EMP/G20/G29/SW327/SW627/SW22A/SW500/SW460

[lumberjack]

Ya'll have seen the welding thread. I'd like to use my PayPal balance to pay for most of it, I'd rather NOT have to put money in a bank account to cover the rest.:/:

This is a copy/paste from a different forum. If you're interested, PM/call me.:D


Making a new thread with the current guns for sale. Looking to boost my PayPal balance by tomorrow at noon. In that spirit, no fee for using PayPal so long as you pay by noon, central standard time tomorrow.

Interested in more than 1 gun? PM me with what you want and make a package deal.

Smith and Wesson 500, 8", $800 delivered. SOLD
Smith and Wesson 460, 5", $800 delivered.
Smith and Wesson 327, 2", $800 delivered.
Smith and Wesson 22A $200 delivered w/ green dot sight. SOLD
Smith and Wesson 627 $1400 delivered w/ CR Speed belt (42"), Speed-E-Rack (7 pin), CR Speed WSMII holster, and 20+ Hearthco moon clips, I believe 25-27. The gun has a a refined trigger (Haras on this board), replacement rear sight (Millet), replacement cylinder release (Brownell's), and chamfered cylinders for speed-e reloads.


Springfield Armory EMP 9mm, carried once in a tux, night sights, $925 delivered. SOLD

Glock G20, 2nd Gen, Service Size 10mm, night sights, $440 delivered SOLD
Glock G29, 10mm sub compact w/ night sights, mag has a +0 extension, $480 shipped.


SW22A, 22LR
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/10mmsheepdog/Gun/DSC05453.jpg

EMP, 9mm
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/10mmsheepdog/Gun/DSC05302.jpg

X frames. 8" is the 500, 5" is the 460.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/10mmsheepdog/Gun/IMG_8376.jpg

SW327, 2" barrel, 357mag, SW627 5" 357, both are 8 shots.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/10mmsheepdog/Gun/IMG_8375.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/10mmsheepdog/Gun/Sizecomparison.jpg

G20, G29, and 627:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/10mmsheepdog/Gun/DSC05461.jpg

[Jonseredbred]

I'd buy but no paypal.

[lumberjack]

They are for sell otherwise, I am motivated regarding Paypal.

I take personal check or money orders also. I can't take credit cards aside from Paypal. I have recieved or have in the mail a couple-few large in the past week.

[Skwerl]

For sale, you mean? ;)

I might be interested in the P3AT but I gots no moneys right now. :(

[Dave Shepard]

And being a Masshole, I can't buy'em, unless they were originally sold here.:X

[lumberjack]

The P3AT is an hour east of Arborworks. ;)

Dave, not being familiar with Mass laws, I can ship them to an FFL in Cali, NY, or Hawaii with no problem. Those are the 3 top restrictive states. I haven't found the law yet saying that they can't go to an FFL in Masshole.

[Dave Shepard]

If the gun wasn't sold here, or was sold here, and leaves the state, it can never come back again. It sucks. We can get Recon Glocks, but only if they are Police turn ins.

[Skwerl]

So, are you saying that all handguns in MASS are registered?

[squisher]

Ship to canada?:D

[okietreedude]

pmail sent

[Dave Shepard]

I don't think the gun itself is registered, but the gun has to be on the approved list. If it's not on the list, no go. If you are moving into MA, the gun obviously has left the state, even if it is an approved gun on the list.

[Skwerl]

Sounds unconstitutional to me, but you'd need a bunch of lawyers and money to fight it.

[lumberjack]

http://www.goal.org/misc/faq/handgunsales.html

I can't find what you're referring to, Dave.

[Dave Shepard]

It does appear that you could send to my FFL, however they say they can't bring in guns not on the roster. Maybe they don't know WTF they are talking about, not uncommon. Apparently it only applies to retail, not private sales.

[lumberjack]

It also said the AG refused to make a roster. Thank goodness the government is out to protect us! :roll:

The SW22A is sold.

[lumberjack]

EMP is sold.

[IchWarriorMkII]

I want that 327 sooo badly...

... but no money for it ! UGH.

[thattreeguy]

un believeable
i remember selling a huge part of my arms collection, to fund the business.
wish i hadnt

[woodworkingboy]

Would love to partake, but hopefully you'll forgive me Carl... if I had a handgun sent here, I'd be looking at five years hard time. I brought a Mannlicher rifle with me when I came here, was building the stock for a guy and only needed a couple days to finish it, then I ran out of time in California. Customs intercepted it at the port with my other goods, and I got into some very deep and murky shit. The idiot Japs are very paranoid about guns.

[lumberjack]

...a huge part of my arms collection...

:/:

;) If you know what I'm saying.


I remember that story, Jay. You sure you don't want to risk it? :D

[woodworkingboy]

Thanks anyway, Carl, I have some illegal big knives, and a chainsaw with no rakers, that will have to be my basic home defense for now.

[MasterBlaster]

I have lots of primative weapons, but I like my spear best.

[woodworkingboy]

A spear sounds handy. I think I could make one up. It could double to measure two meter logs for the pulp mill.

[MasterBlaster]

You can keep a foe at bay. That's always good.

[The Branch Doctor]

A spear eh.... kinda tricky in close quarters but at least it's quiet. lol

[darkstar]

I have a buyer for the 10 mill glock.
Met him yesterday in Coppinger cove , he took me for a 6 hour cab truck ride.
He raved all day about wanting a 10 mill glock.
Whats so special about it?

[The Branch Doctor]

You can keep a foe at bay. That's always good.

Hell, that's always a MUST!:D

[MasterBlaster]

A spear eh.... kinda tricky in close quarters but at least it's quiet. lol


Sure, IT'S quiet - but the foe might squeal a bit.

[lumberjack]

Nothing is overly special about the 10mm Glock that isn't special about any Glock.

The 10mm is the parent of the 40 cal. The 40SW is about 1/8" shorter than the 10mm, and operates at a slightly lower pressure.

(This is for a Houser, but I figured someone else might like the read)

Head space is the distance the bullet fits into the chamber, which controls how close the bullet is to the rifling, and how it fits in chamber.

Revolvers typically and traditionally fire a rimmed cartridge. The head spacing is held by the rim of the case which keeps the cartridge from falling into the chamber.

Pistols typically head space off the mouth of the cartridge. If you compare a 9mm to a 357, you can see the rebated (shrunk) rim the 9mm has, and the pronounced rim the 357 has. Also you won't see a 9mm with a heavy crimp like the 357, since the edge of the neck is what holds the loaded cartridge in place.

This is why you can fire a 38 in a 357. The 38 is a weaker round, and since the head spacing is held by the rim, there's no reason you can't fire a 38 in a 357.

But what about the 40cal in a 10mm? Essentially the 40cal is just a short 10mm, just like the 38 is a short 357. The kicker is in a pistol, the ledge/shoulder/edge at the mouth of the case is what keeps the bullet from falling too deeply into the chamber, out of the firing pin's reach.

However, all isn't lost, the extractor should be plenty strong enough to hold the 40cal case against the breech face, allowing the firing pin to reach the primer and send the round down the tube.

What are the disadvantages? If you fire many rounds (several hundred to several thousand), the 10mm chamber will build up residue where the 40 cal case stops. If you don't clean out this fouling, the 10mm may not be able to get all the way in the chamber. This could cause anything from a malfunction to an out of batter firing, however a properly tuned gun (from the factory, nothing special) won't allow the firing pin to fall unless the chamber is in battery.

Another theoretical downside is a decrease in accuracy. With the case being held only on one side, it has the tendency to pivot that way until it hits the chamber wall. Most handgun shooters wouldn't be able to discern this difference.

Yet another downside is the potential for the extractor to miss the rim of the case, which would lead to a failure to fire in most cases since the firing pin can't reach the primer.

The last downside I can think of is the extractor "isn't designed for that." While that's strictly true, there's far more stress on the extractor pulling a sticky piece of brass out of the chamber and flinging it across the range at mach 3.


All that being said, I personally fire 40 cal in a 10mm the same as I would a 38 in a 357. If you fire enough 38's in a 357, you can feel the difference in fit when you try to load a 357 on top of the fouling left by the shorter 38.


Pics to follow.

[lumberjack]

The SW 500 is sold.

This is a 357/38/10mm case. The 40cal case is just shorter than the 10mm, same as the 38 is to the 357.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/10mmsheepdog/Gun/DSC05466caption.jpg

[The Branch Doctor]

Awesome info Carl, thanks for posting it!:)

[Jonseredbred]

This thread title really screws with my monitor.

[lumberjack]

Howso?


If someone here is wanting the G20, speak up. It's a couple PM's away from being gone on another forum.

[darkstar]

Cool info.

[Jonseredbred]

Its too wide

[lumberjack]

I've heard that before.

The G20 is sold.

[Dave Shepard]

Wow! You're really cleaning house. I'm surprised everything is selling so fast.

[lumberjack]

On another forum, I started a new thread listing the current guns for sell yesterday at 7:51, presently it has had 238 views.

The first thread I started 1/24 and it had 900ish views by the time I started this thread.

And they were listed on another forum as well.

[arborworks1]

Carl, sell my sniper rifle for me. ;)

[lumberjack]

If I get that job, I'll buy it from ya. If I sell a couple other things and nothing FUBAR's with work, I'll do it anyways.

[arborworks1]

I'm just Fawking with you, when you get the cash. No worries.

[lumberjack]

Oh, well in that case........







:lol:

[lumberjack]

I believe the G29 and the 460 are sold, leaving the 327 and the 627.

[okietreedude]

Carl,

got the goodies today....thanks a bunch. I hope to enjoy it as much as you your welder.

my gunnie thinks i got a steal. says he couldnt touch the price even at his price and thats without the scope.

Thanks again,
David

btw, your mailbox is full.

[lumberjack]

Dumped some PMs, thanks for the heads up.

I hope you enjoy it also :) It's been over a year since I've shot it, glad it will get some use.

[Old Monkey]

I missed the welding thread. Are you thinking of carrying a concealed welder instead of all your pea shooters?

[lumberjack]

Aside from the 627 I haven't shot those guns in a year or better. Some of the guns I have multiples of.

[woodworkingboy]

Carl, just wondering, where do you usually keep all those guns?
I made a gun cabinet for a guy, nice project.

[lumberjack]

Most of those guns are with UPS, the FFL, or the new owner.

:P

[Paul B]

Charlton Heston's gun room, wonder who inherited all those when he passed.
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3999/1208011894575ln8.jpg

[MasterBlaster]

Whut ugly tile!

[brendonv]

Carl, my brother was asking about the EMP, looks like it's gone.

Woops.

[lumberjack]

I thought about that, but I was too late as well.

[Dave Shepard]

Paul, that's only one of his gunrooms.;)

[NeTree]

So what's left?

[Hobby Climber]

Anybody got any FlintLocks they want to part with, $$$ ? :/:

[lumberjack]

Ha no flint locks period.

Out of the list above, the 327 and the 627 remain.

[woodworkingboy]

Whut ugly tile!

I think it's meant to give the effect of a lot of spent bullet casings and shattered glass. Charlie loved his weaponry. 8)