Cool Rigging!

[MasterBlaster]

Caught this over at Steve's place, (http://arbtalk.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=5425) it looked fun!

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[PCTREE]

Git er don.

Good solution to tricky tree.

[CurSedVoyce]

Sweet TD... was a little worried about the tangled saw in that one drop... We have quite a few like that here that houses eaves are notched out for... makes ya wonder what the home owner was thinking when they built the house. Have a white oak trim like that coming up, I'll try and get some pics...:/:

[Blinky]

Good way to keep the blocks off the house. Nice camera angles, especially doing the top pieces.
I don't care for the way the groundie was stopping everything cold like that, too much janking around. It's weird how some guys never really get the idea of running a rope and others will smoothly land every piece in pile. Sorry about the side track there.
Good video for certain.

[Old Monkey]

Nice music.

[CurSedVoyce]

Yup great music.. and I agree with Chip... They could have let some of those drops run better.

[MasterBlaster]

Maybe it was a new guy.

[Blinky]

Maybe it was a new guy.

I get that a lot. :(

[PCTREE]

I get that a lot. :(

Maybe you should be nice to the help then:P

[sotc]

did you guys see how they had the rope run in the porty? never seen it that way before. looked like 3 wraps for a fairly small piece, maybe why it didnt run well

[MasterBlaster]

Why does everyone do that???

[Blinky]

Do what?

I meant to say something about the porty. I haven't seen that before. Three regular style wraps on a big porty with a 1/2" rope will hold a couple of grand easy. I wonder if it gives more control for small pieces on a big porty. I'm gonna try it.

I'm nice to my help and my two regulars are the smoothly in a pile types... but contract climbing I get all kinds.

[Nails]

Just checked out this vid on Youtube earlier today myself. My first thoughts were "wow, that ground man is really snubbin that climber". After that I thought they had a nice rig setup and then I saw how the house was built around the tree and thought the tree huggers were at it again. Could have bombed that stem down but obviosly the goal was to leave a small footprint.

[brendonv]

I think he mentioned something at Steves "yes I know the porty's tied wrong".

MY old boss used to snub shit off like that on me. Hard not to do natural crotch with trunk wraps. I'm climbing for him tommorrow, he's gonna try new school if it's up to me.

[MasterBlaster]

I hate it when the groundie running the ropes thinks he's too tough to wear gloves. Inevitably, he'll take that extra wrap or two which holds the load. Dumbasses...

[Blinky]

I hate it when the groundie running the ropes thinks he's too tough to wear gloves. Inevitably, he'll take that extra wrap or two which holds the load. Dumbasses...

Yep I usually have to check with unfamiliar groundies, I make'em wear gloves. The big steel portys will hold fairly big stuff with only a half wrap. You should see my 14 year old run rope, his timing is tight.

[Bounce]

I have a friend I like to run the porty for me on these kind of jobs. He knows how to let a piece run and not take too many wraps. It's definitely an artform to know how many wraps to take just by eyeballing a piece.

[Koa Man]

Seems like a crane would have made that job a lot easier. Looks like there was lots of room for one to set up.

[Wagnaw]

Some people just have an aversion to cranes... They see it as giving money away. I don't really understand it.

I talked to a guy who works in D.C. at a conference, and he went on forever about how tear hinges are the best and how he can do just about any removal with careful rigging 'way safer' than using a crane. ...which I'm sure he's damn good without a crane, but...

...maybe I'm just lazy. ...yeah, that's probably it.

[MasterBlaster]

When a crane isn't used, and Bobcats/whatever aren't around, I always wonder how the trunk get loaded.

[Skwerl]

Some people just have an aversion to cranes... They see it as giving money away. I don't really understand it.

I talked to a guy who works in D.C. at a conference, and he went on forever about how tear hinges are the best and how he can do just about any removal with careful rigging 'way safer' than using a crane. ...which I'm sure he's damn good without a crane, but...

...maybe I'm just lazy. ...yeah, that's probably it.This industry is chock full of people who just don't know what they just don't know. Ignorance is bliss.
:|:

[Wagnaw]

I found that out today. ...the hard way.

[Bounce]

I sometimes wonder if it's possible to learn any other way.

[wiley_p]

The hard way is the most effective for me, it only takes 3 or 4 times to get it right.

[Altissimus]

....Hard way here too .... effective ! .... whassup with the line routing on the port o wrap .... maybe a slack moment away from ...

[rbtree]

I think he mentioned something at Steves "yes I know the porty's tied wrong".

MY old boss used to snub shit off like that on me. Hard not to do natural crotch with trunk wraps. I'm climbing for him tommorrow, he's gonna try new school if it's up to me.

He did it that way, because they forgot their longer lowering lines, and the shop was a long drive away. So, they tied two lines together, and used the PW-3 as if it were a PW-1, which allowed the knot to pass.

Definitely several pieces weren't let run enough. But some of the longer branches had to be held fairly tight to miss the roof, it appeared.


The wood rigging was quite cool. Though, I'd bet much of it could have been cut short and tossed clear of the new cement.

[MasterBlaster]

Where ya been, Roger???

[Al Smith]

The builder of that house must have had a screw loose to allow that oak to undermine the foundation of what appeared to be a nice house . How dumb is that :?

[Wagnaw]

I ran the porty like they did in that video the other day because the rigging line got so sappy, it wouldn't budge when treaded normally. Running it as shown in that video allowed me to run the line more smoothly with the sap and when all I wanted was a little friction.

...learn something new everyday...

[Ax-Man]

The builder of that house must have had a screw loose to allow that oak to undermine the foundation of what appeared to be a nice house . How dumb is that :?

Al, you would be surprized how common that is. Having the tree removed prior to building anything is just too much of a price to pay because it isn't in the construction budget. We do work at a campground that has trailors on site permanently. They build an addition or a deck off to the side and have a tree right in the middle of everything. :|::|: They just build around it.

[Al Smith]

Well I have a buddy I was in the navy with that built a deck around a 200 foot Douglas fir too but it was 20 feet away from his house which was near Portland .

That' s a lot different than building near a tree that will surely ruin the foundation of the house if given enough time .

It certainly would be simpler to drop and stump grind before building than wait 20-30 years and pay dearly for it .

On the other hand though just a few years ago I removed some cottonwoods that were allowed to grow next to a pole barn .Like they wouldn't get any larger or something .:?

[darkstar]

When a crane isn't used, and Bobcats/whatever aren't around, I always wonder how the trunk get loaded.

Cube it

[darkstar]

I ran the porty like they did in that video the other day because the rigging line got so sappy, it wouldn't budge when treaded normally. Running it as shown in that video allowed me to run the line more smoothly with the sap and when all I wanted was a little friction.

...learn something new everyday...

You are going to go far.

Man i just had another tree service go belly up and ask me to do all their work.

[No_Bivy]

why did they go under?