admit it but I rarely used safety-toes while in the bush, just for the weight. I like my all leather Vib's with no safety toe. I know bad, bad, bad.:(

I was referring to not wearing safety toes of any sort in the bush composite or steel. None of my full-leathers had safety toes, but a few pairs of my half and halfs did I think?

Oh yah and you call it 'the brush' working in the woods? Weird, it's the bush man, the bush spread the word.

[Paul B]

hm, those fancy orange boots are composite toe cap, weird since they are supposed to be for chainsaw protection, I had to call my dealer and ask him and he figures more guys are concerned about not having steel toes in the gumboots for warmth. I always wear my work boots that are steel toed, have done since I began working, never found cold toes from the steel toe to be an issue.

[MasterBlaster]

Trust me, for most people they get cold.

[Burnham]

hm, those fancy orange boots are composite toe cap, weird since they are supposed to be for chainsaw protection, I had to call my dealer and ask him and he figures more guys are concerned about not having steel toes in the gumboots for warmth. I always wear my work boots that are steel toed, have done since I began working, never found cold toes from the steel toe to be an issue.

Don't they have fabric layers like chaps, Paul? In the foot and leg?

[Paul B]

to each their own! :)

edit:
Burn, yes, over the top of the foot there is a patch that has either ballistic nylon or kevlar stuff in to attempt to jam the saw before it gets to the tootsies. You can see it in the picture previously in this thread. Another note, when wearing fallers pants just TRY to get them in those boots, and wearing them on the outside, well, thast just not done. :shifty:

[No_Bivy]

Don't mess with Paul's Power Ranger boots.


Hey Paul any word on getting me the Pink Ranger's phone number?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Paul B]

my PPE mentor:
http://www.husqvarna.ca/files/cs/products/portals/clothes_tools_200x240.jpg

[No_Bivy]

he won't get shot during deer season ...thats fo' sure!

[Paul B]

make him in charge of clearing the trail :D and butchering. at least the big cuts, maybe not the filets...

[Jonseredbred]

My feet used to freeze in those "gay" boots. Never felt comfortable in them. I gave them to one of my groundmen, he mentioned something about adding sparkles to them and dancing in them.

[sotc]

Oh yah and you call it 'the brush' working in the woods? Weird, it's the bush man, the bush spread the word.
we call something else the bush down here and steel toes are definatly not allowed!

[sawinredneck]

I HATE steel toe boots!!!!!!! I just flat LOATHE MY WORK BOOTS!!!! You want heavy? Yeah, come to my world:lol:

Yes, steel toes get cold!!!

Myth busters or not, I have personly worked with not one, but TWO guys that have had steel toe boots crush/amputate their toes!! Might have been an older ANSI standard, but it's not a wives tale, I promise!!!!

[MasterBlaster]

Myth busters or not, I have personly worked with not one, but TWO guys that have had steel toe boots crush/amputate their toes!!


Pics, or it didn't happen. :drink:

:P

[sawinredneck]

Man!!!! I wasn't even working there when it happened, both were older guys. I can't remeber the one guys name, but can't forget the others name!!!
If you really want, I will look up his phone number and PM it to you! I am that for real about this one!

[Stumper]

I used to hate steel toed boots.....until I started buying boots that fit properly. Now they don't bother me, don't wear my socks out and don't seem cold.

[DTW902]

I HATE steel toe boots!!!!!!! I just flat LOATHE MY WORK BOOTS!!!! You want heavy? Yeah, come to my world:lol:

Yes, steel toes get cold!!!

Myth busters or not, I have personly worked with not one, but TWO guys that have had steel toe boots crush/amputate their toes!! Might have been an older ANSI standard, but it's not a wives tale, I promise!!!!

You don't have to convince me, I know what your prefered choice in the shoe department is....:P
But I can say first hand steel toe boots would have saved you some greif. In fact any boot would have helped....:P

[sawinredneck]

I was fine once the pain went away:lol:

[DTW902]

Sorry couldn't help but laugh....:big-rolling:

[sawinredneck]

I know, I had that coming.

[GASoline71]

I've always hated wearing steel toes for the cold too... :(

So none of my work boots... caulks or not... do not have steel toes.

Now on the flip side... When I was working on the flight deck on a US Navy aircraft carrier... the temperature of the steel deck was anywhere between 120-140 degrees. There were reports of guys getting heat blisters around their toes from the steel in their boots. Never happened to me... but I can tell ya, if you stand in one spot for about 30 seconds on a 130 degree steel deck... your feet get HOT!

Gary

[Frans]

are the instances of toes being crushed with steel toes from the metal plates used to cover holes in the street?

That is how I heard of it. Seems kind of hard to imagine a steel toe being crushed in tree work unless it is a out rigger or something

[MasterBlaster]

are the instances of toes being crushed with steel toes from the metal plates used to cover holes in the street?

Maybe if they were dropped from twenty feet.

[Tom_Scheller]

It seems that any force that can crush a steel toe would leave your toes mangled and inoperable anyway, right?

I dislike having to choose one or the other. I hate Frankenstein boots in a tree unless I'm on spikes, but I don't like wearing flimsy hiking boots on the ground.

TS

[lumberjack]

I would suppose the end result of weight on steel toes would depend on where the weight hit the cap. Hitting the bow of the cap would be the strongest, the rear of the cap over the last knuckles of the toes would be the weakest.

I saw the impression where a 10klb forklift (lift capacity) drove over a dock workers foot (how'd he not notice that?) and smushed the cap down to the contrete, leaving the aformentioned impression. The dude couldn't take off his boot, but he wasn't hurt either.