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i got my old logging pics scanned to disc so here goes.
lunch getting sent to the crew in the "hole"
my best dog ever tater hanging out on the deck
GASoline71
08-02-2007, 12:11 AM
Keep 'em comin' Willie... Love it!!!:thumbup:
Gary
my internet is way slow right now so ill do more later
a small turn coming up the hill
"the show"
Bodean
08-02-2007, 12:50 AM
Spectacular Pics. NIIIIIIIIIIIIIce.
ill try some more
heres a power house skidder wth its operator and the big boss. this is hyampom, calif
that little prentie loader couldnt pick that log up! had to set the front end on, hold it there with the 648 and then set the rear
heres one of 2 entry posts we set up at the shop. put a 30" blok on one and a 36" block on top of the other. (note good dog:D )
a new paint job on the 188 washington
and off she goes to a job
timbco hydro-ax at the shop showing how steep a hill it can climb. note: how level the cab is, it tips in 2 directions. if it has trouble climbing a hill it can grab a tree and pull its self up or hold alog out in front for more forward weight
first pic i think the skyline broke (you can see it if you look close near the guy on the hill)
cody bucking a broke log
jack sorting out a plugged chute
pete mctree
08-02-2007, 02:03 AM
Great pics, thanks for posting them. Now all we need is loads more :)
MasterBlaster
08-02-2007, 07:15 AM
Keep it up, Willie! And thanks! :beer:
Jonseredbred
08-02-2007, 07:37 AM
Neat pictures, we dont have those steep inclines around here.
I have done a few clearing jobs on steep roadside embankments but nothing like that.
squisher
08-02-2007, 10:37 AM
Awesome pics Willie! Thanks alot for getting those together. What carriage is that a mackyII? We had a mackI and a eaglet guess which one I preferred :|: .
Burnham
08-02-2007, 05:48 PM
Nice pictures indeed, Willie. I'm enjoying them. Now post some of the steep ground for these flatlanders to gawk at :lol: .
yeah macky some thing. some of the pics have a brand new one on its first day of work!
Cedarkerf
08-02-2007, 11:47 PM
Nice pics. Another forum site people are facinated with this type of logging(sky line) never seen it even tho its been around a century. Some day it will be a lost art.
GASoline71
08-03-2007, 12:05 AM
Those Timbcos are tree eatin' mo-fos!
More Willie... More!!!
Gary
heres 6 that wont impress you since you probably do this all the time with more obstacles:D any how its the last nd biggest stick in that unit
456
the last one shows a little how steep it is burnham. really hard to show that in pics!
GASoline71
08-03-2007, 12:29 AM
Not impressed??? Hell yeah I'm impressed... great set of pics!:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Gary
climbing gear getting sent into the hole
rigging slinger pulling line
yarder pulling turn to the "road"
crummy fueling up equipment
some big wood in the deck
a 6 foot sugar pine butt cut being block purchased up the hill
butt and second cut on the road
on the truck
and another "nice but" ready to go to town:D
No_Bivy
08-03-2007, 07:04 AM
Is that your dog running around with you? Thats a good mutt!!
yeah that was tater, we moved to the city and she got run over:( i had 6 week old pups at the time and kept one, twitch. shes pretty good but nothing like her mom.
oh that wasnt me falling that stick, just my dog running in to check out the stump:)
the wood web puts that big butt log at around 20,000 pounds!
squisher
08-03-2007, 09:57 AM
We had a mackI and a eaglet guess which one I preferred :|: .
The joke behind that is that the mackI isn't a slack pulling carriage it's all by hand, and the eaglet is a slack puller, much mo nice!
Awesome pics Willie some nice big sticks there!
those are slack kicking mackys! 1 cylinder deutz diesel in them. we had a christy carriage as back up. you been around those? ugggh!
squisher
08-03-2007, 10:18 AM
No never been around a christy. Before we got the eaglet all we had was the mack1 and this local built flimsy little pos that was mechanically controlled not radio controlled what a pos. Took a real light touch on the mainline to engage and disengage the skyline brakes and many, many times it got jammed up. Lower the sky get the sledge and manually hammer off the brakes, god I was happy when that eaglet arrived.:)
sounds like a pain. the christi has a deal (wont mention the name!) that the carriage slammed into to lock it on the skyline. it was manually moved up and down the line as you worked down the hill
http://users.sisqtel.net/jfoster/foster3.htm
i did a search for them and found some guys i know selling one! not much of a picture but all i got
dozing in my cell while the carriage was broke down in the brush
some big "blue" pine
plugged chute again!
MasterBlaster
08-04-2007, 11:25 PM
More cool pics, as usual! Keep em up, Baby Face! :P
some big wood pics and a dinosaur loader
"2 moonlight rides and a picnic in the forest every day"
the new 35k macky and its first day of work
MasterBlaster
08-04-2007, 11:30 PM
That's an awesome gig you have, brother!!!
More cool pics, as usual! Keep em up, Baby Face! :P
ish me:D
used to have, been outa the woods since 2000
MasterBlaster
08-04-2007, 11:34 PM
I hear ya. :cry:
talkie tooter for blowing whistles
daryl fooling around
icecream boy rigging a lift tree
long splice in the skidding main
big piss fir
2 loaders to keep up
me rigging a lift tree
more big wood
squisher
08-05-2007, 12:02 AM
Awesome man, simply awesome. Loving these pics!8) Logging is good times for sure, life sure seemed simple compared to now when I was yarding.
And frig you guys got some nice looking wood there.
hard to beleive but most of that big wood is forest service! recognize the yellow paint burnham?
squisher
08-05-2007, 12:07 AM
What were you guys running for main/skyline diameter wise?
5/8 and 7/8 swedge. cheap korean cable
squisher
08-05-2007, 12:11 AM
I thought it looked a little on the thick side, I feel sorry for ya we ran 1/2 and 3/4 swedge and that was heavy enough.:|:
how were you guys set up?
squisher
08-05-2007, 12:27 AM
A skylead c-40. They are mounted on a skidder chassis that's stretched for the yarder part. Little yarder that can access some pretty rough terrain. Set-up for uphill or downhill(haulback). We used a line skidder or two depending on the setting to forward wood to the landing and then handbucked and wheel loader. 95% of what we did was handfalling only to gnarly for a feller/buncher to be practical. In five years I think two blocks were done with a buncher all the rest was handfalling. I was in line for that falling contract and was passed over as it was easier to find a good experienced faller than it was someone else who could climb/hook/pull cable all day. That's when I left. I worked the hillside atleast 9 days out of 10. Before that I had a bit of experience on the coast around big old madills(sp) did a bit of falling but couldn't get anything steady. I started on the coast spacing and got picked up by the odd logger here and there from Tofino(Vancouver Island) to Sandspit(Queen Charlottes) and most stops in between. Seven years I wandered around the coast before coming back to the interior and getting the steady gig with the little yarder, here's the only pic I could steal off the internet of a c-40(40'tower)
log-ologist
08-05-2007, 10:20 AM
love the pictures .
can you say how long ago they where taken please.
jamie
08-05-2007, 11:58 AM
i want i want i want
Jamie
Reddog
08-05-2007, 06:19 PM
Great pics Willie. Thanks.
love the pictures .
can you say how long ago they where taken please.
late 90s
stehansen
08-05-2007, 09:48 PM
Cool pictures sotc.
thanks guys, heres some more big wood
another punkin right below the yarder
a 7 tuck on the skyline
an old yarder set up in scott valley, calif
stehansen
08-05-2007, 10:24 PM
Did you guys weigh the trucks, or calculate the load by the diameter of the wood? Or just eyeball it?
tree lengths being dragged through the "blue ox" de-limber
someone feeding skyline back through the top sheave
and my last job running yarder, sending a saw down
theres air scales under the bunks on the trucks. the drivers know how much weight they can put on each bunk to be legal but maximise their load. some times at the end of a load theyll have the loader move a log forward or back, or throw a small one here or there
on that last truck pic you can see just above the red light on the left a little pancake looking thing, that the scal on that side, theres another on the other side of the bunk to
squisher
08-05-2007, 11:01 PM
Engineer is pretty sweet compared with running the hillside eh. I was trained to run the yarder but rarely got to do it.:(
Cedarkerf
08-05-2007, 11:19 PM
Real nice thread. Wish there were more resources for logging histort on film.
Engineer is pretty sweet compared with running the hillside eh. I was trained to run the yarder but rarely got to do it.:(
i got so sick of it, i wanted to set chokers:|: its the one machine you cant get off of, if the guys blew a whistle, something had to happen. i was getting fat on that thing. once in awhile id get the side rod to spare me but that was rare
Mangoes
08-06-2007, 12:41 PM
Don't know how I stumbled upon this site. Nice read at the end.
http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/hank_rabe_lind.htm
MasterBlaster
08-06-2007, 01:13 PM
Cool site, thanks!
gf beranek
08-06-2007, 06:35 PM
Nice pictures Willie, and some nice trees too. I'm impressed with the ground the Timco was working on. It would scare the heck out of me to be on a machine on that steep of ground. Ever hear the sound a Cat makes when it loses its brakes on ground like that. You can hear it for miles.
They call'em "Bull Pricks" and Shot Gun yarding. The motor-carraiges are so much nicer.
squisher
08-06-2007, 10:06 PM
The motor-carraiges are so much nicer.
Oh so true, I'll never forget the glorious day we got our Eaglet slack puller, man I thought they were gonna make me take a pay cut. :lol:
Mangoes thanks for that link, very cool!
very cool site mangoes! did you guys see the pic where 2 guys are unloading logs with cant hooks? looks a little treacherous!
yeah jerry, thats the setup:D
ive heard cats sliding down rocky hills, is that what you mean?
squisher
08-06-2007, 10:15 PM
There were a few pics in there that looked a little treacherous to me :O .
every day is treacherous on a yarding crew:D
we only ran 1 guy line, when that broke on a hard pull you could hold onto the seat with no hands:D
squisher
08-06-2007, 10:33 PM
every day is treacherous on a yarding crew:D
we only ran 1 guy line, when that broke on a hard pull you could hold onto the seat with no hands:D
One guy line on the yarder? That's crazy we ran four. You know it on the danger nothing like working a intermediate road and hearing that crackle over the radio 'RUNAWAY' and then waiting for death from above to come flying over the ridge. I will always maintain I'm one lucky SOB!
the 188 had 3 but the 3 599 americans had 1 each!
you can just see it in the 4th pic on page 1
squisher
08-06-2007, 10:41 PM
the 188 had 3 but the 3 599 americans had 1 each!
Holy cow, better hope you got a strong stump! Those must be heavy (duty)machines.
On the runaways with limited vis, we'd be getting the play by play as we were running for our lives 'straight down, no it's going your left, no your right, no' run for the nearest big stump and dig in! Next best to the runaways was having a line come apart, we had our skyline let loose a couple of times under load all I can say is 'WOW'.
squisher
08-06-2007, 10:47 PM
you can just see it in the 4th pic on page 1
I see your one guyline now, I still think that's nuts! We had two skyleads and the older one had 3 and the newer one had 4. Did you guys 'wrap' a stump to use two? Or just one stump? And when you say 'broke' you mean pull the stump? We never once broke an actual guyline.
no detailed instructions on our crew, id blow a long whistle as i was kicking the brakes loose!
a skyline parting is wild but that 188 was down right scary. i watched it snake straight up in the air once! also ran across it while it was slack and got flipped into the air by my foot when i was 18.
yeah broke. we pulled stumps to but a break is right now sudden. do you mean half hitch 1 stump and screwy bell another? we did do that on rare occasion. i liked it when i was guyed to a d7g, i always felt more comfortable.
squisher
08-06-2007, 11:01 PM
Worst cable injury I ever had was when I worked for two days on a different yarder crew over a long break-up. It was a swing grapple set-up and I was excited to run the hillside with it but what a haywire crew. We were using strawline to run the guylines up a steep bank on a yarder move and that straw let loose wrapped me around the midsection and drug me aways, my own fault for not being clear enough but I couldn't figure for the life of me why it broke until the idiot buckerman piped up 'oh that don't suprise me last time we were using that line I nicked it with my saw'. You could imagine how impressed I was as I probably could've used some stitches for the cut that cable had put in my arse! not to mention being bruised up from getting drug by it.
Two days on that crew before I met the boss who told me he thought the wage I had demanded was a little high, trying to work me. I was replacing a guy on his crew that was (suprise, suprise) off from being injured at work. No one else on his crew would climb, when I showed up they were stuck yarding little roads at an angle cause they couldn't move until they had a climber, I went down set a spar and then went to unrig the old one laughed my arse off as the guys in the crummy on the way up had all been talking up these real 'high climbing' spars they were using, the rigging was all of 25' in the air. Needless to say I told him not to worry about my 'high wage' as I was done, cable logging with haywires is a recipe for disaster.
squisher
08-06-2007, 11:04 PM
do you mean half hitch 1 stump and screwy bell another?
Yah we'd do that if we were worried about stumps pulling, and ya you only do that backwards once! Choppity chop!
sounds like a cull outfit. brutal on the ribs though! what size guy wire? we ran 1 1/8", sucked dragging it around. i guess that was an up side to running yarder, i had to be on the machine while guy lines were being dragged:D
squisher
08-06-2007, 11:18 PM
We had 1" non-swedge on the skyleads, I don't know what size was on the swing grapple as I only worked there two days. We never had to use a straw for setting our guy lines on the skylead but that was how these guys were doing it on this swing, I was the new guy so was just going with the flow. After working with such a good tight crew it was a real eye-opener to see, these dudes were a cull group to say the least that engineer spent as much time forking around with that yarder as he did actually running it, and only one person to climb? Wtf is with that, were I worked everyone could (if need be) climb except for our buckerman. Oh yah and one newguy near the end he climbed once no more than 10' and nearly got stuck he was so scared :lol: . I shouldn't laugh but man that was funny, young know it all dude had been talking 'er up his first couple of weeks about how easy the climbing looked. He never had much to say after that.
be fun to meet you some time justin. only 600 miles to the conference this year:) you could get you cert!
squisher
08-06-2007, 11:29 PM
At the conference? Corvallis? I'd love to go but probalby not in the cards for me until I dump the station, then I plan on starting to get out a little more.
squisher
08-06-2007, 11:30 PM
You don't get cert'd just for going to a conference do you? You'd still have to write the exam, no?
no but you can sit the test there.
squisher
08-06-2007, 11:34 PM
no but you can sit the test there.
Did not know that, maybe I should read my newsletter a little more closely :lol: I'm a pnw member and like I say really want to start taking advantage of some of the learning opps once I can.
their website has an online event calendar
heres a neat vid of a dangle head processor
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stehansen
11-30-2007, 05:09 PM
The chainsaw is obsolete.
this is interesting
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MasterBlaster
12-01-2007, 11:10 AM
I want a dozerboat!!!
wow this is awesome, 550hp trucks, huge loads and an old cable loader
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part2
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MasterBlaster
12-01-2007, 11:46 AM
Meh, massive trucks, but if it's THAT dangerous they could just not loads the sucker so heavy.
heres a serious mule train, 6 short logs long. never seen 2 loaders load 1 truck
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Meh, massive trucks, but if it's THAT dangerous they could just not loads the sucker so heavy.
watch the second vid, he explains some of the hazard. also it must be a private road or they couldnt haul that kinda weight on it
MasterBlaster
12-01-2007, 11:56 AM
watch the second vid, he explains some of the hazard. also it must be a private road or they couldnt haul that kinda weight on it
But what does that have to do with the price of rice in China? :?
the weight of 3 normal loads on the same amount of tires, axles and brakes. granted their heavy duty but not 3 times. going down steep switch backs, tearing out a differential on a steep corner, rolling trucks on steep ground. it is dangerous even if they are experienced. that was my counter point
Paul B
12-01-2007, 12:15 PM
its fun to go into the woods, not so much near here anymore but a few hours drive and you see the signs on dirt roads in the hills "Active logging operation in the area", translated that means get the hell out of the way if you see / hear a logging truck barrelling down the hill. There isnt much more than a lane and a half of space on most of the back roads, I have had to put my truck into the scrub roadside to let a logger by. I used to have a CB in the truck (they used to put the channel that was in use by the local operation on the sign sometimes) but I think most commercial transport is on VHF or higher these days, harder to monitor.
boboak
12-01-2007, 05:56 PM
Meh, massive trucks, but if it's THAT dangerous they could just not loads the sucker so heavy.
LOL...On off-road rigs you usually load until you run out of saddles. Getting wood down the hill is the main consideration. The off-road trucks are usually spec-ed out to handle the extra weight but the loads are top-heavy and usually side-heavy as well.
Makes for some interesting days.
bergsteiger
12-01-2007, 09:41 PM
its fun to go into the woods, not so much near here anymore but a few hours drive and you see the signs on dirt roads in the hills "Active logging operation in the area", translated that means get the hell out of the way if you see / hear a logging truck barrelling down the hill. There isnt much more than a lane and a half of space on most of the back roads, I have had to put my truck into the scrub roadside to let a logger by. I used to have a CB in the truck (they used to put the channel that was in use by the local operation on the sign sometimes) but I think most commercial transport is on VHF or higher these days, harder to monitor.
They usually spray paint the CB channel on a tree at the beginning of the road.
squisher
12-02-2007, 01:52 AM
Almost all of the camps I worked in on the coast were off-road trucks, the logging roads seemed huge compared to the roads here in the interior, until the first time I saw a off-road low bed come around the corner with a giant yarder on the back. :O
My friends had a lowboy hauling a 188 washington yarder upto a new job a few weeks ago and it rolled over the bank:O 140,000 pounds or so. Wheels up and they were lower than the road. They hauled in a 325 cat loader the excavate the road down 15 feet so they could roll it back on it's wheels. Let it sit a day and got it to fire up. Removed the boom/gantry, made a road to get it up on the road and then hauled it home on another lowboy. Exciting weekend to say the least. They got some good shots so I thought I would share. They used the shovel, a d7 and a d8 with at least 1 block purchase.
stehansen
06-15-2009, 12:18 AM
Wow, was there much damage to anything?
Boom needs to be completely rebuilt, they have another slightly damaged boom. They think they use both to make one. Swing motor is shot. Bunch of tinware is shot. Few other things and i'm sure more will surface as time goes on. That's the first yarder I set chokers under. I also repaired cracks at the base of that boom about 10 years ago. I spent nearly a week airarcing and welding on that sucker
thattreeguy
06-15-2009, 12:26 AM
didnt ya see that boom,
god what a pita,
well thats logging for ya
engineering bastards i tell ya, so man people wouldnt have a clue what to do
bet they have it up or parted out in a few weeks time
i know the old boys i work with tore the boom and cab off the prentice loader and had it up in about 2 weeks, blew me away how quick those fellas can tinker
cool pics willie
NeTree
06-15-2009, 12:29 AM
Holy crap! Now that's a bill I wouldn't wanna have to foot, for sure.
Holy crap! Now that's a bill I wouldn't wanna have to foot, for sure.
lowboys insurance company
stehansen
06-15-2009, 12:45 AM
Oh so that's not his lowboy he was having it moved. Much better.
NeTree
06-15-2009, 12:45 AM
Not for long, I'd bet. :/:
MasterBlaster
06-15-2009, 09:08 AM
I wonder what the total cost of that misadventure was.
gf beranek
06-15-2009, 09:31 AM
Great pics, Willie. Good thing it wasn't raining.
Here it is 9 or 10 years ago after we spent all winter painting it. Then off to work, same lowboy company, maybe the same trailer
Bodean
06-15-2009, 10:34 PM
Awesome pics, looks like fun.
thattreeguy
06-16-2009, 01:53 AM
the lowboy and truck didnt go over with it?
Al Smith
06-16-2009, 08:47 PM
That's about the only way to get a big piece of equipment recovered .With another big piece of equipment or several as be the case .
I imagine that driver might have soiled his BVD's . Perhaps even sought employment elsewhere .
Dave Shepard
06-16-2009, 09:09 PM
Was the driver at fault, or was it just his turn?
gf beranek
06-16-2009, 09:17 PM
Those lowboys cheat like mofo's. You got to have your front wheels in the ditch when making turns like that. He might of been daydreaming.
NeTree
06-16-2009, 09:28 PM
They sure do, Ger.
MasterBlaster
06-16-2009, 09:57 PM
I wonder if he still has his job?
Reddog
06-16-2009, 10:05 PM
MB, alot of those heavy hauling outfits are owner operators. So he would have to fire himself.
Have to wait and see if Willie knows on this one.
He is an employee, I don't think he was fired. I think the jeep hit the high side of the road about the time the trailer hit a low spot on the inside corner. Chance was to blame I beleive
Burnham
06-17-2009, 12:36 PM
hard to beleive but most of that big wood is forest service! recognize the yellow paint burnham?
Not being able to see the pics at all, Willie...how are you attaching them?
MasterBlaster
06-17-2009, 12:43 PM
It appears they are being posted as attachments, as normal.
Burnham
06-17-2009, 01:01 PM
Wonder what's up, then. I can see his pics of the rollover, but not the logging ones...
MasterBlaster
06-17-2009, 01:15 PM
Heck, I didn't go back far enough - I can't see them, either.
Where'd they go???
Burnham
06-17-2009, 01:26 PM
Strange.
MasterBlaster
06-17-2009, 01:32 PM
He either removed them or that server is down.
Orrrrrrr, it could be Obama!
http://www.strategyteam.com/images/suspicious2.jpg
Dave Shepard
06-17-2009, 06:28 PM
Or it was when we lost all those pics awhile back, or did they all get recovered in their proper places?
Burnham
06-17-2009, 06:37 PM
Maybe that's it, Dave.
Dave Shepard
06-17-2009, 06:39 PM
You'll have that with the older posts, all the pics are gone.:(
Burnham
06-17-2009, 06:42 PM
Yup. I didn't think of that.
I noticed that the other day. Think they got lost in last years mishap
Burnham
06-17-2009, 11:57 PM
Too bad...maybe some slow day you could edit them back in.
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