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Bounce
01-02-2008, 07:45 PM
I find myself getting caught up in the mundane trivial details lately and am having a hard time keeping my perspective. Maybe it's just the winter blues (haven't had a sunny day around here since about Sept) but it seems like this happens every year at this time. I guess sometimes I forget why I'm in this business and this is not good. In order to help put things back to rights, I've come up with a list of reasons why I love my job. Help me out - tell my why you guys do what you do. Here's mine-
-I get paid to climb, which I'd probably be being doing even if nobody paid me for it. It's a rare person these days that gets paid for what they'd actually rather be doing.
-The view. Need I say more?
-The challenge, both mental and physical. Anybody can work hard, but it takes something more to give the kind of concentration and focus this job requires even at the end of a grueling 12 hour day.
Ok, your turn
Skwerl
01-02-2008, 07:53 PM
I love working outdoors. I love taking care of these beautiful giants amongst us. I love being willing and able to safely remove these giants when they need to come down. And I love being totally and completely in charge of my own destiny without having to answer to any 'boss' like most employed people.
Also, check the quote in my signature line. :)
brendonv
01-02-2008, 08:02 PM
I enjoy being at a different location everyday.
I enjoy the workout/feeling of hard work.
I enjoy standing back and being able to tell the difference, weather a removal or prune job.
I enjoy what the tree has to offer us, weather lumber, heat, oxygen, $$ :) .
I enjoy the gear I get to play with while working. :)
There's more, but my eyes are getting heavy.
Blinky
01-02-2008, 08:09 PM
I love the smell of bar oil in the morning.
Seriously, the reasons already given and...
I like being an old man doing young men's work,
My kids think it's cool,
I need a good scare every now and then to feel alive,
I don't feel like an Irish potato in a necktie,
I like meeting and talking with customers about trees,
I like carabiners,
I'm unemployable,
and just to re-state one, I get paid to do what I truly love to do.
The Branch Doctor's quote says it all really.
No_Bivy
01-02-2008, 08:12 PM
I like carabiners,
mee too:O
countryboypa31
01-02-2008, 10:03 PM
Yeah i agree i love my job as well, Can't beat getting payed for what you absolutely love to do! I don't know anyone that loves going to work, or has as much fun at work as i do!
Skwerl
01-02-2008, 10:06 PM
Cool! Welcome to the Treehouse, countryboy. :D
Paul B
01-02-2008, 10:59 PM
welcome countryboy.
I like what I do for a living too. that means a lot to me. Can't imagine having to punch a clock and work in an office allday, no thanks!
The Branch Doctor
01-02-2008, 11:43 PM
Now this is my kind of thread.:D
For me it's simple... I am a climber. Not just as my job but as a lifestyle, which is probably why I'm single.:lol:
But seriously, climbing defines me. It takes a special kind of person to be a professional tree climber. It's not a profession for the weak or the meek. I love the fact that VERY few people can or would do what I do. I suppose one could accuse me of being an adrenaline junkie and my job more than suffices that hunger.
And hell yeah I love carabiners! What red blooded climber doesn't?;)
Paul B
01-02-2008, 11:50 PM
I love carabiners and climbing stuff. just got to get the climbing things higher than 20 feet into my system. :D
or just keep landscaping (planting trees for you tree guys to prune in 15 or more years), maybe thats the deal...
Hobby Climber
01-03-2008, 12:26 AM
I fell into tree work, climbing, by accident. Did a storm damage tree for my folks and my passion for it just took off from there. Tree work just made sense to me & I love doing it. Job satisfaction...hell ya!
HC
treetx
01-03-2008, 05:27 AM
But seriously, climbing defines me. It takes a special kind of person to be a professional tree climber. It's not a profession for the weak or the meek. I love the fact that VERY few people can or would do what I do.
That is a lot of what I miss about the job. Yeah, I do it on the side now and also do the climbing competition, but it is just different when you know longer earn your oats through climbing.
Simply put, I got priced out of the job. Now I have had to change how I define myself. Chasing a paycheck doesn't make that very clear at times. But stability does and adrenaline......well, there are other rushes out there.....spin on a snowboard, flying, yeah, I still get my fill.
I miss hurting trees though :roll: I miss work here in Germany. Days where I knew this tree has survived 2 world wars and a holocaust, but today I'm coming :O ..........
Bounce
01-03-2008, 10:33 AM
I got into this business as a way to pay my way through college. Now that I'm out of school, I find that I'd rather being doing this than what I went to school for. It's funny how the most important lessons are never the ones you set out to learn.
Greenhorn
01-03-2008, 10:56 AM
I got into it because it payed more than landscape stuff, then discovered its addictive.
The clarity while climbing, physical workout, and daily sense of accomplishment. Watching the chipper work and the MS200 are also high points of the job.
The Texas heat can really take the fun outta climbing in a hurry though.
countryboypa31
01-03-2008, 02:00 PM
Thanks for the welcomes.
I worked landscaping for 2+ a little, years and We had a guy subed to remove some tree at the mall we maintaned. When i saw him climb the removals, and helped him with roping, i was hooked. I called him and asked if he needed anyone, I started Jan 2 two years ago, I won't be looking back. Couldn't ask for a job better suited for me. There would have to be a VERY big price tag on the job that took me away from climbing.
OTGBOSTON
01-03-2008, 03:00 PM
Simply put, I got priced out of the job. Now I have had to change how I define myself.
..
I hear that loud and clear.
If it is any consolation it does get better with time. My "identity crisis" happened about two years into my current job as the City Arborist for the City of Boston (been here five now). I still miss being a full time climber, but I do the comps and rec climbs all the time to keep the jones off.
I still love what I do and wouldn't change it for anything, but you are right, climbing is a special kind of lifestyle.
Bounce
01-03-2008, 05:53 PM
OTG - Dude, you are the city arborist for Boston?!?! That's freakin' awesome! If the competition for the job was anything like little ol' Bellingham here in WA, you must be one well qualified arborist!
treelooker
01-03-2008, 06:03 PM
I got into it for the love of climbing and the love of trees. Now climbing is pretty much a bore most of the time, but the love of caring for the trees has intensified. I'll climb as long as I am alive, but it no longer defines me, thank goodness. 5.5 hours today rigging down 2 big oaks. Bo-ring. There is so much more to arboriculture!:D
O and I had to swap out a snap on my scare strap for a carabiner when i took my ctw test. I hate carabiners, and bar oil, but I intensely love caring for trees.
Jonseredbred
01-03-2008, 06:23 PM
I need a good scare every now and then to feel alive,
:thumbup: That is so true.
sawinredneck
01-03-2008, 06:29 PM
I have a tool fetish. I love being outside and I find climbing a tree or running a saw peacful and relaxing, as hard as that is to understand.
I used to free climb, but after my son was born my wife got paranoid about that, and thanks to help of this group I am now set up well enough for what I do, and to do it safely, which means more tools:D
I have a tool fetish!!!!
And:
I LOVE CHAINSAWS!!!!!:lol:
OTGBOSTON
01-03-2008, 06:44 PM
OTG - Dude, you are the city arborist for Boston?!?! That's freakin' awesome! If the competition for the job was anything like little ol' Bellingham here in WA, you must be one well qualified arborist!
Sometimes I have to pinch myself:)
I hear what you are saying about having the winter blues, they get me every year!
JonnyHart
01-03-2008, 06:56 PM
I like the problem solving of removing hazards that can potentially cause tens of thousands of dollars in property damage.
I like the look on the faces of spectators that have never seen a good climber and crew in action.
I like the money.
Like many others said, I like cool tools, the thrill, the occasional scare.
I hated being on unemployment and food stamps every winter, so last May I took a job at a plant that pays well, but I hate it. I'd much rather be doing tree work March through November, but DuPont won't employ me just December through February.
So I'm a part timer now. :(
doggonetrees
01-03-2008, 09:52 PM
I got into tree work from the ground up, so to speak. Have a tree farm with new generation pines in the state set aside program that has been in the family since the early 50's- of course, a lot of thinning and replanting has happened since that was started. Worked construction, and finally ended up working for a rural power company on the right-of-way. Got certified to climb and found true love. Good warm feeling when you get to remove someones potential problem trees/ limbs and they come out and thank you. Granted, that did have it's down sides- such as ROW clearence. Started my own business before 9-11 and haven't been able to dedicate my full attention to the best job I have ever had due to still being activated. Just getting up in the trees next to the sky is like my own little touch of Heaven. And playing with all the neat new toys are fun too.:D
vharrison
01-04-2008, 08:20 AM
It takes a special kind of person to be a professional tree climber.
Bounce, great thread. I have long believed climbers are a very special kind of person. I am honored to read of your adventures and be a part of your world. Thanks!
Blinky
01-04-2008, 08:53 AM
[...]
I hate carabiners, and bar oil, but I intensely love caring for trees.
Don't be a hater. :)
OTGBOSTON
01-04-2008, 02:45 PM
Bounce, great thread. I have long believed climbers are a very special kind of person. I am honored to read of your adventures and be a part of your world. Thanks!
BUT.........No winter blues for you guys down there!;)
Bounce
01-04-2008, 03:01 PM
It sure does take a special kind of person to be a climber. Short-bus special.:|:
When I was a ski racer, my coach always used to say, "The question isn't whether or not you are crazy. The question is, are you crazy enough?"
The Branch Doctor
01-04-2008, 03:08 PM
I like ridding the short bus.:D
And as far as the winter blues goes... thats what my snowplow and snowmobile are for.
Tom_Scheller
01-04-2008, 03:35 PM
Short bus and a helmet...
...Lord forgive me for that.
OTG when does the equipment truck leave Yawkey Way?
TS
Stumper
01-05-2008, 02:32 PM
It is so much more interesting than being a spy and a trauma surgeon.
IchWarriorMkII
01-05-2008, 03:38 PM
I dream of having the courage to climb a tree and work it down. The pictures posted here are AWESOME. Makes me feel so small climbing 20' to hook up someone's phone.
But there is a rush when I come down, makes me want to do it over and over again.
First job was at the Stihl dealer, worked there 5 years, mechanic most of the time. Didn't make hardly any money at all and no benefits. Found out about the utility hiring for right of way guys. I talked to one of the supervisors that work there a few times, i worked on the saws they used
(still do but at home now :D ). Figured I would give it a go. Been doing it for 2.5 years now and enjoy it quite alot.
treelooker
01-05-2008, 04:33 PM
Don't be a hater. :) OK then, I like locking snaps and a sharp blade on a handsaw.
Climbing is fun and all but you better have a backup plan cuz the bod wears out.
57 and a lil tard. :whine:
climber kev the
01-05-2008, 04:41 PM
hello every one new to the site enjoying it thanks
climber kev the
01-05-2008, 04:42 PM
just sharpened my silkey shuigo waiting for it to bit me still
squisher
01-05-2008, 04:46 PM
Welcome! Maybe throw a post in here http://www.gypoclimber.com/showthread.php?t=4564 :thumbup:
MasterBlaster
01-05-2008, 04:47 PM
Welcome to the TreeHouse, Kevin. :beer:
I didn't know Silkys could be resharpened.
Blinky
01-05-2008, 07:09 PM
just sharpened my silkey shuigo waiting for it to bit me still
Welcome Kevin... I dare you to not let it cut you or your rope... I dare you. :P
Stumper
01-05-2008, 07:50 PM
OK
57 and a lil tard. :whine:
Guy, We all know you are a li'l 'tard but we love you anyway.
No_Bivy
01-05-2008, 08:16 PM
Guy, We all know you are a li'l 'tard but we love you anyway.
:lol:"li'l :/:tard" :lol:
Bodean
01-05-2008, 10:25 PM
I've always needed a rush to hold my interest for very long.
Climbing just worked well with a botany schoolin.
I love it.
The Branch Doctor
01-05-2008, 10:28 PM
I bet you like carabiners too.:D
Old Monkey
01-05-2008, 10:38 PM
I've always needed a rush to hold my interest for very long.
Climbing just worked well with a botany schoolin.
I love it.
Now let me start by saying... Good for you son!
It's always good to see young people taking an interest in danger.
Now a lot of people are going to be telling you you're crazy,
and maybe they're right. But the fact of the matter is:
Bones heal. Chicks dig scars. And the United States of America
has the best doctor-to-daredevil(treeclimber) ratio in the world!
The Branch Doctor
01-05-2008, 10:52 PM
Hell yeah Monkey, tell it like it is.:thumbup:
Blinky
01-06-2008, 11:09 AM
Darin, I just stole your post for a quote on my new website... I credited it to Haley's Dad and all.... Stole one of yours too Branch Doc.
Blinky
01-06-2008, 11:14 AM
Guy, We all know you are a li'l 'tard but we love you anyway.
:lol:"li'l :/:tard" :lol:
:lol: :whine:
You guys have no idea how much I want in on this... but he IS one of my employers and all. :/:
Old Monkey
01-06-2008, 11:17 AM
Darin, I just stole your post for a quote on my new website... I credited it to Haley's Dad and all.... Stole one of yours too Branch Doc.
Just so you know that's a quote from the Simpsons and not my own creation.
Blinky
01-06-2008, 11:38 AM
Just so you know that's a quote from the Simpsons and not my own creation.
Crap... I wasn't too worried about violating your copyrights... but Mat Groening has a whole mess of lawyers. :what:
squisher
01-06-2008, 11:40 AM
If they(lawyers) come after you, you can always just turn them on to Darin. Afterall you only quoted him.:D
OTGBOSTON
01-07-2008, 07:53 AM
Short bus and a helmet...
...Lord forgive me for that.
OTG when does the equipment truck leave Yawkey Way?
TS
Around the same time the Patriots win the Super Bowl;)
oldirty
02-15-2008, 07:34 PM
Around the same time the Patriots win the Super Bowl;)
well brother looks like this one didnt happen but the boys did make it down to sunny florida.
what i like about what i do.
well for a guy like me the moments of intense concentration sandwiched between laughs and changes of scenery are just what i need.
hard work feels good.
and knowing i can do things that not many others can do. and i do it daily.
but most important is having pride in what you do. i am proud of my effort and the result from it.
i also love the humility that will find you in a heartbeat if you try to get out ahead of yourself. fear is a great motivator.
xtremetrees
02-16-2008, 07:41 AM
The big picture for me is what I've left behind. I dont remeber alot of stumps I've left behind but a few in particular difficult removal jobs I remember. Mostly its the trees left standing.Taking photos is certainly in the large scheme of things. Its my small contribution back to the forest that has been so forgiving to me.
Initially, I saw an ad, a photo of a tree worker rappelling out of a tree and decided that looks like what I'd like to do. I didnt fully realized all the courage it would take over the years to stay in the trees. Ultimately it is the courage thru fear that keeps me in the trees.
Over time I am finding that trees are leading me back to people, I initially climbed to the top of trees to get away from people. What I mean is that trees have been so forgiving to me that I have learned from them to be more forgiving of people. We are all different but we are all the same.
Trees continually challenge not only my beliefs about humanity but also my ethical treatment of both trees and people. I could never have a better teacher than a tree.
top hopper
02-16-2008, 01:51 PM
Chainsaws are kewl! :|:
Jonny Hart said it best, IMO.
We're forever being asked, "So what do you do in winter ?"
I'm two, three, four different people.
And the fact is, I don't like it.
I want to be an arborist 24-7, 365.
That just isn't possible in my climate.
A gub'mnt job is a sell-out to my mind.
Sorry to all of you who hold that coveted position. It's another one of those, "Brag about how little you do..." positions, and I for one resent it.
Be me for a minute.
Underwor
02-17-2008, 10:55 AM
I find myself in agreement with extremetrees. Trees and their associates have been a great teacher. I got into the business to make big bucks ($2.15/hr) to pay for the next year of college.
TC3 I find people asking me what I do in the summer! So far learning about trees so I can teach better the next school term; and making enough money to pay the bills so I can afford to teach the next year.
Greenhorn
02-17-2008, 11:15 AM
And the number one reason is...
you can write off the fun gear you buy!
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