Need protein ideas

[Dave Shepard]

I need some ideas for low carb, and low fat protein. Only thing out of the water I eat is tuna salad, and I've given up on chicken altogether. Finding lean protein isn't easy. Wondering how the vegetarians do it. Nutritionist keeps talking about fish and chicken. I'll die first. Any ideas appreciated.

[Paul B]

beans?

[MasterBlaster]

Good luck with that!

[Dave Shepard]

Aren't they full of carbs? I'll have to look them up. I need to stay away from starchy foods as well.

[OTGBOSTON]

I have been eating 'special k' protein bars for breakfast. 10grams of protein per....

[rumination]

Stepping out on a limb here...eggs? Or too fatty?

[Frans]

Road kill.

low in carbs and fat yet lots of protein.

[Dave Shepard]

The last time I tried a low carb diet, fat and salt weren't a consieration, they are now. To be perfectly honest, if meat isn't ground up into a burger or sausage, I'd don't care for it. I'd almost be a veggie, but the protein issue keeps surfacing. I'm not entirely happy with my nutritionist, she doesn't seem to want to talk about the questions I have.:what:

Not much roadkill around here, but thanks for the idea.:)

I've drastically reduced any unnecessary sugars and bread. The sugar is really messing with me lately.

[MasterBlaster]

People that eat more than 2 or 3 egg yolks a week die sooner than people that don't.

[Frans]

I was amazed at how much sugar and salt are in our foods already

[rumination]

People that eat more than 2 or 3 egg yolks a week die sooner than people that don't.


Uh oh.

[MasterBlaster]

It's a fact, Jack!

[rumination]

Is it the cholesterol?

[Skwerl]

Cool, I need some sort of bad habit to reduce my life expectancy since I quit drinking and smoking. :|:

[MasterBlaster]

Is it the cholesterol?

Yes.

[OTGBOSTON]

Whey protein

[DMc]

Dave, what are your goals? You are not going to get a finer, digestible, low fat protein with good amino acid balance than deer meat.

Game meat is rarely taken into consideration when considering the benefits or dangers of meat protein. Do a little research. Lean deer burger is one of my favorite foods.

Dave

[Blinky]

I was gonna say, venison. Super lean, ultra high protein.

I guess I'm doomed cuz I go through at least six eggs a week, usually more. My cholesterol was low last time it was checked though.

I get my protein and fat in the AM with breakfast and my carbs with dinner. I eat lots of rice.

[NeTree]

LMAO Dave! Just made venison stew yesterday. Great stuff... until Valerie learned it wasn't beef.

[Blinky]

LMAO Dave! Just made venison stew yesterday. Great stuff... until Valerie learned it wasn't beef.

Venison sausage (a little beef fat added) makes the best damn spaghetti and meatballs you've ever tasted.

I can't live without bacon. I have a little restaurant (French no less) that whips me up two eggs over medium, toast and ten... that's right, ten slices of bacon with OJ for $5. I eat there almost every weekday.

[Mr. Sir]

My dad had a buddy he used to hang with. This is how he would order breakfast at the diner, "Give me a dozen eggs, over easy, a pound of bacon, crispy, and keep making toast til I tell you to stop." He died in his early forties.

[NeTree]

Imagine how many chickens were crying and pigs frying at the GTG.

But... that's definitely a slow suicide, Brett.

[NeTree]

Imagine how many chickens were crying and pigs frying at the GTG.

But... that's definitely a slow suicide, Brett.

[Strikermike]

If you are not happy with your nutritionist seek out another. A vegetarian diet can be very healthy. But it takes a lot of work to make sure you get all the proper amino acids. Some are hard to get if you do not eat any fish or meat.
Whey protein isolate is a good source of protein but you still would need some supplements.

[Burnham]

Check out buffalo. It's in many markets around here these days. Ground, or steaks and roasts.

[Old Monkey]

It comes in chip form too.

[NeTree]

:lol:

[woodworkingboy]

My dad had a buddy he used to hang with. This is how he would order breakfast at the diner, "Give me a dozen eggs, over easy, a pound of bacon, crispy, and keep making toast til I tell you to stop." He died in his early forties.

Sounds like my dad, started pushing up daisies at 42.

[Blinky]

It comes in chip form too.


Real funny... do know how many times I've been called buffalo chip? :X

[MasterBlaster]

Check out buffalo. It's in many markets around here these days. Ground, or steaks and roasts.

I was waiting for someone to pipe up with that.

[Al Smith]

I think lentils are supposed to be a good source of protein .

[stig]

TOFU!!!!

[Frans]

Cool, I need some sort of bad habit to reduce my life expectancy since I quit drinking and smoking.

Actually, your body is so used to that stuff that you will prob. die from lack of it! :D

And hey, all you people talking about 'venison'. I suggested that first, in case you all forgot about my suggestion of road kill! :P

[Al Smith]

If you talk abour venison it just depends on where it comes from .Ohio deer which are huge for whitetails and have a diet of nice midwestern corn and soybeans are are tasty if prepaired properly .

High mountain Colorado mulies are also large but eat pine needles and sage brush . Taste just like an old goat . I gave some to me dog once and he had to lick his arse to get the taste out of his mouth .

[vharrison]

What about a protein shake? They sell the mixes in the gym. You could probably go to the health food store and get it also.

[chucky]

I agree with the buffalo and venison suggestions. Buffalos are grass-fed so you're also getting a much more healthful omega 3 to omega 6 fat ratio. Same with deer, which eat a natural (not corn-fed) diet. Since I discovered the EatWild site a year ago, about the only meat I eat now is from local, pastured animals that have been fed no hormones and antibiotics. The meat not only is much more healthful, but it tastes better too!

http://www.eatwild.com/products/massachusetts.html

[Frans]

Taste just like an old goat . I gave some to me dog once and he had to lick his arse to get the taste out of his mouth .

Vivid, Al. Vivid :big-tongue2:

[NeTree]

I agree with the buffalo and venison suggestions. Buffalos are grass-fed so you're also getting a much more healthful omega 3 to omega 6 fat ratio. Same with deer, which eat a natural (not corn-fed) diet. Since I discovered the EatWild site a year ago, about the only meat I eat now is from local, pastured animals that have been fed no hormones and antibiotics. The meat not only is much more healthful, but it tastes better too!

http://www.eatwild.com/products/massachusetts.html

I noticed the top two farms are right in my town, too! :D
Bunch of nice farms in Hardwick, which is the next town west.

[wiley_p]

My favorites.
Moose (been several years0
Any fish
deer
Quinoa
tofu.

Oh and bacon, but that's kind of like air, a man has to have it.

[Al Smith]

Try elk sometime,oh my . A giant deer that eats grass instead of pine needles .

[woodworkingboy]

Tofu...a deep subject.

[Blinky]

Tofu...a deep subject.

And hardly worth discussing.

[rumination]

Most people in this country have never had good fresh tofu, prepared properly. It can be pretty darn good.

[Paul B]

I like tofu, deep fried with sauce. :) http://static.px.yelp.com/bphoto/ur8mEa7qgcT7xSPfFUtBMg/l

[Al Smith]

People actually eat that stuff ?:?

[Burnham]

Yeah, people actually do, Al. Even people you sorta know. :)

Love this bumper sticker that rides around my little PNW town:

"I didn't fight my way to the top of the food chain to eat tofu"

Or this one I've heard:

"Vegetables is what food eats"

[Reddog]

Those are pretty funny Burnham.

Dave, as many have touched on wild game in the deer family are lean meats.
But lean meats are also available in all animal forms. The simple truth is, if you cut off the fat most are lean. Beef can be about the only exception to that one. Some beef has been breed for marbled fat. But flank steak has very little fat from any breed.

Fish is a very good low fat source also. And what fat it does have is good for you.

Eggs are also a great source. But I have seen so many different reports on the yolk subject, that you will need to decide how many you want to eat.

Many forms of soy protein. (tofu is one of them) But watch soy, some folks can't tolerate it very well.

If you can find a local health food store you may find some options.

[rumination]

I've been doing a little bit internet researching on eggs and cholesterol and there really doesn't seem to be a consensus. However, most current medical sources seem to agree that an egg or two a day is not going to be harmful, as long as other sources of cholesterol are extremely limited. I eat a mostly vegetarian diet so I should be ok on that front, and will continue to do my one or two eggs a day because that's my main source of protein. Here's a synopsis of an interesting study that was done on eggs, cholesterol levels and weight loss:

http://www.physorg.com/news139156140.html

[Newfie]

I noticed the top two farms are right in my town, too! :D
Bunch of nice farms in Hardwick, which is the next town west.

There is a place on route 9 in Hadley that raises and sells Bison meat.

Ostrich is supposed to be lean.

[Newfie]

And as for tofu, there are some studies that suggest too much of it can act as a carcinogen. But then I have trouble trusting any of these studies. They seem to consisently contradict each other. I guess you have to know who paid for the study.

[Al Smith]

All this ado about low carbs and less fat might be good .Whatever happened to just a basic ballanced diet .:?

As far as protein you don't have to neccessarily need a bunch of meat .My daughter who is a veggie is healthy as a horse,cuter than a button and tiny as a minute .

[Dave Shepard]

Balanced is good, if you are starting out in good shape, without any inherited problems. I've got a long way to go to get in good shape, and a few hurdles in the way, other than simple good eating and exercise. Right now, I'm having difficulty processing fats and sugars, that might change with weight loss.

[rumination]

Sounds like fish might be the best protein source for you then. High protein, low fat.

[Dave Shepard]

Death first!;) I'm not opposed to plant based protein, just don't know much about it, that's all. Will have to keep reading.

[rumination]

Oh, I didn't know you're not a fan of fish. Plant based protein can be great but, like you said, research is in order to make sure you're getting what you need. If you go vegan it would be safest to add a few appropriate supplements as well, probably.

A good place to start researching is Indian food, as they have a centuries old tradition of vegetarianism/veganism in some of the religious groups there, so they've got it figured out already.

Also, maybe you should try finding a more helpful nutritionist, if possible.

[Dave Shepard]

I'll look into the Indian food. They have a lot of rice in their dishes, don't they? I like rice. I'm not looking into being a vegan, but adding more vegetables is in order. I do need to try and find a better nutritionist, I tried talking to her about supplements, but she wanted to wait until the next visit.:what: Paying out of pocket for all this is a real pain in the ass.

Ditching salty, fatty, and high carb foods is helping. I got into a real rut by not eating frequent small amounts of protein, instead having a couple of larger meals a day. My metabolism went totally haywire.

[DMc]

Dave, There is nothing that can screw up your metabolism faster than eating the food that is readily available to you in the supermarket. It looks good and natural but it's not.

Even the water you drink, if it comes out of the tap from a city purification system can kill all the beneficial flora in your intestinal system.

While you are trying to get back to whatever level of health you desire, research whole foods, both raw and fresh. Organic if possible. The amount of toxic substances we ingest on a regular basis is appalling.

For my metabolism, I am a fan of occasional fasting for rebalancing.

Dave

[Al Smith]

It's been said that moderation is the key to everything or so I'm told .

It makes sense if you have a cholesteral problem that a lot of beef wouldn't be good for you . Fact is the native peoples of Alaska are the only group in the world that can subsist of a diet of meat and still remain healthy .Why this is or was so I haven't a clue .

[chucky]

Well, not quite so fast ...

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[stehansen]

Almonds?

[stig]

It's been said that moderation is the key to everything or so I'm told .

It makes sense if you have a cholesteral problem that a lot of beef wouldn't be good for you . Fact is the native peoples of Alaska are the only group in the world that can subsist of a diet of meat and still remain healthy .Why this is or was so I haven't a clue .

Al, I don't know about the Alaskan natives, but the Greenland inuit supplemented the meat by eating the contents of the intestines of reindeer and muskox.
That would give them enough vitamin C to avoid scurvy.

[treetx]

It's been said that moderation is the key to everything or so I'm told .
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Amen Al. Similar to the motto I live by...... everything in moderation.... including moderation. ;)

[GASoline71]

Whey protien was mentioned before... but you gotta watch out how it is delivered. I use it in powder form, and mix it with 1% milk. Most of the protien powders are high in calories to make it taste good...

So if you do use whey protien in powder form, you really need to check the labels. If you get flavors like "Cookies and Cream", or "Chocolate Fudge Malt", or Super Snazzy Strawberries"... you're usually gettin' a buttload of sugar calories and carbs to go with the protien... won't do you much good.

I just use plain ol' vanilla, or chocolate flavors. Low calories, low carbs, and high in protien. Its a tuff choice when pickin' which one you want to use... there are a bazillion different brands and types of whey protiens..

Gary

[Al Smith]

Now I'll eat about .However chowing down on the contents of what eventually would have been defacated by a musk ox does not appeal to me .:O

I would say bull chit but somehow they are one in the same .

[Tree Reb]

It makes sense if you have a cholesteral problem that a lot of beef wouldn't be good for you . Fact is the native peoples of Alaska are the only group in the world that can subsist of a diet of meat and still remain healthy .Why this is or was so I haven't a clue .

It's because their diet is very high in Omega 3, mainly from whale and fish. Also wild game is very low in saturated fat and some high in Omega 3, which lowers cholesterol. Unlike grain feed beef which is very high in saturated fat.

I don't know anything about reindeer or musk ox intestines, and that suits me fine. :barf: