Predator 2007

[Rotax Robert]

Here is where I will post pics from the 2007 season. Some will be cutting some will be people hangin around etc. Pics, vids, what ever...so please enjoy and we'll try and keep it on topic.

Not the best pic but here is the Predator Truck and Hualer

[MasterBlaster]

Thanks, Robert!

[Rotax Robert]

Country Music Television called me a few weeks ago and asked to do a bit on the Predator. Here I am interviewing for an episode on country fried home videos.

[Rotax Robert]

Here I am doing a warmup and prestretching a new chain befor the show. Camera crew was glued to me all day and I had to wear a open mike alday also. That oughta keep the sensors busy.

[Rotax Robert]

This pic is after the show and I promissed Jeff "fishhuntcutwood" that he could run it with me. I have to say he did one heck of a job. "flawless cut jeff" That cut would have won in any show. In fact that is a cmt camera on him, heck he might be famous.

[Paul B]

You go fellas! :) predator rocks!

[Rotax Robert]

Ole Bill and truck were born the same year

The first pic is of a good freind of mine "Ole Bill on the Hill" or to some "Cougar Bill" as a cougar attacked him while he was mowing his lawn one afternoon and no BS here, Bill beat him off with his cane. The second pic is of an old Mack truck that a friend of mine owns. She still runs and was Hauling logs still in the mid 1980's. Guess the year of this baby.

[Rotax Robert]

Here is a pic of me almost getting it done, I took a 2nd place here with a 2.7 second cut. This saw is a 088KD normaly this saw wears a muffler while cutting fire wood but she can rock in a race also.

[Rotax Robert]

Just a pic of the saw resting in her new home.

[MasterBlaster]

Nice! :beer:

[Rotax Robert]

Camera crew stuff, like i said they were in my boots all day.

[Paul B]

you love it and you know it ;)

[Rotax Robert]

Here is a pic of the Toyota and the Newest saw out there. A buddy of mine built this over the winter without anybody knowing and thought he would sneek in and take 1st place. HA, we sent them packin. Both saws made good cuts at around 1.5 sec or so but it's still a mile when you gotta doit in 1 flat.

[Rotax Robert]

I'll post more pics as I get them sent to me or downloaded, should have some great vids soon also.

And Paul B. are calling me a showoff ???

[JamesTX]

Why isn't that Toyota saw using a belly bar? How tight do they have to cinch it up to keep the chain from sagging?

[Paul B]

Rotax, since the biggest saw I own is an 026, I cant really call you anything, you do what you need to do and you kick ass where you can. Predator is top of the food chain, dont let it falter amigo :D

I wanna see yo and big Gary go heads up with comparable saws this summer... :)

[Rotax Robert]

Man I am looking forward to it and it is only about 3 weeks away. I am sure it will be one heck of a battle. The boys from Buckley apparently have been reworking the Binford saw and Gary has been tuning his up also. We did take time this winter to bump the Predator up a bit also. Oh yeah, I almost forgot. I am a showoff. "A big shot is nothing more than a little shot who kept on shooting"

Earth First, my freind...we'll log the other planets later

Rotax:thumbup:

[Paul B]

you boys battle on! :)

[Rotax Robert]

JamesTX, the toyota is wearing a belly bar. it is the inline 4cyl behind the V8 and you are right about one thing his chain was to loose for my comfort. It looked like it was going to fly off while idleing. I will get some video of it cutting and you'll see how scary it looked.

Rotax

[squisher]

Awesome Rotax, frigging awesome.:D

[Magnus]

You must have some serius fun with this!
Just looking at the pic's make me smile for day's!
I wish you and your fellow competitors all the best!

[JamesTX]

JamesTX, the toyota is wearing a belly bar. it is the inline 4cyl behind the V8 and you are right about one thing his chain was to loose for my comfort. It looked like it was going to fly off while idleing. I will get some video of it cutting and you'll see how scary it looked.

Rotax


I see - I had the two saws in the pic confused.

[rbtree]

Robert, do you mind if I add a few shots?

[Rotax Robert]

Roger, your the man who whooped me in tree falling, You are more than welcome to post pics on this thread.

[fishhuntcutwood]

This pic is after the show and I promissed Jeff "fishhuntcutwood" that he could run it with me. I have to say he did one heck of a job. "flawless cut jeff" That cut would have won in any show.

I told you in a PM that I tell anyone who'll listen that Rotax said I made a good cut. Man, I can't thank you enough. You offered to let me run it with you next year, and I'm going to hold you to that. I'll be there. I kid you not, you made my month! People have sent me vids of the Predator via email for a couple of years now saying, "I saw this, and thought of you...." Well, now I can say I've run it.

Robert, you're a gentleman and a sportsman. After talking with you after the show, I'll tell everyone that Rotax Robert is a good guy.

I'm still working on the video. My buddy is having a hard time making it a readable mpeg, and not a DVD.

Here's a couple of pics I posted in the Logging Show thread, but will repost here. And then two from you in '05 I think, at Sequim.

Thanks again.

Jeff

[stehansen]

I'll guess 1912 on the truck.

[Rotax Robert]

I got a call from CMT country music television and the Air Date is set for August 3rd on country fried home videos. I am in the running for the (heres your sign award which is and Extra $1000. I guess voting is done online so everybody needs cast thier votes that night . I'll keep you posted.

Rotax

[Paul B]

just let us know where to vote for you and the Predator Robert. :D

[rbtree]

I tried to shoot video with the little camera and still with the big one, (at the same time) with lousy results:

Robert had to attend his son's HS graduation, so his stand ins ran the Predator

[GASoline71]

It was a good show by Robert's stand ins... They still made a sub-2 second cut. I think it was like 1.79 seconds or something like that. They still took first place in the Unlimited Hot Saw class.

Robert had lost his voice from singing in "church" on Friday night so it was fun to hear him squeak when he talked all weekend long. I didn't know singing in church was that strenuous...;)

Great Job!!!

Gary

[Rotax Robert]

I could use a little help, I need one of our resident experts to post some video and pics for me, I can't do it from this computer but I can e-mail the vids to you to post for me.

Rotax Robert

[darkstar]

Freaking sick. Looks dangerous as well.
Must feel so good to have that pow pow .

[Rotax Robert]

here is a clip

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/e27422b0-d04a-471e-8443-994c01743cdc.htm

[MasterBlaster]

SWEET!

[Rotax Robert]

here is a clip

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/e27422b0-d04a-471e-8443-994c01743cdc.htm


Video seems to take a minute or two to load but it is there.

Rotax

[Rotax Robert]

Here is a better link I hope. I will post some of the other saws in a bit.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6012087128368093246

[Rotax Robert]

This little saw can rip also

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1331491463022731648

[squisher]

Friggn Awesome! :D

[GASoline71]

Love it Robert... :thumbup:

I guess I need to toss some of my vid on Google or somethin'.

Gary

[Rotax Robert]

Here are a couple of pics of the saws resting while I am getting ready for Buckley this weekend.

[Rotax Robert]

I Borrowed this saw from a buddy of mine.

[Rotax Robert]

Always Saftey First, Just incase Gary puts Nitrous back on his saw. :P :P

[GASoline71]

Hey cool... you got Dave Bekkevar's Harley saw! Need a lift partner on the Harley?

I love how that saw sounds like an old flat tracker when it runs.

Gary

[Jonseredbred]

The Harley is a nice lookin saw.

[Rotax Robert]

I do have a partner Gary, but what do you say Sunday we carve the log up a bit for them at the end of the show. A couple of nice upcuts may well be in order.

Rotax

[GASoline71]

I do have a partner Gary, but what do you say Sunday we carve the log up a bit for them at the end of the show. A couple of nice upcuts may well be in order.

Rotax

Deal... I would love to run Dave's saw with ya! Oh yeah... feel free to rob my beer cooler again at Buckley. Maybe I'll be a better host and actually "offer" you a beer instead of you havin' to ask for one... DOH!::oops: :|:

Gary

[Skwerl]

Isn't it awkward trying to run one of those saws when one of the lifters is 2.5' shorter than the other? Maybe you might scrounge up a step stool for Robert...
:lol: :P

[GASoline71]

Isn't it awkward trying to run one of those saws when one of the lifters is 2.5' shorter than the other? Maybe you might scrounge up a step stool for Robert...
:lol: :P

I can always get on my knees...

Oh wait... that didn't sound right...:|: :lol:

Gary

[Rotax Robert]

No worry Gary, I always carry a post hole digger so my lift partners have something to stand in. Knees ??? WTF:O

[GASoline71]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Gary

[Rotax Robert]

Here is this years Deming trophy, I suppose it's a good thing I did win when they put the Predator on the front of the trophies. I think it caused a bit of a stir amoungst the ranks because had I not won somebody was going to have to hang the Predator on thier wall or make kindling out of it.

[Rotax Robert]

spent the morning setting up for the Double Ender race this weekend. Here is a 088kd and Art Martins old 655bp. I got them tached in pretty close. these will be wearing a pipe for the race and I will get to that tommorrow and re-tach them again. these will be the two smallest saws in the show on Double ender setup. We'll see how they do.

[JamesTX]

Why do you flip one? Would it matter if they were offset?

[Rotax Robert]

If you don't you have a double bucking saw.

rotax

[GASoline71]

I'll be in Buckley tomorrow night. We are campin' in the Armory parkin' lot like always. See ya there mang!

Gary

[JamesTX]

Oh yeah - they be running in the same direction. That wouldn't be good.

[Rotax Robert]

got lots of great pics and vids of the Buckley show. Sorry I've not posted, little to no internet at work (moving shops) and worse at home. I'll get them posted soon.

Rotax

[vharrison]

CONGRATULATIONS!

[Blinky]

I had no idea there were saws like this. Waaaay cool. My son's gonna love it.

[GASoline71]

got lots of great pics and vids of the Buckley show. Sorry I've not posted, little to no internet at work (moving shops) and worse at home. I'll get them posted soon.

Rotax

Cool Robert... lookin' forward to the pics!

It was fun to be there runnin' saws with ya again!:thumbup: :thumbup:

Gary

[Rotax Robert]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8275466436298107075

[Rotax Robert]

Rotax and Kevin Hill with the Harley Hotsaw

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4808615828845441778

[Rotax Robert]

Rotax and Ray on Double Ender Hotsaw

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4484726322081435621

[Rotax Robert]

Rotax and Dale on Saturday

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9196871467195239075

[Rotax Robert]

V6 on nitrous saturdays blowup and sundays run


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9126518681467015976

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6236600773867340236

And Somebody better re-sticky this, there is more to come.

Rotax

[MasterBlaster]

No problemo! I'll see if I can make it happen!

[Rotax Robert]

Your DA Man...heading to Forks Wa. for another show in the early morning. more pics and vids from there as well as Buckley comming soon.

Rotax

[MasterBlaster]

Good luck! Kick some asses!

[Skwerl]

Looking great Robert, have fun and cut fast! :D

[GASoline71]

Your DA Man...heading to Forks Wa. for another show in the early morning. more pics and vids from there as well as Buckley comming soon.

Rotax

Good luck my friend... You'll have a chance, 'cause the Termite won't be there... LOL j/k...:lol: Kick some tail!:thumbup:

Mike (my lift partner) and I have a lot to learn. We are havin' fun. Never thought I would be doin' this... It's not as easy as it looks...

Thanks for your advice Robert... see ya at the Island County Fair!

Gary

[fishhuntcutwood]

Well, this is kinda lame, but it's the best I can do. I've got it posted on Myspace, but it works.

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=11739868

[MasterBlaster]

It's not lame, nice!

[Reddog]

I agree, That ain't lame.

Sweet!

[MasterBlaster]

Put it on YouTube so people can embed it!

[Paul B]

thats cool Jeff, good on ya Robert for letting him have a go!

[fishhuntcutwood]

Oh no, it's a cool as hell video, but lame in that we can only seem to get it on Myspace.

I'll talk to Trevin (the guy's camera I used, and the one doing the downloading and such), but it has something to do witht he format or something. We've been trying to get it useable for a while now. I'll see if he can get it to Youtube.

[fishhuntcutwood]

Goddang that sweatshirt makes me look fat!

[Skwerl]

Goddang that sweatshirt makes me look fat!

No Jeff, it's what's under the sweatshirt that makes you look fat. :P

[fishhuntcutwood]

HA! That's it, now I'm gonna have to make a video of my running the Predator with my shirt off so you can see how sveldt I actually am!

[Rotax Robert]

Well here she boys, 25" of hard dry spruce which I named "morning wood" the time was 0.97 seconds. Rotax Robert and Keith Hill at the controls.


http://video.google.com/videouploadfinished?docid=3401622866492576832&cid=40aa621a95e4bb6a

[GASoline71]

Nice Robert!!! That saw never ceases to amaze me! Great cut!

Gary

[Rotax Robert]

Here is my 088 built by Ken Dunn. 4.5 seconds thru a 24" spruce.

http://video.google.com/videouploadfinished?docid=573704351954126929&cid=7d30b2d9d34f34a0

[Rotax Robert]

Here is the 6 cube and under stocksaw. 6.38 seconds in 24" spruce.

http://video.google.com/videouploadfinished?docid=6074243392035738493&cid=7ba858094f0ac82d

[Rotax Robert]

Here are the results from Forks.

1st place. stocksaw 6cid and under 24 inch spruce 6.38 seconds

1st place. Hotsaw 6cid and over 24" spruce 4.50 seconds

1st place. Unlimited Hotsaw 26" spruce 0.97 seconds

2nd place. Axe throw throw off for 1st place against Lee pickett 4 times. he threw 4 bulls I threw 3

Rotax Robert

[fishhuntcutwood]

Well done RR!

[Skwerl]

Kickin ass and takin names, Robert! :thumbup: :blob6:

[Rotax Robert]

Told you that was one hell of a cut Jeff...Nice vid

Rotax

[Rotax Robert]

Here is a vid sent to me from this weekend, I think this was our second cut of the day. Nice log sitting about 33"+ in dia. in 1.70 seconds

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4831245648531187082&q=amboy+wa.&total=9&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=7

Rotax Robert

[Rotax Robert]

Just cuttin here, I think this was the 1st cut out of two. Monster log and havin a bit of fun.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1403420358206459759

Rotax

[Rotax Robert]

Here is Cowboy Sean and Rotax Robert at Amboy doing a final showoff cut after the show. Nothin like having a monster for a lift partner, except for the beer tab.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1403420358206459759

Rotax

[MasterBlaster]

Slicing and dicing!!!

[Al Smith]

Here is my 088 built by Ken Dunn. 4.5 seconds thru a 24" spruce.

I had the pleasure of test driving a KD 090 once at a GTG.Now that guy could build an engine.I'm generally not all that impressed with an 090 but that one was exceptional.

[Rotax Robert]

here is what happens when you hit the nitrous just a bit to early. This is the V6 " American Maid"

http://video.google.com/videouploadfinished?docid=-4100583614617983952&cid=0bf949f19c2ebcd1

[MasterBlaster]

THAT bites!

[Cedarkerf]

That made for some fun watching everybody stand and watch the fire wondering what to do then throwing sawdust on it.

[Rotax Robert]

Here she is making a cut after Saturdays blowup.

http://video.google.com/videouploadfinished?docid=-8660341490775639020&cid=774dd6e0f2c1fdad

[Rotax Robert]

For those who wanna watch the the Predator in action we are going to be on national tv on Friday, August 3rd on Country Fried Home Videos on CMT "county music television"

Rotax

[MasterBlaster]

Cool! Give us a reminder the night before. I wanna see it! :beer:

[gf beranek]

That's coming up soon.

[Rotax Robert]

Depends on your area but is you go to cmt.com and look up country fried home videos the Predator is on episode #305 the bull fighting episode. They cut a great shot of Jeff (fishhuntcutwood) cutting with me as well as my other lift partners.

Rotax

[Jonseredbred]

Wheres the Predator going to be in August??

[fishhuntcutwood]

I saw it, I was on national television!!! Only a few days now until my fan mail starts pouring in from around the globe!

Looked good Rotax. Thanks again for letting me in with ya.

[GASoline71]

Way cool Robert and Jeff!

Jeff... now you'll have to beat the wimmins off with a stick! HAHAHAHA!:lol: :lol: :lol:

I had only competed in 2 log shows with the Termite and was stopped at both shows to sign log show progams...:)

Gary

[fishhuntcutwood]

Maybe not beat them off with a stick...maybe they'll start showing up!

Man, that s### was fun!!!

[MasterBlaster]

Damn! I missed it.

[Rotax Robert]

The show re-airs many times so you will have to look up the schedual at cmt.com and look up country fried home videos and look up the episode #305 bull fight club.

Rotax

[MasterBlaster]

Roger that!

[Tom_Scheller]

Next few days:

http://www.cmt.com/shows/dyn/country_fried_home_videos/series_showtimes.jhtml

TS

[Rotax Robert]

Here is a clip of the cut we made at the Morton Loggers Jubilee. 27" cottonwood.


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[Rotax Robert]

Here is the newest of the V8's this one is out of Darby Montana. Looks like around a 1.7 second cut thru a 20" Log. WOW!!! These boys are going to get thier A$$'s handed to them. Hope they read this :P :P :P

Rotax Robert

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBNbHmmj_iQ

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[fishhuntcutwood]

Chumps I say!!! What'd we do Robert? Wasn't it like 1.1 through 28"?

All I know is I'm already looking forward to Sequim next year, hoping you'll let me run again....;)

[Rotax Robert]

Your on man. No Problem, Maybe we can get those boys to come over :lol:

Rotax

[fishhuntcutwood]

Sweet! Just like last May, I'm gonna hold you to that!!!

Hell, I'm already looking forward to it.

[newguy18]

I wonder what the predator would do to old growth redwood?:D :evil: :/:

[GASoline71]

The Termite will be down to fightin' weight next year... :wall:

See ya there!

Gary

[newguy18]

Good luck Gary.

[Rotax Robert]

Right on Gary, lookin forward to it. I like a good fight with good freinds.

Rotax

[gf beranek]

With that much HP how do you keep from breaking the chains?

[Rotax Robert]

I don't get many cuts out of my chain as it tends to stretch out of pitch. I have only ever broke one chain but that was more my fault than the chains. ie: I was a rookie unlimited cutter at the time. I shorten my chains one link and keep using them for demo's etc. but always race with a newer chain.
The chain is the weak link "no pun intended"

Rotax

[newguy18]

I would hate to get hit by one of those chains flying or breaking.:O :cry:

[Rotax Robert]

Meet... Jack "The Knife" Predator Mascot and in charge of public relations.

[Rotax Robert]

Another of Jack

[newguy18]

Can i pet him?

[Rotax Robert]

small block logtruck, this is A buddies of mine and yes it does killer smoke-shows

[Rotax Robert]

Notice the color cooridination of beer device and Logtruck.

[Rotax Robert]

Holy Smokes I finaly figured out how to re-size my pics to fit and I have thousands to share with you.

Rotax Robert

[MasterBlaster]

That is a most awesome Log Truck!!! :beer:

[Rotax Robert]

another

[Rotax Robert]

Here is a few of my hauler

[Rotax Robert]

Harley Saw

[Rotax Robert]

Here is the BBQ my buddy Dave feeds over 1000 people at the end of saw season.

[Rotax Robert]

This was at Morton Washington, almost brought a tear to my eye when he parked next to me

[Rotax Robert]

Just a side note but I am going to be in Port Angeles for another season final party and yeah the Big saws are going to be there.

Holy smokes this sure gets my post count up.

Rotax

[Rotax Robert]

Heres me practicing for rodeo, some how I think BEER was involved. The big guy in the Back ground is my identicle twin brother Dave he stands 7' 2"

[Paul B]

Dave needs longer britches.

Rotax, do you ride your pony with or without spurs? :P

[xtremetrees]

Rotax could you funnel the discharge of the chips to shoot verticle and eventually rain down on the operator after the cut is finished....I dont mean to propose something unsafe only more spectuacular for the viewers but I doubt witht he sound of it you dont need it. Great photos and vids.

[GASoline71]

Rotax could you funnel the discharge of the chips to shoot verticle and eventually rain down on the operator after the cut is finished....I dont mean to propose something unsafe only more spectuacular for the viewers but I doubt witht he sound of it you dont need it. Great photos and vids.

You ever had sawdust from a normal size saw in your shorts Robert (xtremetrees)?:what:

Now just think of chips twice to three times that size stuck all over you... It would not be comfy... trust me.

Stand behind the Termite when it isspittin' chips out the ass end... you'll kow what I mean.

I missed Bekkfest this year Robert (Killswitch Bobby). Too many things goin' on to get over that way. I will try next year as I did get the invite from Dave at Deming.:)

Gary

[fishhuntcutwood]

Just a side note but I am going to be in Port Angeles for another season final party and yeah the Big saws are going to be there.

Holy smokes this sure gets my post count up.

Rotax

When's that?

[fishhuntcutwood]

Dave needs longer britches.

Nah, those are old school falling britches.

But you knew that didn't ya? ;)

[GASoline71]

When's that?

It was labor day weekend Jeff. Dave Bekkavar (owner of the orange Harley hot saw) has a big shin-dig every year over there near your place Jeff.

I was invited to go this year by Dave and was not able to attend. There's always next year!

Gary

[fishhuntcutwood]

No, RR said he's "going" to be in P.A. and that was a day ago, so it's still to happen....

Labor Day....hmm, I was on the Sol Duc.

[Rotax Robert]

Got's Lots of pics and video from the show last night. I probably wont show it here because the times were way too fast for the camera. I'll see what I can do to slow the video down enough for you folks to follow along.

:D
ROTAX ROBERT

[newguy18]

Can't wait to see what the predator did.

[Rotax Robert]

Here is nice saw

[MasterBlaster]

Is that hydraulic or pneumatic?

Wait, now I see the title...

[Jonseredbred]

Looks like its part impact wrench. Must be worm drive??

[Rotax Robert]

another

[Rotax Robert]

and another with Rotax at the helm

[Rotax Robert]

pneumatic saw

[Rotax Robert]

saw

[Rotax Robert]

Here is real can crusher driven off the cam so say 500 rpm on the crank gives 250 rpm at the cam into a 12:1 gear reduction to another 12:1 gear reduction and you can crush a beer can every every 17 minutes.

[Rotax Robert]

another

[Rotax Robert]

I forget the year of this one, I like the log reach

[Rotax Robert]

Here also they feed around a 1000 people

[Rotax Robert]

another

[Rotax Robert]

and another

[Rotax Robert]

Here is a pic of my buddies woodstove, is this cool or what

[Rotax Robert]

another

[MasterBlaster]

Sweet! Is it just a prop?

[Rotax Robert]

v6 ford

[Rotax Robert]

Here I treid to freeze frame to show how wild the chain gets on the V6

[newguy18]

I don't know if I would want my face that close to that chain it might be unsafe.:D

[squisher]

Cool pics Robert! Thanks for posting those.8)

[Rotax Robert]

Here is me playing Stihl Guitar with the band. I did get up and sing a few sets but it was starting to get drunk out by this time.

[Rotax Robert]

stihl going

[Rotax Robert]

blah blah blah

[Rotax Robert]

Sweet! Is it just a prop?


The wood stove works great, not a prop.

[squisher]

lmfao :lol: Looks like you weild a mean axe Robert!

[MasterBlaster]

The wood stove works great, not a prop.


I mean, it's not a functioning locomotive.

[Rotax Robert]

I mean, it's not a functioning locomotive.

gott ya, no they ran out of track so it just sits there and keeps you warm.

Rotax

[Rotax Robert]

Having a cold one after a hard days racing

[Rotax Robert]

here is a few old saws

[Rotax Robert]

Here is a couple of the girls on the Harley

[Rotax Robert]

Here is a pic I borrowed from rbtree after the buckley show.

[Rotax Robert]

Gruntin

[Rotax Robert]

Double Ender Race

[Rotax Robert]

chipsoflyin

[fishhuntcutwood]

Now Rotax, you've told me before, but I forget (and I've had a few beer-o's tonight): That's a 066/088, right? Or is it 084/088? I seem to remember them being different saws. How do you match them? The 660's powerband resides at a differnt place (RPM) than the 880's.

I promise, I won't ask again....

[Rotax Robert]

These were 088 kd and a 046 kd I have ran 088/084 and 088/066 also. Never lost this race yet with any combination.

Rotax

[Rotax Robert]

more chips

[fishhuntcutwood]

How do you match them? RPM's? Can you use 7 or 8 pin rims to help tune them?

I knew they were KD's. I got that part right!

[fishhuntcutwood]

These pics Rotax....I'm already pumped for Sequim next year!

[squisher]

Heh that pic stolen from Rb, is there actually a guy in the back there taller than Gary?:O

[newguy18]

Heh that pic stolen from Rb, is there actually a guy in the back there taller than Gary?:O

Taller than Gary?oh shit could it be Frankenstein?

[Rotax Robert]

Heh that pic stolen from Rb, is there actually a guy in the back there taller than Gary?:O


Yup, that would be "Tractor Dave" my identical twin brother from another mother. He stands about 7' 1" or so. Hell of a lift partner. I just get tired of digging the postholes that he has to stand in when we cut. :roll:

Rotax

[Rotax Robert]

Hmmmm, can't find the right pic right now but here is one I posted a page or 2 ago. Behind the girl running the Harley saw facing you is Tractor Dave and on the right of the screen behind the Predator is one of my lift partners Kevin who is 6' 1". Yessireee, he is a BIG man.

Rotax Robert

[GASoline71]

I'm 6'5" and don't have to look up to talk to many men... But Tractor Dave is one of them. :)

Gary

[Rotax Robert]

Now Rotax, you've told me before, but I forget (and I've had a few beer-o's tonight): That's a 066/088, right? Or is it 084/088? I seem to remember them being different saws. How do you match them? The 660's powerband resides at a differnt place (RPM) than the 880's.

I promise, I won't ask again....


Jeff, I have ran these double-enders for a while. 088/046 on above quote

I started with a 088 kd/ 084 rr (ken dunn) (rotax robert)
for the first few years.

The next couple years was a 088 kd/ 066rr "no pipe on 066".

Last year I ran a 088 kd/ 046 kd

None of the above saws match eachothers power band nor do they have too. I found that a dead match is actualy a hinderance, they need to compliment eachother. ie: A speed demon saw on pipe can be helped by a good muffler'd saw, as an example.

On my setups I am putting a saw with a boatload of hp with a saw that has a truckload of torque, and yes you can sprocket up or down to compliment what you are trying to achieve. I can't give all my secrets here as Gas71 will run and tell all the Buckley boys.

I will say though that when a 088/046 setup hands a pair of 090's thier A$$ something is going right. Wait till they see my 088kd/3120kd double-ender.

Rotax Robert

[Rotax Robert]

I'm 6'5" and don't have to look up to talk to many men... But Tractor Dave is one of them. :)

Gary

6'5" / 5'6" whats the diff.

Big Friggin Deal, I am only 18 inches short of 7 feet :D

Rotax

[squisher]

:lol: At some time or other in my life I'm gonna have to make it down to one of your guy's shows sounds like a blast!:thumbup:

[Paul B]

Big Friggin Deal, I am only 18 inches short of 7 feet :D

Rotax

Thanks for the laugh Rotax! :D

[GASoline71]

:lol: At some time or other in my life I'm gonna have to make it down to one of your guy's shows sounds like a blast!:thumbup:

You're welcome around my campfire anytime Justin... :thumbup:

Gary

[Rotax Robert]

This saves the old back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE1YGr6ylbY

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[newguy18]

Robert how heavy is the predator?

[Rotax Robert]

Here's a few chips being made

[fishhuntcutwood]

Rotax, what are the odds of me running that saw at Sequim next May after the show?

Say "no" and it's cool. I totally, entirely understand a man's saw is a man's saw, but I figger'd I'd ask. I've never run a piped saw. I was going to run RB's piped 5100 last year, but never got around to it.

[GASoline71]

Hey Jeff you can run my saw anytime!

Oh wait... I doesn't have a pipe on it...:|:

Gary

[fishhuntcutwood]

If you're gonna be at Sequim, I'm gonna hit you up for a run on the Termite...ya know, so I can objectively compare the two V8's. ;)

[GASoline71]

If you're gonna be at Sequim, I'm gonna hit you up for a run on the Termite...ya know, so I can objectively compare the two V8's. ;)

No sweat... Robert's will be faster. However... we are tryin' a few things that will hopefully put us a little faster next year.

I might even have a "stock" type hot saw to compete with next year too.

Gary

[fishhuntcutwood]

Next year will be my last year before I transfer, so I might just run for the helluvit.

[GASoline71]

Next year will be my last year before I transfer, so I might just run for the helluvit.

You're in like Flynn mang!:)

Gary

[Rotax Robert]

No Problem Jeff, Your on for the Predator or any other saw I have. 088kd, 3120kd, 655bp and a 046kd...You can takem all for a test drive and that is a promise. :thumbup:

And Gary, I know you have something up your sleave an don't try and BS me into thinking you dont. I know darn well you are comming out to hand me my A$$ on a silver platter, but my sleaves are full also :P :P :P

Rotax Robert

[fishhuntcutwood]

Goddang, thanks Rotax.

[Rotax Robert]

Thinking about starting a new project. Here is what I am thinking.

I thought the Predator could use a tow vehicle for parades etc. I am thinking about building another engine identicle in every way to the Predator and stuffing it in a lawnmower. I could then put the Predator on a small trailer and tow it around for parades etc.

Also I would'nt mind using it for lawnmower drags and lawnmower tractor pulls.
Just a thought but I am thinking it would be one hell of a cool toy.

Rotax Robert 8)

[fishhuntcutwood]

That would be hella cool, and from a practical standpoint, it'd be nice to have one engine platform to work with, as far as parts availability and supply. But I doubt the tow vehicle would run as hard as the saw, huh?

It'd be hard to catch traction in a mower with that much power wouldn't it? I'd think it'd almost be too much, and would maybe think of a rear or center mount. I dunno....just thinking out loud.

[Al Smith]

I am thinking about building another engine identicle in every way to the Predator and stuffing it in a lawnmower. I could then put the Predator on a small trailer and tow it around for parades etc.

Also I would'nt mind using it for lawnmower drags and lawnmower tractor pulls.
Just a thought but I am thinking it would be one hell of a cool toy.

Rotax Robert 8) I actually saw the very early turboed version of that Buck engine on a mini puller once.It sounded odd pulling against 350 Chevys running headers because going through the turbro muffled most of the sound.

[Al Smith]

It'd be hard to catch traction in a mower with that much power wouldn't it? I'd think it'd almost be too much, and would maybe think of a rear or center mount. I dunno....just thinking out loud. You would be surprised how much a mini puller can pull.Using a transfer sled they use the same rolling traction theory that the 12,000 pound unlimited pullers use.I wouldn't be a bit surprised that their hole shots are spinning the tires at 100 miles per hour.Ha,I pulled the antiques and the tractor in high gear would barely make 20 MPH.

[Rotax Robert]

For those who wanna see the Predator in action, country fried home videos is airing the episode that fishkillsthingswithwood and myself are in on Saturday 10/13 @ 11:30 pm and again on Sunday 5:00 pm on country music television

[fishhuntcutwood]

fishkillsthingswithwood

:lol:

[squisher]

Yah somebody please record this and get it up on you tube or something where I can check it out. I have no tv reception/hook-up.

[Rotax Robert]

this is from a couple of years ago I think, Got a bunch of new vids from other shows people sent me but they zipper'd them ofr something like that. Anyway here it is.

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[squisher]

Sweet man, what a wild machine!

[Rotax Robert]

Ha, I just fugured out how tap into the PA system here at work and sent them some audio of the Predator tearing through a log, and yes I had it cranked.

[Skwerl]

Oh chit! How many people are working right now, and how many of those are capable of firing you?
:O

[Rotax Robert]

Nah, they aint gunna fire me, one of the jacks that plugs into the mic and speakers just happens to be next to my puter. Besides the guys liked it. oh yeah, about 300 people

[Rotax Robert]

088kd + 046kd

[MasterBlaster]

So the powerheads can be mixed up like that? Does that make it worse or better?

[Rotax Robert]

Just have to make them sing together. when they're tuned right, a pair of saws will sing to you (any pair) 088/84...088/066...088/046 they did not like my 088/3120 combo cuz the 3120 has a problem with its jug, kinda a two piece, but it is way friggin fast. Of all the doubles out there, mine sound just a little bit different, and no I aint fuelin them. It has to be a match. Not braggin to much here, but it aint bad when you can take a 088 and 046 (both kd wood saws) against a pair 090's (race saws) and hand them thier a$$ on a silver platter

[MasterBlaster]

It suprises me that a saw can operate upside down. I've always found a saw that was sitting upside down hard as hell to start.

[Rotax Robert]

Funny how the season ended only a month or so ago and I am already getting a itchy trigger finger.

[Rotax Robert]

here is a pic sent to me out of the blue. I aint never seen this one. This goes back about 5 or 6 years 088/084 paired up. These saws rocked

[MasterBlaster]

That's damn cool, Robert! :beer:

[fishhuntcutwood]

Hells yeah it is!

[Rotax Robert]

The Predator will be on TV 11-08-07 at 6pm on country music television "CMT"

[billcutstrees]

I'll make plans to watch it.

[Rotax Robert]

I don't think I posted this one 088kd/046kd this mofo flies

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4484726322081435621

[MasterBlaster]

That's fast, but it's no Predator! ;)

[Rotax Robert]

Here is what happens to a 24" dia cottonwood and why we like to cut on 30" and bigger. This was just an impromtue drinkin and cutin session.
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[Rotax Robert]

This was this fall when a bunch of the boys from the City Hall Saloon came down to help me make some chips.

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[MasterBlaster]

Hahaha!

WHOO!!! :beer:

[Rotax Robert]

I can't find the one where me and my regular lift partner showed them how it is realy done on a small log we were .2 faster than these cuts. These were a bunch of old stretched out chains that I decided to use up and would'nt use in a full blown race.

[squisher]

Awesome! Man that beast looks like a rush!:evil:

[Paul B]

WHOO! :D

[Rotax Robert]

Don't forget tommorrow 11-8-07 at 6pm on CMT "countryfried home vieos" will be airing the Predator with fishhuntkillsthingswithwood and myself.

[Paul B]

we only get CMT canada up here :(
not the same sched or feed as your CMT methinks.

[squisher]

I get nothing, and no one has managed to record one of these shows yet and get it up on youtube or something :what: . I'm starting to get rather dissapointed in this day and age of technology and all.

[Rotax Robert]

Hell, I have'nt even seen it, surely some body can tape the darn thing for me.
PLEASE

[fishhuntcutwood]

Rotax, I betcha you can get 'hold of CMT, tell them who you are, that you're the feature of one of their shows, and they ought to at least send you a clip or something.

[squisher]

Well in that case you could too, couldn't you Jeff? You guys is famous!8)

[fishhuntcutwood]

Nah, Rotax the star. I'm just a fringe groupie!!! :lol:

[Cedarkerf]

It was on at 3:00 (satelite) came in at 3:15 and got the segmant on DVD. Works on the DVD player but not the computer so have to see if it will work for you. I'm just over here in Selleck so just a few minutes away if you wan't me to drop it off. Looked good tho.

[squisher]

Awesome! Someone will know how to get that up on the net sooner or later and then we can all see it. Thanks Cedarkerf!:thumbup:

[Jonseredbred]

Quit being so frickin cheap Squish and buy a TV.

[squisher]

Frig that man I got a tv and a half. But I refuse to pay to be advertised to and beyond that I don't even bother grabbing the couple free channels that are floating through the air, tv ads are poison for the mind. I only watch what I choose to watch.8)

[Rotax Robert]

Right on Cedarkerf, I'll get with you over the weekend. I'll pm you for directions. I'll get a few of the boys working on getting it into the right format. Got an old buddy down at radio shed who'll fix me right up.

[Cedarkerf]

Ok sounds good

[GASoline71]

Cool Brian... thanks for catchin' that! 8)

Gary

[fishhuntcutwood]

Well, a guy at work told me he DVR'd it, and yesterday he told me it was posted on Google, but I can't find it. I don't know if it's just the segment, or the whole show or whatever. And being part of the show, they may have already removed it due to copyrights or whatever. I'll talk to him again later this week.

We'll see.

[Rotax Robert]

Buckley Log Show putting on the belt drive after warmup

[MasterBlaster]

Where'd that 28" waist geaux?