Would you do this for free?

[wiley_p]

I'm in a bit of a spot here. I had told the developer that owns my property that if they had a tree that was sketch for them I would take care of it.
Meaning, local, 2 maybe 3 hours work kind of deal, maybe even a couple of times.

Well he wants to know if I will go to Delaware and do this tree. I guess the low bid seems to high.
I'm torn, I want to honor the offer I had made, but Delaware? WTF?

[wiley_p]

couple more. 44" at he butt. unknown height.

[lumberjack]

Deleware and you're on the west coast?

:lol:

[OTGBOSTON]

looks pretty straightforeward to me. I wouldn't get on a plane to do it for free though...

[Bounce]

I sure would. I would pack all my saws and gear onto a plane from Seattle, fly 3000 miles to Delaware (that's in Quebec right?), cut down that tree, and then fly all my crap back home FOR FREE.

[Blinky]

If somebody offers me something like you did, I wouldn't expect them to incur any cost other than their labor.

[Blinky]

I sure would. I would pack all my saws and gear onto a plane from Seattle, fly 3000 miles to Delaware (that's in Quebec right?), cut down that tree, and then fly all my crap back home FOR FREE.

Unless they're brand new, you'll be taking the gas tanks off of those saws if you're flying nowadays... assuming you mention it to the nice lady at the check-in counter.

[NeTree]

I'd say he's frigging nuts.

[Bounce]

I wasn't actually serious Blinky. There's no way in hell I would ever do a job on the other side of the country for free.

But that's probably not the point. I'm betting that this guy is willing to pay Wiley's fare to get him to Delaware. The question is whether you would take down a 44" tree for nothing. This is at least a whole day of work, maybe more depending on the situation on the ground. It's not like this is your Grandma Wiley, whom you cannot say no to.

[lumberjack]

If somebody offers me something like you did, I wouldn't expect them to incur any cost other than their labor.

A day of labor and 2 days travel time. I'd expect all expenses and a month of rent free living.

[wiley_p]

I'd say he's frigging nuts.

Exactly what I thought. Except I did offer to give them a hand on a tricky tree IF needed, local, as in 20-30 miles. This is what seems to happen to me frequently, I give a guy a chit and when they call it in, its way beyond what I was thinking.

The low bid was 5300.00. From the pics I must not be seeing something.

[lumberjack]

Looks like 2 hours of work from a lift, possibly less.

[wiley_p]

A day of labor and 2 days travel time. I'd expect all expenses and a month of rent free living.

Thats the 22 Carl. I watch property for this company. Which means I don't pay rent, just utilities. Though in "watching" the last patch of timber I had to make it clear to some individuals that they were trespassing, and a good chance some of those same folks are the ones who cleaned me out for several grand. I do provide a service it seems in exchange for no rent, but again maybe its no perceived that way always.

[Paul B]

maybe make a reasonable offer of paid expenses etc and a grand of pocket money? Surely they will still be way ahead of the low bid?

[lumberjack]

If I can get my lift to the tree, dump fees are under $40 a ton, and there's no licensing or other bureaucratic expenses, I could do it for $4k this weekend, if the dump is open.

:D

The stump would be extra.

[Bodean]

The picture must be missing something.

No one in Delaware can do that tree for less than 5K?

Hmmmmm, East Coasters.

[wiley_p]

Speaking of East. Any you fellas recognize what type of tree it is. It maybe ain't a Water Oak like I thought. Beech?

[lumberjack]

I was thinking beech.

[Thor's Hammer]

Its a beech. Fagus sylvatica. Makes fantastic firewood.

[stig]

Beech is real easy to spurclimb, thin bark and all. Also really straight forward to take down. It is the national tree here and the species I fall most of every year.
It looks like there is plenty of room to just dump all the branches straight down with a snapcut, except some of the thin stuff near the house, that'll likely take a little handsawing or onehanding the t200 while you swing it away. A good climber could take that tree apart in maybe 3 hours, no need for a lift.
You wouldn't even need anybody on the ground, if you don't have to do clean-up. Dump the branches, and fall the trunk on top of them, and get back on the plane for home.
Someone local must have a t200 and a falling saw, you can borrow, so all you need to bring is your spurs, saddle and rope.

[NeTree]

Fun to split, though.

[squisher]

I'd re-inforce to the landlord guy that you meant LOCALLY. And that no way can you suffer huge expenses to do that tree for free. Clarify what he meant, if he meant he'll pay to fly you there put you up and your meals, then maybe you could do it for free as long as it doesn't interfere with anything else you've got going on.

[Al Smith]

It's a beech alright . Not bad cut green .Harder than Kelsey's nuts after it dries out .

You have to remember where it's at ,Delaware .Nothing is cheap in that state but the sea food in season is tasty .

It doesn't surprise be a bit with a 5 grand price .You get close to DC the prices head towards the sky on everything .

[treetx]

I miss beech trees.

I miss hurting beech trees.

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[gf beranek]

Stig said it right, but it sounds to me like the guy is trying to stretch out a take on your good nature and generosity.

[Dave Shepard]

First, I'd try and figure out where Delawhere? is.:/:

I think the landlord is abusing your offer, and full well knows it.

[PCTREE]

If you want to help the guy out Id be willing to do it for them. Sure we could do it a lot cheaper than $5k

[NeTree]

I'd do it for free.

Just give me say... $4,500 to cover my travel expenses.

[rbtree]

Tree looks to be 90-105 feet tall. Rig a few branches out that extend near the house. Drop wood if they don't mind some lawn damage.

One day for a crew of 4-5.....including clean-up. Less to cut and run.

That's assuming it's about how it looks in the photos, and not decayed enough to present any rigging problems.

Looks like fun.. Tell him he needs to pay ya some for your troubles over and above expenses and ground help.

[MasterBlaster]

Looks like 2 hours of work from a lift, possibly less.

Double that and you'll be more accurate.

[Jonseredbred]

I love some of the long distance bids you guys throw out.

You guys give bids over the phone too??

[Al Smith]

Huh ,I could have it on the ground in 20 minutes-half and hour . It might be a little tough on that house though .:/:

[lumberjack]

I set the requirements for my bid, and I figured 2 days of work, 2 days of driving, 1 truck, 1 groundy. I'd have the mini, dump trailer, lift, and chipper, if I want it. It's plausible I could take the grinder instead of the chipper, if needed.

[MasterBlaster]

I love some of the long distance bids you guys throw out.

You guys give bids over the phone too??

Hell yea, I agree. To many unknown variables that the pics don't explain.

Do you have to clean it up? NOT cleaning it up means you've all that brush underfoot if you need to...

Rope out any limbs? The pics don't really show how clear the drop zone is.

Is the tree accessible to a lift, or does it HAVE to be climbed? And if it has to be climbed will there be someone there to run the ropes.

The pics and description are sorely lacking to give any good answers other than I wouldn't do it for free!

[Newfie]

Huh ,I could have it on the ground in 20 minutes-half and hour . It might be a little tough on that house though .:/:

Kind of slow if you are going to dump it on the house.:D

[Mr. Sir]

Old Al doesn't like to rush things... he's half fast. :D

[wiley_p]

I emailed my contact and let him know that even though work is crazy slow here, I can't go across the country and work for free. I can hook him up but not free. He's supposed to take a video for me to get some of my obvious questions answered. His low, no haul bid was a touch over 2k. Either there is a rigging issue or that is a great market for tree work cause 2,000.00 seems like a lot.

[Al Smith]

Old Al doesn't like to rush things... he's half fast. :D Now you gotta remember half my estimate consisted of getting the saw started .:)

[ewsa]

Kinda looks to me like its leaning way over that fence, could be septic underneath too. If its in the northern part of the state I'd be happy to take a look at it for you. I'm DE for the spring already. If you need any help with it let me know

[Al Smith]

There ya go,help long distance .:)

[Wagnaw]

I emailed my contact and let him know that even though work is crazy slow here, I can't go across the country and work for free. I can hook him up but not free. He's supposed to take a video for me to get some of my obvious questions answered. His low, no haul bid was a touch over 2k. Either there is a rigging issue or that is a great market for tree work cause 2,000.00 seems like a lot.

2k for that tree in Delaware is CHEAP.

[TreeDimensional]

But it was a nice offer of ewsa to offer to go look. Classy move!

[topcon]

Wiley,
If you go call me ahead maybe can come up and see ya.

Lil Bro

[MasterBlaster]

Hey, don't be such a post whore! :lol:

[topcon]

Try not to be. I am the shy one. Wiley is the ...... wiley one. Looking at some posts as I work for power co in se. Will post more.

[MasterBlaster]

Welcome to the TreeHouse, buddy! :beer:

[TreeDimensional]

Yo Butch, ya talkin to me!!!! LMAO

[wiley_p]

I think he was talking to my younger brother. Yeah, Josh I was thinking that today. If they have me come out I could get to see you.8) ewsa, I'll take you up on your offer if'n you're close.

[topcon]

Give me a cople days heads up...Lost 3weeks vaca last year so trying to use this year. Not like I will take time otherwise. After all I was bred to be a worker.

[wiley_p]

Yeah, no shit there brother.

[darkstar]

Carl ,you cant do that tree in two hours or less.
I assume you meant cut it down and clean it up.
Also
What would be the point in even using a lift, ita just be in that way.
Genuis that you are ,no doubt.

Wiley , wow talk about your customer extending the offer .:\::|:
They have lost it totally:?

[Koa Man]

I don't think that $5300 is unreasonable to remove that tree. I am always surprised how cheap tree removals are on the mainland US.

[Tree Reb]

There ya go,help long distance .:)

OK, $5200 & I'll start packing, [that's $7839au] but I want to see that video first. 8)

[No_Bivy]

5 k seems pretty high, I bet 2400 is a bit more reasonable. Hard to tell from pics. A crew of three with a mini could most likely know it out in 6-8hrs

I still dont get why he asked you to do it for free.

[MasterBlaster]

And I still wanna see Carl kill that tree in two hours, lift or no lift.

[No_Bivy]

he is sandbagging himself on that

[gf beranek]

In Ft. Bragg a take down with full clean up on that tree would be around 3,000.

That's providing the drop zone in the picture is all usable. No lift needed, but would be handy.

[MasterBlaster]

About the same here, Jer... maybe 2500.

[woodworkingboy]

If that stem was just a little longer and straighter, it would be worth some bucks to a woodworker. Certainly cover your lunch money plus some. It's not Walnut, but Beech is real useful.

[hornett22]

couple more. 44" at he butt. unknown height.

i'd charge at least 3500 for that tree,including the stump grinding.hard to be exact with pictures.

tell him to leave Delaware if he doesn't like the prices.Joe Biden could buy it.he got asking price for his place.

[Newfie]

he is sandbagging himself on that

Probably just douchebagging. Lot of that lately. :D

Delaware must get a lot nicer than the shit you can see from the highway.:?

[Bounce]

Don't do it Dave! I just found out where Delaware is, and it's right next to New Jersey! Save yourself!!! :O

[rbtree]

Funny.....I wuz born on the eastern shore of Virginny.....

Aka the Del-Mar-Va peninsula, methinkx.

There's not a hill over 150 feet hi between our farm ( 16 feet above sea level, on a creek, a half mile from the Chesapeake) and Philly. At least that my fragmented mind remembers. We moved away nearly 50 yrs ago.

[lumberjack]

And I still wanna see Carl kill that tree in two hours, lift or no lift.

Pay the bill and I'll give ya a lesson.:)

[darkstar]

Ill chip in.
But u got to have it 90 percent cleaned up to.

[ewsa]

wiley pm the address or town if you know it.

[arborworks1]

It is possible to get it on the ground in a few hours more like 3 to 4 in my book, but you never can tell about old Carl.

2k just to put it on the ground seems a bit high.

Why not quote the guy your hourly rate plus travel expenses.

[wll]

dang men, if none of yall want ta travel let me cut her down. ill get her safely on the ground fer 1500. someone else can clean her up!!

[No_Bivy]

have at it.