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brendonv
11-21-2007, 08:24 PM
I have bean putting it off for a while now, but the 1 ton needs new rear tires. Can anyone recomend a good 235/85/16 Load Range E tire? Anyone have any luck/no luck with a certain tire?

Want to spend between $100-$125ish for each tire.

Thanks,

B

Rotax Robert
11-21-2007, 08:34 PM
I run Coopers on my 1 ton Dodge and am more than happy.

Skwerl
11-21-2007, 08:36 PM
According to Tire Rack, the Pirelli Scorpion ranks highest in that size/ application.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Pirelli&tireModel=Scorpion+ATR&vehicleSearch=true&partnum=385R6SCORATROWL&fromCompare1=yes&place=29&load_rating=E&load_rating=F&load_rating=G&minSpeedRating=R

squisher
11-21-2007, 08:41 PM
Interesting I followed a link on Brian's link and the comparison chart http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=ORAT&width=235%2F&ratio=85&diameter=16&tireSearch=true&minSpeedRating=R

And the Michelin LTX's show the best rating for treadwear. I would agree with that I ratbagged a set of those tires on my chevy dually for nearly four years (three winters) and was amazed at how long they lasted.

Paul B
11-21-2007, 08:42 PM
I have coopers too on my 3/4 ton, they get snaky in the rain during launch and hard braking and dont like snow either. But overall I am happy.

without going down to the parkade to check I think these are the tires I have:
http://www.coopertires.com.au/tyres/at.htm

squisher
11-21-2007, 08:44 PM
I run BF commercial t/a tractions studded for my trucks in the winter those tires laugh at whatever weight you throw on 'em and grip insane, but probably not what you're looking for Brendon.

Skwerl
11-21-2007, 08:52 PM
I know I posted the Tire Rack thing but I've never owned Pirellis. I have owned Michelins though and most models are very good. Currently have Cross Terrains (cushy smooth SUV tires) on my pickup but the LTX is a great work tire. Smooth, long wearing and excellent wet traction.

I have no clue how they would work in ice, snow or mud. :P

brendonv
11-21-2007, 09:01 PM
When I bought the truck, the guy had just put 2 new front tires which are Cooper Discoverer ATR. The backs are also Cooper but a different model and plain old spanked.

I am wondering if I should just get the tires as the front, so they can all be rotated properly. And they fit into my budget, @ $118.

Which brings me to the next question. Whats the correct way to rotate tires on a dually?

Thanks for the replys guys,

B

squisher
11-21-2007, 09:06 PM
I don't rotate tires on my dually's but I would stick with all the same tires.

Rotax Robert
11-21-2007, 09:35 PM
Key words was 100 to 125 ish

RIVERRAT
11-21-2007, 10:35 PM
Key words was 100 to 125 ish

Yup! That narrows the choices down.

Frans
11-21-2007, 10:39 PM
Which brings me to the next question. Whats the correct way to rotate tires on a dually?



B

I have had great luck with the Michelin Traction but they have switched to the AT2 now. Getting about 60 thou. miles on a set right now. 'bout ready to replace them.
I drive consistently off road
But they cost more than your budget allows.
Dont buy Toyo, they wont last, great traction but they will chunk on you.

As for rotating duallys, take the outermost rear tire, bring it to the front. Take the front and put it on the inside of the rear (so the inner rear is now on the outside).

BF Goodrich makes a good tire, Cooper has been around for like 100 years. Buying good LTX (light truck) tires is tuff. All the load range E tires are not made the same.
Always keep the tires on the same side of the truck, dont cross rotate radials.

Jonseredbred
11-21-2007, 10:40 PM
Recaps on the back!!

stehansen
11-21-2007, 11:34 PM
I'm kind of a Bridgestone fan.

Dave Shepard
11-21-2007, 11:55 PM
This is just my personal experience, but the Cooper ST or maybe it's STT, tires, the ones with the mudder-ish type tread, have far outlasted any other I have run on my pickup. I don't know current pricing, as I haven't bought a set lately.My pickup came with Michelen all seasons. Might have gotten 18,000 out of them. Tried a Cooper highway tread, same thing, about 18,000. Then I got a set of the Cooper STTs. I can routinely get 25-30,000 out of a set. And that is with a 500 HP pickup towing on average 10-13,000 pounds. Traction in mud and snow is great, I also plowed snow with this truck. Wet traction I can't vouch for, as this truck WILL NOT hook up an a wet road. Just about all of the contractors around run this tire now on their pickups and one-tons. Again, I don't know the price now, I think they were $130 last time.


Dave

squisher
11-21-2007, 11:58 PM
We will need pics of this truck.......please!:D

Dave Shepard
11-22-2007, 12:01 AM
M truck? It just looks like a truck, when it isn't moving.:roll:


Dave

Paul B
11-22-2007, 12:03 AM
500HP pickup? uhm yeah, pics please. is it one of these? :)
http://images.motortrend.com/roadtests/pickup/112_0401_01l+2004_dodge_ram_srt_10_pickup+front.jp g

squisher
11-22-2007, 12:06 AM
Suite yourself, no sweat off my......:D

sotc
11-22-2007, 12:11 AM
probably diesel if hes pulling that weight alot.
brendan the longest lasting tires ive had were the stock michelins on my dodge but they are highway tires. dont know if that matters. i dropped big bucks on some toyos last year, theyre about 3700 # per tire single and had them siped, they are wearing bad so i wont do that again. if the bfg all terrains are load range e ill probably go back to those next year

Dave Shepard
11-22-2007, 12:11 AM
Nope, more useful than that. I've only got one or two pics of the truck. Here is one from last spring.

1999 2500 Cummins
Converted to 6 speed
TST Competition Computer
(much)Bigger injectors
500+HP, 1200ft/lbs flywheel, 400 HP 940 ft/lbs rear wheels
Quicker to 100mph than my friends 420HP Cobra:P
Lots of bald tires and broken parts


Dave

sotc
11-22-2007, 12:12 AM
sweet, mines about 350 hp and i love it!

squisher
11-22-2007, 12:12 AM
Here it is. That's your truck from the truck thread right Dave? Chipped diesel that must be a pretty hyped up chip to get 500 horse out of a 99 no?

Woh just saw your post, that's some crazy power!

Frans
11-22-2007, 12:25 AM
P-ups with open beds are light on the rear end so they hop or skitter on the road. Causes excessive tread wear.

I dont like maxing out engines like that, reduces their life. But I understand why to do it.
Mo, Power! :)

Dave Shepard
11-22-2007, 12:39 AM
P-ups with open beds are light on the rear end so they hop or skitter on the road. Causes excessive tread wear.

I dont like maxing out engines like that, reduces their life. But I understand why to do it.
Mo, Power! :)

Yes, pickups are really terrible for traction. Wet roads are a hazard for laying into the throttle hard up to about 90 MPH.:D

I don't know that you are really reducing the life of the Cummins that much, unless you are overheating the engine. Even if you reduced the life to 500k, you still have to have some truck left. ;) Cummins runs much higher horsepowers in the marine versions due to having better cooling of intake air with water to air intercoolers. Twin turbos make a huge difference there. I can run about 350 HP towing without running the pyro into unsafe territory, which is 1300 F. The newer CR Dodges can put out way more power than me with a chip that just plugs in under the dash.:roll:


Dave

Dave Shepard
11-22-2007, 12:42 AM
Squisher, yes, it is the highest percent chip available for the '99, you have to sign a waiver to get it.

Brendon, sorry for the derailment of the thread.


Dave

sotc
11-22-2007, 12:42 AM
but its an expensive chip! probably cheaper than all youve got in yours but still! my buddy is waiting for the new smarty for his 07

Dave Shepard
11-22-2007, 12:52 AM
I think I am going to stack a Smarty on top of my TST.:lol: So far I have in my truck:

TST level 2: $500
Upgrade to level 3: $100
Upgrade to Comp: $100
Injectors: $330
Guages: $250
New 5 speed: warranty (before chipping)
Convert to speed: $1740 clutch, $3200 tranny, $250 driveshaft work.
Second 6 speed: warranty
Clutch rebuild: $1100
Third 6 speed: don't know cuz I ain't giving the dealer $5200 for a rebuild when I only paid them $3200 for a new one!:X

In defense of Dodge, before the blame game starts, the clutch failure and the six speed failure were due to an aligment dowel being left out during the warranty of the first six speed. This is what blew the hubs out of the clutch discs and destroyed the transmisson. Just another of lifes expensive little lessons.


Dave

sotc
11-22-2007, 12:55 AM
ouch! i gave 400 bucks for my injectors, ez, and airbags:D already had gauges, straight pipe and bhaf :D sorry brendon, back to what new tires you should buy