ice warriors

[arborworks1]

Those of you in the ice storm region, my heart goes out to you that is a mess to get cleaned up.

Take lots of pics and be safe. Keep us all updated.

[MasterBlaster]

I wonder how bad it is. The news will be on soon...

[squisher]

Hmm someone got a link or something? Where's this happening? Yes I live under a rock!

[MasterBlaster]

Oklahoma is getting their ass kicked. Do we have any OK Treehousers??? I don't think so. Any Treehousers in the path? Who hasn't checked in today or yesterday?

Kansas and Missouri is next in line.

[Paul B]

Lazy Squisher!
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN10431659

[squisher]

I knew someone here would have the goods, I don't get 'round the net to much myself and no television so.............thanks for the link!

Looks like a terrible storm.:(

[RIVERRAT]

Looks like a terrible storm.:(
No man. This could be a good storm. As a matter of fact it could be a God Send:blob6: BRING IT ON!!

Hey you Arbormaster fellas in Okey, whats it like out your way?

[squisher]

But, in Paul's link they are blaming a number of deaths on the storm, that's gotta be not so fun for some people.

[sawinredneck]

Raining to beat the band right now!! Lightning and all!!! I just got home from work, again, there is about 1/8" of ice on everything but the roads right now. They are saying up to 1" of ice by tommorow PM.
The stores here are sold out of generators and icemelt already. I fired up my welder earlier and bought fiften gallon of gas, jus in case. I had hoped to had a fire going by now, but being home an hour and a half, then going back in for an hour and a half, no time for that.
I think this might get really ugly here!!!

[MasterBlaster]

What does the welder do for you?

[RIVERRAT]

But, in Paul's link they are blaming a number of deaths on the storm, that's gotta be not so fun for some people.
OH NO! I would not wish that on any one. My apologies to any that have all ready suffered & witnessed my misguided excitement

[squisher]

Mobile welder= generator

[MasterBlaster]

DuH!

What will it run?

[squisher]

OH NO! I would not wish that on any one.

I know ya wouldn't just sort of letting ya know how it might read to someone who had followed the link. Anyone who's read here much at all would realize you'd never wish that on anyone, atleast not without good reason.;)

[squisher]

DuH!

What will it run?

It will run whatever you want when the power goes out. Duh!:D

[MasterBlaster]

I know, I have a 750 watt power inverter I use when I lose power.

I guess I mean how many amps/watts will it provide?

[sawinredneck]

DuH!

What will it run?

It's 10KW, if I turn on the blower motor, then the heater, I can have most of the lights in the house on and choose between cooking dinner, or doing laundry. We are all electric, it sucks!!!

[Chisel Tooth]

Rain has just hit here about 1/2 hour ago, on the drive home there was ice in the center of the road. Had a lot of tree companies come in today. Chains, oil, mix, everything to make sure they are ready. Here's what the radar looks like.
See Ya
Mike

[No_Bivy]

time to make hay while the sun is shining...or uhh,... the ice is falling:D

[Chisel Tooth]

Kinda wierd here nowadays John, as a kid we got snow. Here a few years er ah, now days we tend to see more Ice. Last year good snow, very little ice.
See Ya
Mike

[RIVERRAT]

This is looking bad or good. I have all ready recieved 4 calls. Only one had damage the other three wanted to know that I would get to them if needed.

[arborworks1]

I just heard the weather channel say at least one inch of ice expected for some areas with freezing temps to last for several days beyond the event.

I can't even fathom a full inch of ice coating everything up.

We would have zero trees left for sure.

I've got a generator you have to meet me in the middle with your drop cord though!

[Chisel Tooth]

Better stand-by for sure, the tail end of this thing is still reaching out over 600 miles. And growing it looks like.

[RIVERRAT]

This is the real deal!!

[sotc]

you guys chain up all the way? just clear houses and clean up later?

[Chisel Tooth]

Yep I say you are right. This one looks like it's going to reek havoc. Buckle up bone head it's going to be a bumpy ride! Damn I wish I had 100 generators in stock.
See Ya
Mike

[arborworks1]

If you were a little slow right now.

Better man up and get it all together its not looking to pretty.

At least the cash flow will be hella positive pretty soon.


Course all the hurricane chasers will be rolling in to help too, since we had zero activity this year.

I guess the ones that are still afloat, after they blew mega bucks on katrina equipment, anyway.

[sawinredneck]

The times I went out we cleand up all we could while we where there. The branches hang so low it's easy to trim at the time. As easy as walking on ice gets that is.

[GASoline71]

Been through some serious wind storms and rain/thunder storms out here... even a few freak blizzards...

But I ain't never been in an ice storm... Hold tight you'se guys!!!

Good luck to ya all!!! Stay safe!

Gary

[RIVERRAT]

you guys chain up all the way? just clear houses and clean up later?
Around here its just get it to the curb. The cities & contractors come through & do the pick up. If it's bad you just get it all to the curb for about 2-3 weeks. After that you got to haul all debris.

No body & I mean nobody here hauls anything for the first couple of weeks.
It could still go either way here in my part of Kansas. Local station says it will all be slush by morning. The temperature is still a degree or two to warm. But ice is still forming on the trees.

[arborworks1]

I remember the pine trees sounding like shotguns all through night.

[sawinredneck]

We always hauled the day we cleaned up, but that is why we charged more, and I always had a place to pile it up and burn it later.
What I loved were the ones we asked if they wanted it cut up fo firewood size, "Heavens no, I don't want that wood!!" They would call my other buddy up asking for firewood, "We are all out of seasoned wood, all we have is green that is cut and split." "I'll take whatever you have!!"
Cut an clean all day, split and deliver right back to the same folks that night.:D You figure people out?

[Chisel Tooth]

This shit is weird, I just looked outside and it has turned to rain now.

[sawinredneck]

This shit is weird, I just looked outside and it has turned to rain now.

Yeah!!! I am going to bed, can't wait to see what it's like at 4am!!!

[Chisel Tooth]

Yeah me to, let the hammer fall I'll deal with it in the morning. Night all!
See Ya
Mike

[treelooker]

'I can't even fathom a full inch of ice coating everything up. "

We had 1 1/4" in 02 and it busted up a lot of trees.

The worst part was guys who would look at broken branches and bs the owners into thinking the tree had to come down.

Prune out the breakage only--they will come back!

[RIVERRAT]

Just cant tell whats going to happen at this point.

Well any way I got 3 cell phone batteries fully charged {will get car charger tomorrow} garage has a 1/2 cord of wood in it, got a gallon of white gas for both of my MSR camp stoves, xtra batteries for my Petzl head lamp.

I am turning in. Cant wait to see what tomorrow brings.

[sawinredneck]

I think? it was in '85, we followed a storm up from New Orleans, shut the whole town of New Orleans down for about a week. By the time we got to OK and into KS, it was close to three inches of ice. 25MPH was getting scary fast on the highway!!
That storm was nothing but ugly, but I sure don't remeber the power outages like this!!
They just said on the news one out of three people in OK is without power!! What scares me, they say MO got hit worse yesterday!!!

[stehansen]

Stay safe guys.

[Paul B]

only seen freezing rain build up to about 1/4" here, about 5 years ago and about 15 years ago. both times I parked and stayed home. got some neat pics though. I was walking around at a neighbors house, you could hear the red alder popping and dropping branches to the ice sheeted ground, really weird noises. That and you had to chip at the ice to get in to your car as it was covered!
remember these photos?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/southerncounties/content/images/2005/08/24/ice_car_330_330x330.jpg

http://www.rainydaymagazine.com/RDM2007/RainyDayDestinations/Versoix/CoveredCarBig.jpg

http://www.markdaviesmedia.com/cold

[sawinredneck]

Holding steady at 32deg. right now. No ice on the roads right now, but have been hearing the transformers blowing all around here.
More and more coming though, should be lots of fun! NOT!!!

[Chisel Tooth]

Power outages all around me, temps still in the low 30s. Roads look ok, no ice on my truck. We might have dodged the bullet.
See Ya
Mike

[FJR]

Yeah it is raining here and it doesn't look too horrible, yet.

[Chisel Tooth]

We ain't out of the woods yet, there is a lot more to come. This might just be getting started for you.
See Ya
Mike

[Chisel Tooth]

Just found out that KCI our big airport has no power, 3000+ out of power in Platte City. I didn't think that many people lived there. This is only about 5 miles northwest of me. Still holding steady in the 30s with rain.
See Ya
Mike

[MasterBlaster]

Good luck to all ya'll!!!

[FJR]

Here's the latest radar.

[Chisel Tooth]

Yep as I said a lot of storm left.

[Chisel Tooth]

Fixin to head to work I will give an update from there.
see Ya
Mike

[Chisel Tooth]

Roads are ok, a few limbs down but not bad at all. 27,000 without power, still holding steady in the low 30s, and raining. There is a 1/8" of ice coating everything. We are right on the edge, the parking lot is slushy, with patches of ice. The temps drop any this could get ugly real fast.
See Ya
Mike

[RIVERRAT]

Dont want to see any get hurt or anything of that nature......BUT the temps could drop a few degrees.

Only minor tree damage in Johnson County,Ks.

[pantheraba]

I had b'fast at our Cracker Barrel this AM...there were about 20 Pike Electric bucket trucks there, getting a big breakfast before heading to Oklahoma.

They are headed your way to do disaster work....good luck, all.

[sawinredneck]

It's holding right at 32-33 here, rained all day!! Across the street power has been out since 5am, we have been out since 1pm. I have a nice fire and the generator running full bore now.
It sure is pretty out there though!! All the ice is turning white.

[sawinredneck]

And now everybody has power again!

[MasterBlaster]

Hallelujah!!!

[sawinredneck]

Hallelujah!!!

I wish Butch!!!! It was off and on at least six times last night. But the weather seems to be diminishing here, so all might be good!!

[Burnham]

I always find it interesting how most people get all wigged out when the power goes out for a half day or a day, even a few hours. It really doesn't inconvenience us significantly until it gets over 48 hours, and then only because the refrigerator/freezer begins to warm up.

Life just goes to hell when the ice for my nightly glass of scotch begins to melt ;) .

Now let it go down for a couple of weeks and I'll be whining with the rest of the wimps.

[sawinredneck]

I have to dissagree with you Burnham. The neighborhood I live in is ALL electric, many families, myself included, have small children. Small children have many needs!!
Last time we did this ice storm thing it was 0 the first night and 19 the second. This time it has been 32ish, a HUGE difference!! I have an airtight stove and only burn Hedge, without the genset I was doing good to hold 60 in the house. Without that airtight, as many neighbors found out, life is miserable without power!!!

[Burnham]

Well, it definitely is a matter of being set up beforehand to be less dependent on electricity should it not be there, as is fairly frequently the case out in my rural neck of the woods.

If you don't do that, then I reckon it has to be hard to do without.

I just cannot imagine failing to arrange my home so it is of little consequence should the juice fail.

People without electricity have been raising children for a very long time...I'd be the last to say "let them suffer", but I'm confident small children could live comfortably in my house without electricity.

[MasterBlaster]

I'm pretty much a slobbering savage w/o 'lectricity!!!

[Burnham]

And how is that different than with??
:lol: :P ;)

[sawinredneck]

I am "set up" and very well "aranged" now, but all I had before hand was the wood heat and flashlights. Thank goodness the wife was pregnant at the time of the last storm!!

[MasterBlaster]

Ha! (At B)

[Burnham]

I am "set up" and very well "aranged" now, but all I had before hand was the wood heat and flashlights. Thank goodness the wife was pregnant at the time of the last storm!!

All I have is wood heat and flashlights now, really.

We heat 95% with wood anyway. I don't own a generator. We can cook on the wood stove and on the stovetop in the kitchen (the range is propane, so the oven needs electricity to operate the valve, but the burners light with a match). We can flush the toilet with water in a bucket from the creek. We store 50 gallons of potable water in the house year round. We can heat a pot of water on the woodstove for a simple bath or to shave. We don't use many electric appliances or entertainment items. We have a couple of gas lanterns for working in the kitchen or reading, and kerosene lamps for other lighting needs. It isn't all that hard a way to live...relatively short-term :) .

Andy, I'm not meaning to come across as dissing your neighbor's dependence on electricity, or yours either. Sorry if it came across that way. I just can't see letting my family be in that position.

[sawinredneck]

You're not "dissing" anybody Burnham, I get it. But you move in and don't think about it, hell I didn't!!! "All electric, cool, one bill!!!" Myself and others, are learning that line of thought, well, SUCKED!!!
The airtight I have now, an older Buck, I have to have power for the blower motor or it burns out:cry:
My dad has the larger version, as well as natural gas (I know, I know) and he bought a deep cycle battery and a small power inverter just to run the blower on his stove!!!
I have a propane grill, as well as a wood burning grill, I can get water at the artisian well if needed etc.
I just have gotten used to being the only house in the neghborhood in the darkness, with all the lights on, warm and toasty, cooking dinner and doing laundry:D

[DTW902]

It's tough for those that live in the larger towns and cities. Not many creeks run through these towns, the lift pumps don't run with out power so that means the sewer will be backing up in a pro longed outage. Not many homes are set up to be heated with just wood.
When it is freezing out and they have no heat, water, sewer, or lights things get crazy. Yes people raised a lot of families without all these conveniences but they were already set up for that life style.

[sawinredneck]

I am glad to be hearing from you Dave!!!!!

Good points BTW!

[Paul B]

condo dweller here, 'lectric everything. but since I am an OCGD type person I have some of my camping basics here in the closet. two real good sleeping bags, a dynamo flashlight, a dynamo / solar AM/FM radio, a handful of battery flashlights around the place, a mini propane BBQ and a good store of tinned foods etc, some bottled water, soda and the like. we could manage a few days no probs just wouldnt be as comfy as usual :)
oh, and I still have a PUR water filter hand pump thingie so if it comes to it I can pump water at about 1.5 liters per minute from almost any water source and have it fit to drink. ;-) Next time the wife isnt looking I will be buying an MSR filter tho, or Katadyne. My rubber seals are almost gone on the PUR and they dont make them anymore.
http://www.myccr.com/SectionGear/ReviewPics/PurExplorer_LG.jpg

[No_Bivy]

Push that storm east a bit please.....be careful out there..Ice damage is sketchy!!!!

[top hopper]

Hey Paul- you do know that that solar radio wont work real well in the closet right?

[DTW902]

You can have this one John I am busy enough without a ice storm. The last ice storm we were without power for 17 days....
So far so good this storm, just rain, very little ice. A lot of pre-emptive calls wanting to be on the list if it gets bad.

[Frans]

Wow, I just heard that over 20 people have DIED from this ice storm!!

I live in an area with a well, and we heat with wood. Yes we have a propane tank for the H2o heater and the stove, but otherwise we are independant.

I have a 3000 watt generator which is more than enough to run such necessities such as laundry and lights.


I gotta love the treeman's outlook on this kind of thing. They are looking forward to the event, rather than dreading it.

Cha-ching!

[Jonseredbred]

I gotta love the treeman's outlook on this kind of thing. They are looking forward to the event, rather than dreading it.

Cha-ching!

Not really Frans, we had a major one in 1991, it was devastating. There was alot of work for a year.

But after that there was no work for 5 to 6 years. I mean none, We all suffered. Anybody who had tree work to do had it done right after the storm.

In some ways they do not help us tree guys at all.

[Skwerl]

My area is suffering from the same fate, as is much of the Gulf coast. 2004 was devastating and everybody and their retarded cousin were buying Crapsman chainsaws and selling 'treework'. Within a year all the work was done and most trees don't need annual work. The last two years have been dead with this year being about 50% off of average. My biggest client said he could have done all of this year's work in 4 months.

The worst part is everyfucking body insists on consoling us with the observation "Boy, if only you had a good storm this year".
:roll:

[Frans]

Thanks for the education, all.

Yes I thought it would be a long term blessing, but the reality is different.

Stay safe, and gas up your generators

[DTW902]

If you need a storm every year or so to keep your self in business then I would say you need to find another line of work.
I would rather just have good old steady flow of business, These ice storms put a hardship on everyone, extra money is hard to come up with at Christmas time. Frans it's not just your block thats without power. It's the whole area, it's hard to get anything. Hard to get fuel for your trucks and equipment let alone your generator. How many gas station's in your area have generators to run the pumps.

[Paul B]

nobiffy, its a solar / dynamo radio meaning you can wind the little handle and it charges. otherwise tho its in the window sill ;-)
http://www.leevalley.com/images/item/gardening/kc525s2.jpg

[sawinredneck]

The temp is dropping, and it's still misting. I think the mist is worse than the rain, it sticks better!! My truck, still nice and warm from running around tonight, has nothing, the wifes van, it's covered solidly!!! (She insisted on taking the truck to get dinner tonight even, and she doesn't like it much)

And all of you are right, it's instant money now, but by the time all is said and done, you have trimmed these trees back so much, there is little of anything to be gained in the next few years.

[Chisel Tooth]

We didn't anything compaired to Oklahoma City 600,000 without power. I expect tomorrow might be worse than today. We get a mix on top of the ice this could cause bigger problem. Will have to wait and see.
See Ya
Mike

[stehansen]

I'll bet it has been over 5 years since we had an electric outage. I have a 3000 watt generator also but it probably wouldn't start. We have a fireplace but it only heats a small part of the house. I have my BBQ that has a burner and we have water for the toilet in the swimming pool. We could get by OK for a while. I actually cooked on the fireplace a few years ago just for fun. It wasn't that fun. I really like hot showers. I don't have any drinking water stored. I had better get the gen set out and fire it up, and get some drinking water and I will be all set.

[Frans]

FINALLY, the hills around here are getting green from the bit of rain we have had
:P :P :P :P :P




Actually, I really do hope it all goes well for you guys.

[sawinredneck]

All clear around Wichita!!! Holding at 28 now, no new mosture over the night and none expected today!!!
No ice on the driveway, no new ice on the truck, but I'd imagine there are some slick spots, and I can live with that!!!!
Thanks for all the good wishes!! I hope the others fair as well as I have!!

[squisher]

Heh for all of you that run back-up generators. How do you have it set-up to power your house? I mean like how do you 'wire' it in to power your home?

And I hope y'all are safe from the ice storm but get a nice little bonus of work right before christmas.:thumbup:

[Paul B]

we had one at a greenhouse / store I worked at in the early 90's. we had a genset hooked right into the main board on a 220V plug I think. kicked on when power kicked off. all full auto. no idea of the Kv rating of the old beast.

[squisher]

I'm gonna set something up. My power goes out atleast once a month if not more, we get along fine but I'd rather have all my goodies on the go still.

[sotc]

you guys need to seperate your home off the main circuit before you charge up your house with a generator. the power will back feed into the power grid. transformers work both ways so your generator will put high voltage out on the far side of the transformer and possibly kill someone working on the lines.

[squisher]

Good advice Willie, I beleive all homes up here have a mainbreaker/cut-off after the meter but before the fuse panel. So I'm assuming that would be the switch to throw and tie your gen in after that switch but before your breaker box?

[Burnham]

If you set up with a gen of sufficient size to power up much of your home, the "proper" way to do it is with an auto switch-out box. This device automatically isolates your home from the grid when you power up you gen, so that feedback into the grid is impossible. Any competant electrician can tell you more...I'm less than competant :).

If you use a small gen to run some lights, maybe cool the fridge down off and on, that sort of thing, then just plug what you want to run into a heavy extension cord from the genset, keeping those things isolated from your house wiring.

Be extra cautious of where you set up the genset. Think about carbon monoxide gas...it is heavier than air and can collect in basements or crawl spaces through foundation vents. Of course, never run one in your house or garage.

[squisher]

Yah don't worry I'll not be trying to wire something like this up myself, just trying to be armed with some info.8)

Good advice on the placement issues, thanks.

[sawinredneck]

What I have done, not the proper thing I know, was to take out my 220v welder in the garage (don't need it now:D ). It had a 60 amp breaker and plenty of extra wire, for moving the welder outside. I leave that breaker turned off all the time. When the power goes out I turn off the main breaker, turn on the welder breaker, turn off everything but one light, and fire up the generator.
A smaller 110v genset can be plugged in an outlet, as Burnham said, then turn off the main again.
Easy enough?

[squisher]

Well damn that does seem very simple, so I can just isolate my house, plug.....heh wait don't generators have the plug-ins on them not the plugs? Now I'm confused again.:?

[Paul B]

http://www.emergencypower.com/transferswitches.html maybe seeing some of the hardware will help ?

http://www.emergencypower.com/resources/kit2.jpg

6500 Watt 'silent' gas model, sale now $1000 reg $1700. so they say.
http://www.emergencypower.com/resources/LT6500S-white.jpg

[squisher]

Hot damn! I've learned that I'll definetly need someone who knows what they're doing to set this whole gig up for me. No power means no running water for me and that sucks!

[DTW902]

You are supposed to use a disconnect, manual or auto. A breaker does not isolate the common/ground wire so there is a chance that you can back feed juice through the common/ground. A actual disconnect isolates both hot leads and the common/ground.
You can hard wire it to your gen set or wire up a outlet under your disconnect and make a pig tail to go from the house to your gen set.

[sawinredneck]

Well damn that does seem very simple, so I can just isolate my house, plug.....heh wait don't generators have the plug-ins on them not the plugs? Now I'm confused again.:?

They do have the plug in on them, but many come with the proper connector, and they are easily bought.



It ain't rocket science scooter!!!:lol:

[squisher]

It ain't rocket science scooter!!!:lol:

You're right it's more like magic to me, rocket's make sense. Electricity is more just something I accept and am grateful for moreso than understand in any capacity.

[sawinredneck]

You are supposed to use a disconnect, manual or auto. A breaker does not isolate the common/ground wire so there is a chance that you can back feed juice through the common/ground. A actual disconnect isolates both hot leads and the common/ground.
You can hard wire it to your gen set or wire up a outlet under your disconnect and make a pig tail to go from the house to your gen set.

Blah Blah Blah bluh ba blah la bluh blah

Did somebody say something?

Sorry Dave, work is getting the better of me, "It ain't right, but it'll work until you get time to do it right!!"
Then I never get the time anyway.
Bu yes, the disconnect is the right way to do it, and the absolute safest for all, but I are a cheap bastad!!!

[DTW902]

I was putting that out there for Justin so he would know the the right way to start off with. Not dissing you Andy....

[sawinredneck]

It's all good:thumbup:

And yes, that is the way to go for sure!! Some day I might even do it right, probably not though.

[Frans]

I have heard that the disconnects set you back about 4 bills.

[Chisel Tooth]

Looks like we have a snow storm headed our way, 3" to 6" predicted, we still have around 700 people in Leavenworth without power.
See Ya
Mike

[sawinredneck]

Had some guys come in from Hutchison to work on a saw, about 45 miles North West of Wichita. They said it looke like a tornadoe went through Hutch. because the ice was so bad!!
Then six inches of snow, yeah, wont that be fun:evil:

[sawinredneck]

They just said on the news there are still 100,000 peole without power in KS!! WOW!!!!

[MasterBlaster]

Generator sales must be through the roof!

[Skwerl]

I doubt there are any generators still available at the retail level within 50 miles of KC.

I bought a 5500w after the first hurricane to hit Orlando back in 2004. It was the day after the storm and I got lucky and found out from a buddy that an Ace Hardware 20 miles away was getting in a shipment of 200 the following morning. I raced down there and paid for it in full, in advance, sight unseen. I was #193.

[sawinredneck]

Nah Brian, they truck stuff in daily from other stores as needed, if the stores have power, I'd bet you can buy about any genset you want right now!!

[Chisel Tooth]

3" to 5" of snow expected starting tonight , plus 1" to 2 " more tomorrow. Andy they are calling for around 7" out your way, Dave looks like the same for you. Might have to go rabbit hunting Saturday.
See Ya
Mike

[Frans]

55 degrees @ 3 PM. Plenty cold for me

[sawinredneck]

Well Mike, the rules change all the time!!!
Now it's four to twelve here!! They alway have that dividing line down the tunpike, pluse or minus fifty miles. And it kep shifting tonight!!! I think Dave will dodge the bullet on this one, he should have less than three, but................
We have freezing rain and sleet right now, under a witer storm warning, and a heavy snow warning already.
The genste is still plugged in, and I still have ten gallons of fuel sitting, plus the eleven in it, and LOTS of batteries for the flashlights. I even brought in some wood so it would be dry and I wouldn't have to work so hard starting a fire this time, DUH!!!!!:D
Let the games begin, I'll take snow over ice anyday!!!!

Edit: It was snowing like a MOFO when I went back to work, pretty near a white-out, now, on the way home, nothing!!

[Chisel Tooth]

Yeah I know Andy we live in the one place where the weather can change in 5 minutes. I don't know how many times I've seen a storm headed my way and then it will split and go around me, this has become known as the Tonganoxie split. I have about 2" on the ground now, it's still coming down but very light. Glad your ready and have some dry wood inside,:D
See Ya
Mike

[vharrison]

:lol: We are getting a cold front on Sunday, might get into the mid 70's. :lol:

Seriously, I don't know how ya'll do it.

[sawinredneck]

So farthis has turned out to be another joke!! We might have an inch to an inch and a half on the ground, might have another inch coming.
Nothing at all like they were thinking.

We have the Wichita split Mike, seems the giant storms hit Wichita, the nastiest part follows the turnpike North East, and the weaker cell comes over Wichita and surounding towns. I's wild to watch in the spring!

[stehansen]

We have been having frosty mornings here and warm afternoons.

[Old Monkey]

In the winter I prefer it if the temps stay below freezing as work sites become muddy messes as it gets warmer.

[Chisel Tooth]

The snow has picked up looks like around 3" on the ground. Yes sfr Andy nothing like what they were predicting.
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Mike

[sawinredneck]

Took a road trip today. The wifes Grandma is in the hospital with low blood sugar and pnemonia, old and frail, it's the right thing to do.
Not quite 100 miles East of here, to Fredonia KS. It was interesting to see how differently areas got hit!! About 45 miles east, there was still 3/4" of ice on the trees and 2 inches of snow. Another 10 miles, right around where Dave lives, maybe an inch of snow. Got to Fredonia, four to five inches of snow still on the ground.
The highways were very good, in town, it was miserable driving!!
Just found the whole drive interesting and wanted to share.

[Bodean]

This guy I work with is from Kansas and says there is a fortune to be made in TreeWork.

[sawinredneck]

Between tornadoes, ice/snow storms and the wind that never stops blowing, yup, properly set up, you'd be swamped!!

[MasterBlaster]

Sorry to hear about your Grandma in law, Andy.

[sawinredneck]

Thanks Butch, she's an old trooper, she is going to come out of this fine. We just hadn't seen her in a while, and the "what if" of not seeing her kicked in.

[RIVERRAT]

you guys need to seperate your home off the main circuit before you charge up your house with a generator. the power will back feed into the power grid. transformers work both ways so your generator will put high voltage out on the far side of the transformer and possibly kill someone working on the lines.

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

[RIVERRAT]

This guy I work with is from Kansas and says there is a fortune to be made in TreeWork.
Tell Steve to keep that quiet. He's lying. Everybody knows we have no trees here Kansas:lol:

The "Little Apple" Manhattan, Ks. got hit pretty hard. Power was out at my friends house for about 4 days. There is some big stuff down. But over all not REAL bad. Got 4-8" of snow right after the ice storm.
It really was a pretty good time working in it. You just have to dress for it.

[DTW902]

Went from ice to snow to wading around in mud fun stuff I tell ya....:cry:

[sawinredneck]

And snow coming this weekend!!! WOOOOOO HOOOOO!!!!!!:P

[stehansen]

You guys be careful driving in that stuff.

[sawinredneck]

You guys be careful driving in that stuff.

Thats the crazy thing about KS, it's 50 today, 50+ tomorrow.
Then it drops again. Right now the roads are about as clear as i gets.

[Chisel Tooth]

Same here close to 50, same tomorrow, and 55 on friday. Then cold with a wintery mix on Saturday. Weather in the great midwest is rarely dull in the winter.
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Mike

[sawinredneck]

And so it it begins again!!! We were supposed to get 2-3 inches last night. We now have a winter storm warning in effect. The wind is gusting to 38mph, thunder and lightning with snow coming down fast!! It has now been brought up to 5-7 inches of snow by 7pm tonight.
Could be another dud, could be pretty wild, only time will tell. But thunder snow is one thing, never had heard of lightning as well!!!!

[sotc]

yeah ive never heard of thunder and lightning in a snow storm. wild!

[sawinredneck]

Getting mighty close to being a blizzard now!!! Pretty near white out outside, the snow is coming down horizontally, 45mph gusts now!! My BIL waited to drive up from Tulsa, I just now got him talked out of that!! I thought he and his wife had left earlier so I had the Bronco gear and a helpful buddy lined up to go get them when they got stuck, yes, it's that bad out there!!!!
I hope to get some pics, I'll see how that goes.

[MasterBlaster]

Wow, and I don't even have a heater lit.

[sawinredneck]

Yeah!!! It's going to be all of 12 tonight.
I went out to take pics and almost got stuck just geting out of the drive!!! I hope to have the pics up soon, not sure how well they will show, it was geting dark and the snow had started to taper off, of course!!! I really wanted a good one of the snow coming down sideways.

[Chisel Tooth]

I have about 2" on the ground, it's blowing here also but nothing like what you are getting Andy. That could change it this tracks right I could get what you have in a few hours.
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Mike

[RIVERRAT]

The snow & wind started here just as I went up a fairly tall White Pine. Tall for here any ways.... I really enjoyed it..... It was surreal. The wind bringing snow racing down off the Flint Hills some 40+ mph with the temp well below freezing.
But there was also a serene, peacefulness for me in this moment of time. With weather putting an end to the buzz of all distant saws working the aftermath of the storm.

I wrestled free a hanger & as I turned to toss it so it would clear the fence below I caught the glimpse of a woman's, wide eyed, smiling face, peering from a second floor window, from the house I was working at. She waved. I did the same in return.

In this moment, working that tree there was a fraction of time where it truly felt as if I was king & there was peace on all of the earth......


Tree Work. I wish to do nothing else!

[MasterBlaster]

I kinda miss the old days, when I was a bartender in a strip joint.

[Paul B]

Wife passes along the sentiment " he was a handsome devil" sorry about the past tense, not sure if she meant it that way. :)

[sawinredneck]

And now, a few pics, like I said, it was getting dark and the snow had let up some, so not the white out conditions earlier, but...................

[Paul B]

y'al got a fuel pump in your driveway? shit and shinoodles, dont you go looking for sympathy from lil ole me!
:)

have a safe and happy holiday man!! :D

[sawinredneck]

If only it worked!!!!

[sotc]

looks like it was blowin sideways:)

[gf beranek]

Man, I'm so glad it doesn't get that cold here. I'd freeze my nuts off.

Our storms come mostly out of the south with high wind gusts to 100 plus, but temperatures seldom below 40. Trees snapped, up rooted and jackstrawed. Always good for a couple weeks of intense sawing.

Poweroutages can be extensive though. Weeks sometimes. City water still runs. That's good. Most people have wood heat.

A lot of people ban together at the pubs where gensets keep lights and tv going, wood stoves to cook food for all. Even at its worst it's really not bad. We're not freezing.

hearts out to you, guys. be careful

[sawinredneck]

And here we go again!!!!!!!
29 when I went to work at 4am. 27 now, thats as hot as it got! Freezing rain coming down now, anything from 3-10 inches tonight!!!!
Guess I need to get up at 2 so I can get to work on time!!!
GRRRRRRRRRRRR, this is getting old!!!

[Chisel Tooth]

23 here, nothing coming down yet, expecting 1" to 3" of snow tonight, and 1" tomorrow. No big deal for here. Andy you guys are getting blasted out there.
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Mike

[sawinredneck]

Not yet, it's more of an ice fog right now, but.............

And I love how they say on the news "This is a major developing storm, we will have to wait and see how it's going to track to make any real predictions on this one."
I wish I was kidding, but that was an honest to God qoute from the 6pm news!!!

[Chisel Tooth]

They don't have a clue, I love it when they say there are different models, and then they give you 3 different predictions. I think they should just use this.
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mike

[Skwerl]

Hey Squishy, did you get a chance to take a closer look at the truck springs today? I'm concerned if you're still working that truck with heavy loads in poor traction if the axle is no longer firmly attached to the truck frame.
:\:

[sawinredneck]

And another false one here!! Maybe two inches on the ground, and it's just about wrapped up. Just enough snow to make it hard to drive, thats about it!

[RIVERRAT]

There is supposed to be some headed here.

[Chisel Tooth]

We got a little over 2" still coming down. Might have 3" to 4" before it's over, roads are snow covered and there are wrecks everywhere. They have one of our major highways shut down due to a accident.
See Ya
Mike

[Chisel Tooth]

Made it to work, took 35 mins. normally takes only 10 to 15. The roads look like a plow hasn't touched them all night. Up to 4"+ now, and it's still snowing, but has slowed down a bunch.
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Mike

[sotc]

my guy called this am and said "if i leave now ill get there about 10" he lives over the hill in calif. so we have another day off

[sawinredneck]

Yeah, it was neato!!!!! Took me 30 min to get in, normaly 10 as well. Roads were slicker than snot!!!
Got there and they were trying to run the forklifts in this crap! They got one stuck, then two others stuck trying to get it out!! That took an hour with my truck. Then another one got stuck at another building. A semi got stuck/jackknifed geting out of one of the buildings. I called the company that was supposed to plow it, "Are you sure you really need it plowed today sir?" I tell them the story, "Yeah, we'll be out in an hour!" Two hours later she calls back, "He's in town plowing, and you are right up on the list and he will get there, as soon as he gets his truck started." Yeah, going well so far!!
So two PALLETS of ice melt later, I got a spreader and hooked it up to the back of a golf cart (don't ask). Then I took a pallet on the forklift and plowed what I could with that.
I called the other place back, four hours later, and told them not to bother!!
I need a drink!!:P

[Chisel Tooth]

Nowhere near that kinda drama here,I just had to shovel the front stairs, and swept the rear ones. Did sell 2 blowers and, took a parts order. I'm ready to go home. Pretty much stopped snowing here, got a total of around 5" to 6" all together. Sounds like a fun time Andy. :what:
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Mike

[Paul B]

and no one has a camera to show off any of the excitment..... :(

[sawinredneck]

I had my phone, but can't get Motorola phone tools to work with @#$%ING VISTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So no way to load them to the computer!!!! (Can you tell I am happy about that?) @#$%ING MOTOROLA, @#$%ING VISTA!!!!!!

[Chisel Tooth]

I agree with the Vista thing. I bought a new HP tower, it's been a pain. I was going to get a cord for my phone but not sure if it will work on the new computer. Not sure if any of the cameras will even work. Being computer dumb is one thing, but to be computer dumb with new stuff that no one knows or understands really sucks.
See Ya
Mike

[RIVERRAT]

I have some pics of some trees on houses. But cat get THE DAM PICS TO LOAD OFF THE DAM CD!!!

From the way it looks, guess I am another D-@ss in Kansas

[Skwerl]

Jeff- My newest camera doesn't have any readily identifiable link for transferring pictures to my computer either. I pretty much have to right-click on the picture, hit 'cut' (or 'copy') and then go to my pictures file on my computer and paste the image there.

[RIVERRAT]

This computer is not recognising the CD as best I can tell

[DTW902]

Well made it back at least for a couple days. Heading back out tomorrow. Jeff we are working up in your neck of the woods west of Fort Riley.

Wow only about 4500 posts to catch up on. Sorry no pictures forgot the camera, I'll try and remember it tomorrow and get a few pictures at least.
All I know is I am wore out, but all is good....

[DTW902]

Well I'm out of here (again), be back in a few days maybe. Anyway I'll have to catch up later catch you all on the flip side....:big-wave:

[MasterBlaster]

Ooops! And I just asked you a queshun in another thread.

Have fun!!! :beer:

[Chisel Tooth]

We got around 2" of snow last night, temps in the teens. Wrecks everywhere, all schools closed. I don't remember them closing school when I was kid for 2" of snow. Then again it could be closed because of the cold temps.
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[Paul B]

for a school close I remember 6" being a milestone.... maybe my remembery is gone silly....

[Cobleskill]

No , your remembory is ok. People seem to be getting very soft as well as paranoid about some lawyer seeing an excuse to sue.

[Paul B]

well it doesnt take much snow or ice here to make driving very sketchy, guess the rules have tightened up a bit over the years.

gall darned lawyers...

[squisher]

I can tell ya 6"s doesn't close any schools here. As a matter of fact I don't recall school ever being closed/cancelled due to snow. We're prepared for it here though not like you coasties.:P

[RIVERRAT]

Jeff we are working up in your neck of the woods west of Fort Riley.

....
Sorry I missed this post. Where you in Junction City? W
ould have liked to have stopped to say hi.

[DTW902]

Sorry I missed this post. Where you in Junction City? W
ould have liked to have stopped to say hi.

Jeff we are working just north of Junction City will be back up there tomorrow afternoon. Wakefield is the name of the town. How are things going in your neck of the woods, things getting back to normal in Manhattan or is it still a mess.

[RIVERRAT]

I believe the city of Mahattan will take just short of FOREVER picking up the curb side debris. Dave I will be leaving Manhattan tomorrow back on wen.