The Crushing of the Blaster.

[MasterBlaster]

OK, check the attachment, and I'll 'splain this as best as I can.

When I hooked the tubular sling at point C. I knew it would probably slide up because it was a smaller (about 8 or 9 inches) smooth trunk. This wasn't much of a concern because I originally was gonna cut it at point B where a 2or 3 foot slippage would be harmless. If it happened it would be moving towards the crane and away from ME.
Like I said, harmless.

Anywho. as I was about to cut point B, the crane operator said to come on down and cut it at the base. Normally I would do that, but that woulda required me to call a groundie over to help with a tagline so the butt wouldn't hit the fence, and they were rear-ends and elbows deep cleaning up. We were kinda rushing because we wanted to knock this job out so we could do another that day. I was just gonna cut it higher (point B) and be done with it, but it WOULD be nice to take it in one lift so I called over a groundie, set a tagline and proceeded.
It would have been an easy day. :(

Here's where I made my main mistake - I FORGOT/DIDN'T THINK!!!

I didn't factor in the extra weight that was gonna be loaded on the sliding sling. The second it came off stump, the sling slid up to those forks before stopping, causing the butt to shoot to the ground. MY MISTAKE was forgetting about the slip potential of the sling, and having my foot under the load PLUS having debris around the base of the tree.
I tried to jerk my leg outta the way, but I failed. It caught the outside of my left foot, a glancing blow. I really don't know how hard it hit, and it was immediately lifted. It kinda bounced when it hit and I'm sure (even though originally they hindered me) the logs and crap plus my spurs helped to keep my foot from taking the full force of the load.

Thankfully, there was no nerve/blood vessel damage of any consequence. And again, thankfully, the three broken bones (2 metatarsals and the heel) were clean breaks that were still in position and therefore no surgery was necessary. It blew out the sides of my feet, so they sewed it up with about 40 stitches. I'm is a splint cast at the moment and on mar 9 I go back for a real cast and a check-up. THAT is when I'll know for sure what is up.

My mistakes as I see them;

1) I was under the load.

2) I completely forgot about the slipping potential. The bar was 2" too short, so I was having a hard time finishing the cut. I put myself in an akward position in an attempt to finish the cut. I also assumed it would be like any other lift - just raise and float away.

3) I was under the load.

4) I used the wrong tool (short bar) to make the cut.

5) I should have stuck to my original plan of cutting it at point B

6) I was UNDER THE LOAD!




So there you go. I feel I'm getting better every day, hence me being able to sit here for this long at the keyboard. All I've been doing since it happened is staying knocked out on meds and keeping my leg elevated. I still can't stay at the keyboard for very long.


I truely appreciate all of your well wishs, it means a LOT TO ME.




:)

[che]

good description, Butch....even I could follow/understand. glad you're able to 'write home' about it.....

[vharrison]

I feel I'm getting better every day, :)

Hey, that is the main thing, getting better! Oh, and get out from under the load next time. We are just all glad you are going to be alright.

[Brock2saws]

Sorry to hear that Butch. I'm glad you're gonna be alright in the end.

Heal fast,
BAB

[Thor's Hammer]

Man, that sucks. I feel for you.
good lesson, I hope you heal up quick.

[TC3]

I'm like a kid, all antsy to know, "Wha' happened, wha' happened ???"
Then you tell us & I'm like, "Oh."
Sh*t happens so fast. I'm just really, really glad you're going to be O.K., Butch.
Last night at the grocery store I backed into a parked van behind me while I was backing out of my parking spot. I've never been in a car accident, it was just a split second of distraction and an icy parking lot. A man was unloading groceries into the back of his van, and the only thing that saved his legs from getting crushed was the grocery cart between us. I couldn't stop shaking, nearly brought to my knees by the good fortune of that cart. Shit happens so fast.

[Climber020]

Just make sure you take it easy. No use in rushing it to make things worse. I know all too many tree guys that rush an injury cause they need the money, only to end up making things worse.

So if you need anything, give us a yell. You have plenty of buds here.

[pantheraba]

I'm glad it came out as well as it did.

Thanks for the details and analysis...good lessons for all of us.

And Climber020 has it right...don't rush things...in the tree or when healing.

[Tree Guy's Wife]

Thanks for sharing what happened, and to second Che, in a way even I could understand.

Heal quickly!

[sotc]

glad to read ya butch. weve all done something that weve got away with,i guess once in awhile we dont. heal up

[Stumper]

Good explanation. Bad situation. Heal fast and well.

[stehansen]

Good explanation. Hope you heal soon.

[RIVERRAT]

Butch GREAT explanation as to what happened. Based on your description I am happy for you it wasn't worse. Your down time would for me, mentally be hard to take. Stay Happy!!

Crap happens. If we are fortunate enough we learn from it...... I have & just did.

[darkstar]

All i can say is OUCH.

[MasterBlaster]

Yea, me too! :whine:

[Frans]

Ouch! 40 stitches! Ouch!
I guess your boot kept the injury from being even worse.
Man take care of that.

Also dont eat too much while laying around.

[Burnham]

Sure thinking about you these days, Butch. Hoping you heal well and fast.

[pete mctree]

Bad situation. Just heal well!!!!

[TheTreeSpyder]

Hate to hear this dude! Remember old farts heal slower (so remember that when you get older).

It is my preferance to make small humboldt(s) to bed the sling or rope into when there is no branch or swell to dawg it choke against.

[squisher]

Shit luck man, rest up and heal up. Thanks for sharing your lesson so new guys like me can learn from it.:thumbup:

[Buzz]

Ouch Butch I bet that made your eyes water i did a similar thing lowering once luckly the branch stuck in a crotch so i didn't take the full weight on my foot.

Get well soon matey :)

[Paul B]

heal up good Butch. and watch that grub intake whilest on the mend ;) Thanks for being honest and having the guts to post what happened, lets all take a moment today and learn from it.

[MasterBlaster]

Thanks guys! I think all will be well. :beer:

[SteveBullman]

i hope your spurs are ok!
just kidding, just shows how quick things can happen that can affect our lives so much.....hope you're up and about soon mate!

[Hobby Climber]

Geez Butch, sorry to hear about your foot & all. Heal up fast and be more carefull nex time! Ya got a bunch of friends here who are concerned and are glad your OK. HC

[treelooker]

Thanks for taking the time to teach a valuable lesson.

pm me your mailing address and i'll send you some loaner reading material for when you get sick of the tv.

[High Scale]

Hope you heal quickly old geezer, best wishes to ya.

[GASoline71]

Thanks for describing the incident Butch. I wish you a speedy recovery my friend.

It does/can happen... even to the BEST in the business.

Now I know I'm stayin' on the ground.

Take care mang!:)

Gary

[JamesTX]

Glad you're going to by ok MB. Amazing how quickly accidents happen.

[Skwerl]

Slipping chokers can hurt! If I don't have a fork or nub to prevent slippage, I'll take two wraps with it. Although those tuflex slings don't slip much. Steel chokers can be a PITA.

Heal well, Buddy. 8)

[jamie]

shit man, that aint good, hope you heal quick and well

Jamie

[Big A]

hope you make a full and speedy recovery, Butch, another valuable lesson to all, and well described!

[Newfie]

I got the pucker just thinking about your foot blowing out the sides.

Heal up and rest easy.

[roller]

get better soon..

[Al Smith]

It could have been worse,glad it was not.Let me however caution you about a crush injury to an extremety.I'm sure you already know that extremeties are prone to infection,yourself being a some-what student of medicine in the past.

I'll give the Dutch uncle talk now ,take extreme care not to get infection in that foot .That said,I hope for your speedy recovery.

[TC3]

I got the pucker just thinking about your foot blowing out the sides.
Jayzus, me too ! I missed that (tiny) detail ?!? Forty stitches, lawd... and a blow-out means jaggedy skin, no clean slices there. Justdammitman.
:whine:

[vharrison]

I'll give the Dutch uncle talk now ,take extreme care not to get infection in that foot .That said,I hope for your speedy recovery.

Dutch Aunt talk: do what the uncle says! Very proud of you MB, by all accounts on you not being on line, you are following doctors orders. We miss you on line though. Keep that foot elevated and tell the kitty cats to clean their litter boxes! Ah, you have Doc for that, never mind :lol:

[MasterBlaster]

I wonder if I should post this at the Buzz/move the thread to the Garage?

And I DID have two wraps, Brian.

[Paul B]

be steeled for the toungue lashing that you will get from it, regardless of actual cause/effect. If you do keep it here it will seem like you are trying to hide it though, more fuel for the fokkers. when you are ready, bring it out, ignore the bull and take it from there Boss.

[darkstar]

Naw, Leave the thread where it is bro. Do, post it elsewhere though.

My foots been hurtin all day Butch. That split effect is ohhgggaa..

Hey i got 17 staples and 37 internal stiches once from a chain saw buried in the back of my calf.

You rock MB...

It happens to us all TREE MEN AND WOMEN.

Tree work without injury ever ? , Nonsense.

Heal fast and have a shot for me would ya?

Dark

[Skwerl]

And I DID have two wraps, Brian.

Man, that sucks Bro. Heal strong and leave a spare set of keys to the forum for Gigi so next time there's somebody to sweep out the trash while you're away.
;)

[chucky]

Anywho. as I was about to cut point B, the crane operator said to come on down and cut it at the base. Normally I would do that, but that woulda required me to call a groundie over to help with a tagline so the butt wouldn't hit the fence, and they were rear-ends and elbows deep cleaning up. We were kinda rushing because we wanted to knock this job out so we could do another that day. I was just gonna cut it higher (point B) and be done with it, but it WOULD be nice to take it in one lift so I called over a groundie, set a tagline and proceeded.
It would have been an easy day. :(

Here's where I made my main mistake - I FORGOT/DIDN'T THINK!!!

I didn't factor in the extra weight that was gonna be loaded on the sliding sling. The second it came off stump, the sling slid up to those forks before stopping, causing the butt to shoot to the ground. MY MISTAKE was forgetting about the slip potential of the sling, and having my foot under the load PLUS having debris around the base of the tree.
I tried to jerk my leg outta the way, but I failed. It caught the outside of my left foot, a glancing blow. I really don't know how hard it hit, and it was immediately lifted. It kinda bounced when it hit and I'm sure (even though originally they hindered me) the logs and crap plus my spurs helped to keep my foot from taking the full force of the load.

Thankfully, there was no nerve/blood vessel damage of any consequence. And again, thankfully, the three broken bones (2 metatarsals and tha heel) were clean breaks that were still in position and therefore no surgery was necessary. It blew out the sides of my feet, so they sewed it up with about 40 stitches. I'm is a splint cast at the moment and on mar 9 I go back for a real cast and a check-up. THAT is when I'll know for sure what is up.

My mistakes as I see them;

1) I was under the load.

2) I completely forgot about the slipping potential. The bar was 2" too short, so I was having a hard time finishing the cut. I put myself in an akward position in an attempt to finish the cut. I also assumed it would be like any other lift - just raise and float away.

3) I was under the load.

4) I used the wrong tool (short bar) to make the cut.

5) I should have stuck to my original plan of cutting it at point B

6) I was UNDER THE LOAD!






Geezus, I don't believe in psychic shit but something funny told me to check into the tr'ousers tonight. Butch, sounds real painful, but good to hear it isn't worse, much worse.

I know nothing of crane work, and I see what what you mean when you list
the things that you did wrong, but to me it all comes from your above statement in red. And we've all done it. Rushed it.

Thanks for posting this for everybody, a lesson to the young hotdogs that even the masters can make mistakes, and to always think safety first.

Won't be long and you'll be right back doing the big work, Butch.

[No_Bivy]

:\: wow! I hear ya, under the load!. Speedy recovery MB. Got any pics?:D

[NickfromWI]

MB- thanks for manning-up and sharing it with us. We all hope you get back in the trees soon, but you better give yourself the right time to heal.

I say post it on treebuzz.

love
nick

[pantheraba]

I agree with Nick...we're all human. Times I have gotten hurt I was usually distracted or rushing. Your lesson may help somebody else make good decisions.

[tntree]

blew the side out, makes me think of that squashed turtle on the side of the road. Yuck and owwweeee. . . like biv said any gory pics? heal up, when you pull those stitches make sure you end up with "she loves me"

"Under the load" and "kinda in a hurry" sticks out -- good red flags to remember. If some of the Buzz can't look at it as a learning tool, then fug em, post it

[No_Bivy]

MB, I will remember this.Sorry it happened to you.

[Old Monkey]

If you do post picts of your foot please take pity on those of us with a sensitive nature by adding a warning.

[Bodean]

Gnarly Butch,

Gnarly bones breakin, blowin out the sides.

Get well Soon.

I guess a foot is better than your head.

I'd say post at the Buzz.
It's a great example of how Rushing only hurries Ruin.

[Paul B]

I guess a foot is better than your head.

now THAT is some cool bedside manner... :) HA!

[Bodean]

I shoulda added one of the Rye emoticons.
:)

Butch, Heal up soon. For Reals.

[fishhuntcutwood]

Man, get well Butch. Good of you to share this with us as a reminder and so maybe one of us can avoid it in the future.

Thanks Boss. Keep yourself on the mend!!!

Jeff

[sawinredneck]

Damn glad it wasn't worse Butch!! I can't even imagine how bad that would hurt! I thought cutting my thumb off was bad, then I needed a root canal, that thumb was a walk in the park:lol:
Heal up soon, and STAY OFF OF IT!!
Andy

[No_Bivy]

Hey MB, what type of chokers were you using?(flat nylon, tuflex, steel) Did the bark fail causing them to slip? Just curious, not judging or nothin'. Foot feeling any better yet.

[MasterBlaster]

Just curious, not judging or nothin'.


No problemo, anybody ask anything.

It was a round continuous sling. The tree was smooth barked, and I knew there was a probability of slippage. Cutting it where I originally wanted to cut it would have been no problem. It was the additional 5 or 6 hundred pounds that was added when I made the cut lower that greatly increased the slippage.

[Frans]

You already said that, mb.

[MasterBlaster]

Excellent post, Frans. Thanks.

[darkstar]

Ha,
its good to see you back here MB along with your great sense of humor , you must be feeling a tad bit better.
Man werent you in shock when you saw your foot blown out?
Me and the crew were talking about it today.Yooooweeee
You must have strong bones bro to only get 3 breaks.
Thank the Lord for that one to.
Jerr

[Bearclaw]

Wow,

Hope you heal fast! The best knowledge is gained through the misfortune of others, (unfortunately) because after hearing or seeing what happened to them, your sure as hell not gonna do it!

It's hard to expect the unexpected (I know you knew it would prolly happen) but there are alot of times, you wouldn't even think of it happening until it actually did.

Any pics?

[Ryan]

Best wishes.

[rbtree]

Slipping chokers can hurt! If I don't have a fork or nub to prevent slippage, I'll take two wraps with it. Although those tuflex slings don't slip much. Steel chokers can be a PITA.

Heal well, Buddy. 8)

Actually, logging chokers are quick to set. I always use two. Guaranteed to bite better than fabric slings.

Butch, sorry to hear of your mishap. Hope it heals well.

I've been so busy that I never reported on my injury, from about a month ago. Chipper valve for feed rollers fw/reverse was acting up, and I tried something stupid to get the feed rollers to work. Caught my middle finger between two pieces of metal as chipper winch cable forced them together. Instant destroyed nail....resulted in trip to hand specialist who had to repair the nail bed, after removing all of the nail. I'm mistreating it, what with taking too brief of a break....just hope the nail regrows.....

[MasterBlaster]

Yikes! I bet THAT hurt! :\:

[pantheraba]

Sorry to hear it RB...sensitive area, has to be aggravating to work with.

[No_Bivy]

I tried logging chockers, but the quick release ball thingy sketched me out a bit. A lot of the steel ones the crane guys here have are so trashed it's a blood letting to use em'. What type of logging chokers are you using RB?

[sotc]

here its a bell, not sure of a ball type. as long as theres weight on it and its layed right theres no way the nubbin can come out of the bell

[GASoline71]

here its a bell, not sure of a ball type. as long as theres weight on it and its layed right theres no way the nubbin can come out of the bell

Bell here too... I ain't riggin' with a crane, but you are correct Willie.

Gary

[squisher]

If you don't lay or set your chokers proper though they can come open when ya go to yank on them, again this is from highleading not from craning.

[GASoline71]

Good call Justin.:)

Gary

[squisher]

Just doing some re-reading though and yah once there's weight on the choker and the knob is seated in the bell properly I've never seen or heard of one opening. Was just saying under no load if ya don't set them proper they can open when ya yank. Just to clarify.

[GASoline71]

Yup... I always put a load on the choker to ensure that it is set right. Never had one come undone or fail... However, never say never (knock on wood!):D

Gary

[squisher]

Ah you hook on a highlead you'll lose a bead sooner or later nature of the beast, I can't say that I never have but I know how to lay a choker properly or jam a little stick or something in the bell if in doubt, never lost many.:thumbup:

[No_Bivy]

I'm gonna try one.:D

[GASoline71]

These are the one's I use...

Pre-made FSE "cat" chokers (http://store.baileys-online.com/cgi-bin/baileys/284?mv_session_id=YSwbHMLx&product_sku=FSE%203812)

Bailey's sell them in 3/8" and 1/2" wire rope. I only use them for pullin' big trees and for skidding. No overhead lifting.

Gary

[Bodean]

Those are the chokers We use at the Presidio.

In fact the only chokers I've ever used in 3 different tree outfits.

I've never seen a bell pop out, but I've seen the line spline out splinter
and pop in half a few times.

Damn, RB sorry to hear about your finger.


Butch, Still thinking about ya,
Will you be able to "walk" about when you get your cast?
Could you still Fall trees with a cast on? Or Run ropes?

[MasterBlaster]

I dunno, check out Beranek. He has a cast on his right foot in the topping pics. I'm guessing a broke foot? Frans? Any details?

[Jonseredbred]

I would have them cast your spikes right onto you.

[MasterBlaster]

I could bring them with me when I go back on the 9th.

With gaff guards, of course!

[lumberjack]

He had a broke leg MB, but promised to climb that tree on that specific date so up the tree he went :)

[Al Smith]

I just caught that part part about a"continous" chocker.We called them a "beckie" back in the iron worker days of my youth.They were not the best for gripping steel on a verticle lift and seldom used for that,if ever.

No matter,not rubbing salt in the wound,so to speak,it happened.That that doesn't kill us makes us stronger.Of course some times there is a little pain in the process but this will pass in time.I've been laid up a time or two myself.Hang tough.:thumbup:

[MasterBlaster]

He had a broke leg MB, but promised to climb that tree on that specific date so up the tree he went :)


I know that much, Carl. It's printed on the bottom of the poster.

I was hoping for a tad bit more info. ;)

[lumberjack]

You guessed his foot, it was his leg. The story is in his book, since your hoblin, I'll go look for ya.

[log-ologist]

I dunno, check out Beranek. He has a cast on his right foot in the topping pics. I'm guessing a broke foot? Frans? Any details?


Its in here . I think.

http://www.forestmachinejournal.com/articles/Beranek.pdf

http://www.forestmachinejournal.com/
some other interesting articles in the main site, i get the full paper edition monthly as do other Brits I expect.

[MasterBlaster]

I mean details, like how he got the spurs to fit the cast, how well it worked, ect.
Frans, can you ask him? Maybe give him a link to this thread?

[Frans]

I mean details, like how he got the spurs to fit the cast, how well it worked, ect.
Frans, can you ask him? Maybe give him a link to this thread?


Just caught up on the thread, MB. I will call him tonight.

Frans

[Al Smith]

I mean details, like how he got the spurs to fit the cast, how well it worked, ect.
Frans, can you ask him? Maybe give him a link to this thread?

Ahem,I know what you're thinking:what: My little bud Tom went in the hole about 10 years ago ,fell about 20 feet and broke his ankle.He started climbing way too early before the bones had knit correctly.He can predict the weather now.

The little rascal is still a damned good climber but that old injury haunts him.After about two hours you can tell he's in pain.He does as much as he can flying a bucket these days.Now there's a thought,eh?

[pantheraba]

Ahem,I know what you're thinking:what:?

I divined the same thought. An extra month or so invested in proper healing now can make a huge difference later. Don't get impatient...well, you will get impatient, just don't give in.

[squisher]

I'm not trying to encourage bad behavior so listen to your doc MB, but on the flipside I did my ankle in really badly crazy sprain torn ligaments doc told me a break would've been alot simpler, six weeks on crutchs and nearly six weeks with a cane and I found that it never fully healed until I went back to work. Had to wrap it everyday and it was sore as hell could barely crawl around the hillside (highleading) but it did heal and has given me no grief since. I'm just saying sometimes after sufficient healing has taken place ya need to get it going to strengthen and keep mobility. That said I'm not recommending climbing in a cast but you'll know when your ready just be honest with yourself.

ps. my injury was the end of my extreme mountainbiking days.

[No_Bivy]

I divined the same thought. An extra month or so invested in proper healing now can make a huge difference later. Don't get impatient...well, you will get impatient, just don't give in.

WORD. true.:D

[MasterBlaster]

Just caught up on the thread, MB. I will call him tonight.



Thanks, Frans! :beer:

[Frans]

Thanks, Frans! :beer:

I just talked with him on the phone. I told him I would e-mail him this thread tonight.
The rest is up to him.
Oh, he said he used black electrical tape to hold the spur in place on his cast :lol:

[pantheraba]

I just talked with him on the phone. I told him I would e-mail him this thread tonight.
The rest is up to him.
Oh, he said he used black electrical tape to hold the spur in place on his cast :lol:

I think I'd at least go with duct tape. :D

[MasterBlaster]

Gorilla duct tape.

[stehansen]

That's good stuff? I've seen it around lately but haven't bought any. My daughter and I built a bridge for her science class from fireplace matches and gorilla glue. Her bridge won the class contest for the amount of weight it would hold before breaking.

[MasterBlaster]

It's duct tape on steroids!

[No_Bivy]

I'm thinking direct bolt instead of tape.:lol:

[TC3]

FrankenBlaster ?!?

[No_Bivy]

The newest member is an obvious punkA$$.

[vharrison]

Exactly.

[MasterBlaster]

"Hope it hurts?"

Sounds like a typical Jason username. Whutta sick fuck! :roll:

[vharrison]

MB, you getting any relief from the pain?

[MasterBlaster]

Yea, most of the time. I'm discovering the real meaning of "pain and suffering."

I hate vicodin!

[stehansen]

That stuff always worked on the pain but made me feel somewhat nauseated.

[MasterBlaster]

You gotta have food in your gut.

[stehansen]

Yeah, back in the day I had a bean harvester and I was getting a bucket of beans out of the hopper while the machine was running for my uncle's friend. As I swung the 5 gallon bucket up I hit my knuckle on an auger and cut the tendon to my middle finger on my left hand. Didn't hurt right then but the next day it hurt like a mother. Got to be pretty friendly with the pain meds for the next few weeks. The side effect of the nausea is good in a way as it would be pretty tough to quit the meds if it wasn't for that. As it was I quit them even before my prescription was finished. Hey, thanks for asking about my kid the other day MB.

[MasterBlaster]

You're welcome, brother. I was wondering how he was doing.

One thing no one tells you about pain meds is the constipation. Lordy! I've been feeling FOS, not unlike that TB troll. Luckily my metamucil habit helped me out with that.
As I was leaving the horsepistol last friday the nurse told me "it was gonna get worse before it got better," and she wasn't lying!!! But I think the fever/swelling has broken today, and if that's true then Stage 1 will finally be over! Hallelujah!!!

[vharrison]

One thing no one tells you about pain meds is the constipation. Lordy! I've been feeling FOS, not unlike that TB troll.

:lol:

[darkstar]

I always use canabis to solve nausea

[Al Smith]

The broken bones are bad enough but the crush injury is really where the trauma is.A "Blow out" is hydrastaic shock to the tissue,painfull as hell.:whine:

If there is some fever related to this injury,it doesn't surprise me,it's the bodys defense mechanism to ward off infection.Damn,I hurt just thinking about it.:(

[treetx]

I always use canabis to solve nausea

Me too, but I am proactive about it.

No nausea and no glaucoma so far :thumbup:

[MasterBlaster]

I can see pretty well, myself! :drink:

[fishhuntcutwood]

.A "Blow out" is hydrastaic shock to the tissue,painfull as hell.:whine:


That's the part that makes me cringe! Butch, I can't imagine that part. Crush my foot, OK. Break a toe, fine. Blow out the side of my feet, dear God, might as well shoot me in the face. You're doin better than I would.

Sorry to hear about all the other "crap" that goes along with it. Sorry man. Keep going strong!

Jeff

[stehansen]

I always use canabis to solve nausea

I hear you can get in trouble for that.

[MasterBlaster]

Well, everything is looking good. The bones are healing up nicely, as well as the damaged tissue. They put it in a boot, but I can't put any weight on it yet.
Lordy, I'll be glad when this is all over! I'm missing the best part of the year as far as nice weather goes. It looks like I'll be back in action right when the summer heat is back. That is gonna suck cuz I'm gonna be one outta shape mofo! But, I'll get over it.

:beer:

[No_Bivy]

better late then never!!! Your'e used to the heat!!!:D

[tntree]

I got a Bowflex you can buy cheap

[Frans]

Dave,
you are always selling!

[top hopper]

I got a Bowflex you can buy cheap



hahahaha! :lol: :lol: :lol:



Lemme guess Dave, its just sitting there like some modern deco-art.

Been there!:D

[top hopper]

I should clarify for everyone else,
I assume this is the same bowflex your wife bought from my wife?


Classic!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[tntree]

Quit f___ing laughing, its not funny :X

[No_Bivy]

WTF is a Bowflex? Hahahhaha!

[Newfie]

WTF is a Bowflex? Hahahhaha!

It's an art deco exercise thing that the gay guys down the road use as a plant hanger.
:D

[No_Bivy]

plant hanger= bow flex, I get it now.:D

[MasterBlaster]

Quit f___ing laughing, its not funny :X

Actually, it's not funny at all. It's the most painful thing I've experienced in my freaking life, and I've had some pain inflicted over the years.

Ya'll should respect this thread a bit more. :(

[No_Bivy]

Will do, sorry. Howz it going?

[Skwerl]

Actually, it's not funny at all. It's the most painful thing I've experienced in my freaking life, and I've had some pain inflicted over the years.

Ya'll should respect this thread a bit more. :(

Yes, it's painful. And it's terrible. We are all acutely aware of that and most of us want nothing more than to ease your pain however possible. If that means cracking a joke to try and get you to smile and perhaps not think about the pain for 5 seconds, then it was worth it. Nobody here is doing anything to be disrespectful to you, Butch. They are joking because they care about you and wish you well.
:)

[olyman]

Butch. heal fast man. ive hammered my feet more than once..and that hurt like h.and i am serious pain tolerant---cant even begin to imagine the pain--more vicodin, please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MasterBlaster]

Yes, it's painful. And it's terrible. We are all acutely aware of that and most of us want nothing more than to ease your pain however possible. If that means cracking a joke to try and get you to smile and perhaps not think about the pain for 5 seconds, then it was worth it. Nobody here is doing anything to be disrespectful to you, Butch. They are joking because they care about you and wish you well.
:)


Well hell then, joke away. Haha. Funny shit.

[TC3]

Oops. I'll classify my LOL as a nervous giggle.
Love Ya, Butch !!!
:3some:

[Newfie]

Like Brian said, no disrespect intended, gotta lighten the mood to help you heal.:)

[Frans]

Today I tweaked my elbow. Not anything even close to what Butch is going through but a deep bone pain.
I rely on my body to make my living and now I know I will go though pain until it works itself out. I of course will be using it way too much for faster healing and during that time I will be hating life.
So yea, I understand what Butch is saying.
Hang in there buddy!

[RReedy]

Geeez MB. Sorry to hear about your injury. Glad to hear things are progressing in the positive. Guess i'm a little behind the times up here. Not quite sure how I missed this thread, but i'm sending all the "best wishes,get better soon" kinda stuff that i can find down your way. Oh, and like so many of the other have said before me,,,, Do like the docs say, and don't try to rush things too much.

[RIVERRAT]

Actually, it's not funny at all. It's the most painful thing I've experienced in my freaking life, and I've had some pain inflicted over the years.

Ya'll should respect this thread a bit more. :( Butch I hope you know they meant no disrespect.

The thing with my deal was getting over being to hard on myself. Also worrying that everyone thought I was a "Dumb Ass". My thought was, who but a "Dumb Ass" could trip,fall & whack his own self with his saw while it was in MY hand!!??

With life crap happens. A lot of that crap is called an accident. How we allow our minds to focus on that event can have a great influence on the final effect it has on our lives. Whether it be short or long term.

Butch, I hope in a short time to read your post about you bitching about the heat while doing Tree Work:)

[Poleframer]

Hey MB, hope all is going OK. Having been through a compound femur fracture, I dislike meds as much as you. Take it easy, we dont heal as fast as we used to.
Russell

[KlausDeiter]

Been away on trip, bad accident, sorry to here.

They say the medical bills in USA will hurt more than the injury, what is story with WC, you claim or get WC or you smart cash man hold out cybercup for coins?

I donate too, may please get receipt to claim on taxes yes? You must tell tax man too ... oh, I help, I tell ready now if you like, yes?

[KlausDeiter]

It does/can happen... even to the BEST in the business.

It can but not this time, he is not best but is dangerous. Is very bad business to praise bad work make climber get big head hurt himself, is happened.

http://www.treeworld.info/showthread.php?t=326


Now I know I'm stayin' on the ground.

So how you know what is best when you scaredy cat and no unwissend kite flyer?

[KlausDeiter]

Here is helpful link

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f3949a.pdf

[JamesTX]

Well hell then, joke away. Haha. Funny shit.

Jeez, these people sell their belongings to help you out. Give them a break.

[wiltingoak]

Butch posted a while back about his ordeal and other's who have it worse. While I can sympathize with his pain (try having a bone marrow transplant and three years later a head-on at 70 mph) and knowing intimately the comings-and-goings of pain meds and effects, the entire process of healing sucks, often much worse than the first day of the mishap. Getting-up in the morning sucks, the whole damn day going by sucks, and the pain the doctors tell you will subside doesn't and their attitude often makes pain worse, especially with foot-ankle-lower leg injuries - they just don't know enough from x-ray and education to alieviate what one feels.

It plays on one's attitude constantly, and it all sucks. I'm reminded about Abu Gharib and the tales told by prisoners just to relieve the pain - say ANYTHING to get them to stop and they did, exactly what the CIA wanted to hear but unfortunately it all wasn't true. If kissing a fat man's ass would help - for just a minute - to diminish the pain of bone injury, I'm sure everyone would oblige, happily. It isn't until it hurts that we start to know who we really are and none of us want to be that.

Hang in there Butch, it will heal but goddamnit...it takes too friggin' long. By the time I come back - or log in from afar - I'll just dander a guess that you'll be flying high again...from the physical standpoint / not the spiritual one. Back porches help - set-up your foot on a pillow and take aim with a potato gun to lob some salvos over on the neighbor's houses. Every shot makes the throbbing son-o-a-bitchin' pain go somewhere else for a moment. Later,

Reed.

[MasterBlaster]

Jeez, these people sell their belongings to help you out. Give them a break.


Thanks for your help.

[Paul B]

no worries Boss, get better eh?

[Climber020]

Jeez, these people sell their belongings to help you out. Give them a break.

I think we would all be a bit grumy getting laid like Butch has and missing the spring rush and some of the nicest weather to work in. I just don't feel that something like that is appropriate to say. He didn't ask for the help, though I am sure he greatly appreciates it, it is a bit rude to throw it back in his face.

Please take no insult to what I have said James. Just stating how I would feel.

[MasterBlaster]

It's true I've not been in the best of moods lately, but I DO appreciate all my fellow Treehousers have done for me.
:beer:

[GASoline71]

Hang in there dood... We are here for ya.:)

Gary

[Skwerl]

Hang tough, Butch. It's true that what doesn't kill us only makes us stronger.
:blob6:

[TheTreeWiseMen]

I 'broke' myself last year.........two lower discs totally mashed. Off my feet for weeks. I know how frustrating the recovery process can be, at times it really is soul destroying. Hang in there mate, I empathise with ya. Do as the Dr. says!!!

[Al Smith]

Hang tough, Butch. It's true that what doesn't kill us only makes us stronger.
:blob6: Ye but in the mean time ,you think you are dying.

Well,then on the other hand,his foot may become so strong he could spike up a tree with his toenails .

When I cut out on that 40 foot blackjack pole years ago,I said I would never climb again.I didn't,that is for a couple of weeks.Back at it again,a whole lot wiser .

[tntree]

hey MB it was just one of those common thread derails, top was laughing at my wife buying this exercise Equipment that his wife bought. Im embar-assed, the thing might as well hang plants.

Anway didn't 020 say you got a grumy Lay? thought monkey would of been all over all that.

Any whoo ... like someone said rather here you complain about the heat, at least we knows you'd be well. take care this to will pass

[che]

"Ye but in the mean time ,you think you are dying."

or wish that you WOULD!!!

[wiltingoak]

Lost of shit gets lost in the pain of being broken, but a sense of humor being rediculed only makes it worse. IMHO.

[Old Monkey]

Anway didn't 020 say you got a grumy Lay? thought monkey would of been all over all that

What and get that old grumpy Gus Blaster on my case? No way!

[Banned by Squirrels]

Damn, two weeks ago! I'm feeling bad it took me this long to find out about it...

Sorry you got hurt big guy. Hoping for a speedy recovery for ya!

[18 stoner]

Sorry to hear butch, im like banned by squirrels-only just found this!! Hope you are healing well.

The reason ive not been on here for a while is i also incurred an injury around two weeks ago. To cut a long story short i was hit on the head while grounding for my mate. Nothing too serious but the docs laid me off and told me not to read, watch tv, use PC etc etc.

Started work again now but not had a climb yet.

Like you, lots of lessons learned and mistakes noted. My main lesson was, if i didnt wear a helmet i WOULD be a cabbage now.

As already said butch, injury sucks, but lets hope as we get older we learn to not rush, learn from our mistakes and enjoy what short time we all have here.

Hope all works out well for you. Pete

[MasterBlaster]

Thanks, everybody!

[Swe#kipp]

MB, heal up and take it easy and don't rush back too work, let the leg heal in the time it needs, I didn't let my crushed ankle do that, so now I'm 31 years old and on constant pain medicine ,,,,
So take your time to heal up !!!!!!!!!!!!

All the best / Kristoffer !!!

[Awsomeclimber]

As a few of you know, i too broke my foot then my wife broke my heart...

It was a bad week for sure, ill find the pic of my broken heart soon, in the mean time i DIDENT stay off my foot, it knitted badley then they had to RE BREAK IT!!

Now its healed but the x-ray shows the 4th Metertarsal has "rolled" it will give me lots of greif in the years to come.

Once out of plaster i found i couldent step on anything that wasent flat.

had to make a foot plate, that worked but was hard to keep in place..
Ended up with lots of "silver welding" (silver tape like your gorilla tape at a guess)

In all this my hands have suffered heaps, 5 torn blisters the first time up a tree, so keep your hands working with ropes MB..

The pics are of my "sore" foot (I think MB's is so much worse) The other shot is all i could find of my broken heart!!

Oh and the footplate, checkerplate steel and even painted..

Take care ol mate, do as i dident AND STAY OF IT!! kind regards Derek.

[MasterBlaster]

Did you have the pins and needles/tingly sensation? THAT is what I'm hating the worst, and pain pills don't work.

And what's up with the straight jackets?

[Awsomeclimber]

Hey Boss, just turning this off and out the door..

Not heavey on the pins and needels but then i never stayed of it either, it is a circulation problem?

The straight jacket was/is the closest i could come to a broken heart pic..lol..

Rest up ill pop in tonight and see how ya doing!!

[Frans]

Nice to hear from you and hey sorry bout the bad news!

[darkstar]

Yeah that sux. Sorry to hear bout the broken heart.
Foot will heal fast though.
Hey MB , i know you are feeling better as your post count is up.
Awesome

[Old Monkey]

UGLY FEET! BLECH!

Left foot, left foot

Right foot, right

Feet in the morning

Feet at night.

Left foot,

Left foot,

Left foot,

Right.

Wet foot, dry foot

Low foot, high foot

Front feet, back feet

Red feet, black feet

Left foot, right foot

Feet, feet, feet

How many, many feet you meet.

Slow feet, quick feet.

Trick feet, sick feet

Up feet, down feet

Here come the clown feet.

Small feet, big feet

Here come the pig feet.

His feet, her feet

Fuzzy fur feet

In the house and on the street,

How many, many feet you meet.

Up in the air feet

Over a chair feet

More and more feet

Twenty-four feet.

Here come more and more..................................and more feet!

Left foot. Right foot.

Feet. Feet. Feet.

Oh how many feet you meet.

[sotc]

sorry for the news derek, keep your chin up

[pantheraba]

Sorry for the troubles, Derek...glad to know you are working through it all.

[che]

Good book, Darin....:D

Sorry to hear about your foot, Derek! I think you have fine UNIQUE feet. Looks painful though but at least they didn't explode.

[MasterBlaster]

Those toes look CRAZY! :P

[RIVERRAT]

Got too say those things sticking out from your feet are ....well kinda weird man.

[Awsomeclimber]

PETE!!!! you said it should cure ANY foot fetish????lol...

As for the side track, how is YOUR foot today Boss?

[MasterBlaster]

It's the same as ever, swollen with the pins and needles sensation all the time. I'll feel like I'm finally getting over it whenever THAT crap goes away. Today is five weeks since it happened.

[pete mctree]

PETE!!!! you said it should cure ANY foot fetish????


I guess there is just no accounting for taste:lol:

[stehansen]

Too bad Awesomeclimber. Don't let it get you down. OM, are you filling in for Dr. Seuss?

[zzr1200]

Oh Sh*t, first I've heard of your accident MB get well and then take it easy on the return to work.

You will have to change the way you work slightly, I damaged 2 disks 20 years ago the brain still tells me to go for it but the back says NO, its just another learning curve in life.

[darkstar]

MB you ever post any pics of it yet?

[vharrison]

Dark, I think there are a couple in this thread.

[Awsomeclimber]

Is here a "speical place" you go to learn all that info OM??

At least Che had something nice to say about my poor feet..lol...

I hope your better today Boss, you have to keep the blood flowing to your foot, just little exersizes like flexing you calf mustle??

Is the rocket propelled chainsaw an optian yet?

[Old Monkey]

I just read a lot of Dr. Suess.

[Awsomeclimber]

I just read a lot of Dr. Suess.

I emailed it to my Daughter

[doggonetrees]

Sorry for the delay in wishing you a swift and speedy recovery on your injury. As has been stated before- don't rush your healing. I broke my arch on my right foot while in high school and didn't do the healing time requirements and it reminds me of it when I put the hooks on and when it gets cold. Glad to read ya!:)

[stehansen]

My foot kind of hurts today. I think I'm having sympathy pains.

[MasterBlaster]

Sympathy pains? Ha!

Here's what I'm dealing with, so far.

[No_Bivy]

DAMN JIMMY!!!! :O heal fast MB!

[SteveBullman]

im glad i was eating when i saw that picture

[bowline]

ooooooooooooooow that looks nasty.

[vharrison]

Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. The doctor thinks that looks okay? Oh my gosh.

[MasterBlaster]

No shit. Ha!

[chucky]

Holy crap, MB. I got thinking it's not a good time for that speed skate avatar. Damn.

[sotc]

yummy!

not!

[JamesTX]

jesus that's nasty.

[MasterBlaster]

You shoulda seen it the first week, with the stitches still in.

I've developed an entire new relationship with pain, here of late.

[vharrison]

Seriously, the doc think that looks good? The swelling is what is causing the pins and needles, isn't there anything they can do for that?

[vharrison]

Old Monkey, DO NOT GO BACK A PAGE.

[che]

Someone needs to warn Darin before he sees that!! :O

Butch, is that pus on your heel? Infected? Otherwise, I think it looks pretty good....considering.

[MasterBlaster]

I had just finished soaking it. It's some scuz that I'll boil out with peroxide, no biggie. Those were the deepest wounds. It's amazing how the scar is invisible. It was 7 or 8 inches long.

[Frans]

I think swelling can be bad because the circulation is not so good when the tissues are inflamed. Not a heck of a lot you can do until the injury has had some time to stabalize.
You soaking your foot does alot of good.
Hang in there Butch.

Go soak your foot! :)

[stehansen]

That looks crushed alright. Do you still have to keep it elevated?

[MasterBlaster]

Well hail yea.

[Bodean]

Gawd Dang, That is one serious situation there.

Keep soaking it, It's gonna get so much better.

It's all coasting and healing now.

If you can help me pay my mortgage, I think I can take a leave of absence.:)

[Part Time]

Hard to believe nothing was broken. Hate to say it, but at least
that was fortunate. Hang in there.

[Skwerl]

PT, he had 3 breaks. I assume the swelling and circulation issues are why he doesn't have a cast on it.
:whine:

[Part Time]

Thanks for the correction. Guess the Memory is starting to fail.
In that case I think it looks even better. But still not very pretty.

[Paul B]

dang Boss, that dont look so good. keep taking your vitamin C and other anti oxidants. you can take the pain, you are the Masterblaster. the worst of it should be over by now, if you took that, you can take the rest.
and yeah, ick. not so purty.

[High Scale]

That looks bloody horrible.

[Al Smith]

Aside from the obviously unattractive photo,it's just the white blood cells doing their job.A deep wound with massive tissue damage has to heal from the inside out,a long painfull process.

Believe it or not ,I've seen worse.A buddy of mine got caught between two cars and it crushed both legs below the knee caps.It his case it took over a year to heal.It may sound hard to belive but he gets around pretty good these days.There is hope,don't give up the ship,so to speak.

[Old Monkey]

Old Monkey, DO NOT GO BACK A PAGE.

Too late! Curiosity got the best of me. Breakfast just got postponed.

[squisher]

That looks pretty brutal man, keep on keeping on.8)

[pete mctree]

Looks harsh!!!! OUCH!!

Heal well

[darkstar]

MB that pic is sweet . Does it stink?
Hey man , i think it looks great for what happened to it.
It looks like it is healing fast and well.

[vharrison]

MB, Does it stink?

:lol: Boys are bad.

[che]

:lol: Boys are bad.

That reminds me of when my son got bit by our cowpoop eating dog. He got some nice puncture wounds in his forehead. Went to school the next day, came home and said his head smelled just like cow poop. I thought he was kidding, but it really did. Sure 'nuf......after they cultured it, it turned out to be loaded with Ecoli....didn't know that's why cow poop smells as it does.

Butch, I bet I'm not the only one who thinks of your foot during those 'near misses' now and INSTANTLY becomes more aware/careful.

[MasterBlaster]

Cool, that's what I hope everyone learns from my mistake.

[darkstar]

Really waszent a mistake.
Its just part of the Biz.
Ok argue if u will.

[MasterBlaster]

No, it was a mistake. I was under the load.

[Stumper]

Arrgh. That hurts a wee bit to gaze upon. Heal thine heel Sir Butch.

[Sparko]

MB That's ugly like, heal soon.

[GASoline71]

Heal up my friend... :)

Gary

[JamesTX]

Was there any nerve damage? Did you lose any feeling in the foot?

[Al Smith]

Was there any nerve damage? Did you lose any feeling in the foot? I imagine in the last couple of weeks he wishes there was no feeling.

[MasterBlaster]

There's all sorts of nerve damage which manifests itself as constant pins and needles/electrical shocking feeling. The doc says it will go away, eventually. It really messes with sleeping. Pain meds do nothing, but whiskey helps a bit.

[darkstar]

Whiskey heals what ills ya.
For a spell , anyway.

[JamesTX]

There's all sorts of nerve damage which manifests itself as constant pins and needles/electrical shocking feeling. The doc says it will go away, eventually. It really messes with sleeping. Pain meds do nothing, but whiskey helps a bit.

I think I know the pins and needles thing you're talking about now - but on a much smaller scale. I cut my finger once and cut through the nerves. Felt strange for a while. Doesn't bother me anymore unless I hit it funny.

[darkstar]

Man when i sawed my calf muscle and most everything else back there i got pins and needles for years. Mostly mine was due to streching the scar tissue out again so i could walk flat footed. 6 full months on crutches and another 6 to finally put my heal down each and every step.If i squeeze it just rt. it burns. Now though the burning feels good.

Like i said i think your foot looks great for what happened to it. Man. You got tough bones.

[MasterBlaster]

Lordy, I hope it doesn't take me THAT long to recover!

[darkstar]

They said the way i cut it was worse than breaking it . My DR said i was lucky to keep the foot.
Seriously though the pins and needles will feel good to you some day.
Like pain always does in time.,
It will eventually be the healing sign.

[vharrison]

Lordy, I hope it doesn't take me THAT long to recover!

Me too kid, but do what the doc says. Keep that foot up and press him for answers. Does that foot look good to him? Ibuprofen, ask him if that will help the swelling. Sorry, it is the mom coming out in me. ( And I know you are not listening! Kids just don't )

[lumberjack]

MB, there is some silver containing products that will help with the wound healing. If you'd like I can foward your details to a cousin who specializes in hard to heal wounds. My fathers left foot/ankle (I'll hunt for some pics) had deep burns around the cicumference of the ankle quite similar in appearance to yours.

Can you see light between your toes or are they swelled shut? Lacics (spelling?) might help with the swelling. If you'd like, send me info/pics and I can foward it along to those who helped my father.

"Get well soon" :)

[MasterBlaster]

Me too kid, but do what the doc says. Keep that foot up and press him for answers. Does that foot look good to him? Ibuprofen, ask him if that will help the swelling. Sorry, it is the mom coming out in me. ( And I know you are not listening! Kids just don't )

Why would I not listen? And why will you not believe me when I tell you Ibuprofen doesn't work? It's not PAIN, it's a nerve thing.

The wound is closing up like it should, Carl.

How is your Dad?

[stehansen]

I had knee surgery in 1969 from a football injury and the scar is still kind of tingly when you touch it.

[MasterBlaster]

I blew out my knee (ACL) in 2000. It was swollen for a month.

[stehansen]

I blew out my knee (ACL) in 2000. It was swollen for a month.

Were you climbing?

[lumberjack]

He fell, his climbing line caught him 18" off the ground, but his knee still took the brute... I think.

Do I remember correctly MB?

Good deal on the wound healing :)

[darkstar]

We need more Vharrisons around here .
Its good . Showing the love sista.

[MasterBlaster]

Yea, the limb broke and when I landed my left foot wasn't facing in the right direction.

[stehansen]

Wow that had to hurt. I hyper extended my knee practicing to be the next worlds champion bulldogger ;) when I was about 21 yrs. old. On crutches for a month and a cane for a couple more. Put a stop to that stuff. Anyway while a guy is laid up you get awful impatient to start doing stuff again. Anything. Going to the grocery store starts to seem like an adventure. Having to depend on other people for everything gets to be a bitch also.

When I hurt my knee bulldogging I had a party scheduled at my house in a few days and I had a couple of buddies that I had asked to get everything ready for me. This party was kind of important to me because it was the first party in a house that I owned and there was this girl coming. I had them coming about 4 hours before the party started and they did show up on time but started slamming down my booze as soon as they got there. In a hour or two both of them were totally worthless and I kept asking them to do stuff and they would yell at me defiantly like they were my kids or something. Then they would just stagger off all pissed and forget what I had asked them in about 30 seconds. I was pretty mad at the time, because being helpless is a bitch, but it seems pretty funny now when I think back on it.

[vharrison]

[QUOTE=MasterBlaster;116151]Why would I not listen? And why will you not believe me when I tell you Ibuprofen doesn't work? It's not PAIN, it's a nerve thing.[QUOTE]


Hey, I did not say you were not listening, just encouraging you to continue to persevere in following his orders. You are doing a good job and I know it must be tough. Here is my thinking on the Ibuprofen: I am NOT talking about the pain, I am talking about the SWELLING, Ibuprofen reduces swelling, and if the swelling subsides maybe the nerves could relax. Just trying to help, big guy. (but I will shut up now) :roll:

[GASoline71]

Just trying to help, big guy. (but I will shut up now) :roll:

Keep on him Gigi... he's just a big teddy bear with muscles...:)

Gary

[MasterBlaster]

Muscles that are turning to jello...

[Awsomeclimber]

Hi Boss, tring to keep the rest of your body in shape will be handy..

Im finding all sorts of musels i forgot i had, also got rope burns for the first time ever.

The office at (my families) home had a "skyhook" in the roof, just to practise stuff i learnt here, I should of had one here, just to keep my upper body in shape..In the mean time, take it easy mate!!

[MasterBlaster]

Hi Boss, tring to keep the rest of your body in shape will be handy..

That's impossible to do with your foot elevated above your heart. :(

[mryb]

Muscles that are turning to jello...

Butch, look on the good side about it... A chance for a new idenity in life.
1) Jelloblaster
2) Jelloclimber.com
3) The Jellohouse
...All in good fun/Rick

[Awsomeclimber]

That's impossible to do with your foot elevated above your heart. :(

How about your leg on a well padded chair, your butt on the ground.

Do some "pull ups" with a rope, slide up the hitch to keep your hands workin..
just as high as your leg, then down again.

Mabey when they get the plaster on, in the meantime, whilst seated, try to do some push ups from the chair, it will also help your torso.

[Old Monkey]

All that moving around, he'd probably knock over a whiskey bottle or two. I am not sure that's a good idea.

[Bodean]

Bar dips on the edge of the chair?

You could hold onto both whiskey bottles and bar dip on those with your feet on an ottoman. Great for the abs too.

No offense to Ottomans.

[vharrison]

MB, any better today? Has the swelling gone down any?

[MasterBlaster]

Nope.

[olyman]

nope to which--------the pain---or the swelling?????????????

[Frans]

nope to which--------the pain---or the swelling?????????????

Does it matter? They both suck

[olyman]

fraaaaans--because--swelling down--good---swelling still up--not so good--

[darkstar]

Got Whisky?

[Awsomeclimber]

I heard he broke the whisky bottle tring to exersize??

[vharrison]

fraaaaans--because--swelling down--good---swelling still up--not so good--

I agree with both of you. However, I think once the swelling is down the pain will ease. At least I sure hope so. Here is to hoping you are feeling better soon, MB.

[Frans]

I agree with both of you. However, I think once the swelling is down the pain will ease. At least I sure hope so. Here is to hoping you are feeling better soon, MB.

I second that!
Get better soon MB!:thumbup:

[MasterBlaster]

I believe it's going down, just a bit.

Cool! Now I've gotta stretch out that Achillie's tendon. THAT'S gonna be fun.