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brendonv
10-09-2008, 09:14 PM
Is there anyway to estimate how many cords of split wood would be in log form.
I am trying to give someone a price on wood in log lengths from 14 trees I have to do next week. I already found someone to buy the woodchips, now I think I found someone to buy the wood, all within 10 minutes of the job site.
Trying to make an extra buck here.:)
NeTree
10-09-2008, 09:23 PM
Not sure where you're going, but a cord of wood is about 96 cubic feet (If you're measuring one log at a time).... you could try the formula for cylinder volume and be close enough. (96 cubic feet, since there's no air spaces in an unsplit log as there are in a pile of cordwood.)
If you have logs in a pile, the dimensions are the same as for a cord of split wood- 4 feet high, 4 feet wide, 8 feet long... 128 cubic feet.
brendonv
10-09-2008, 09:26 PM
I'm just trying to figure out how much I can get. Thinking 14 trees, 8" + diamter wood, no longer than 8'.
Couple hundred?
NeTree
10-09-2008, 09:38 PM
Figure about 2/3 the going price of a split cord in your area.
arborworks1
10-09-2008, 09:59 PM
I would try for 500. Not to greedy but also an extra buck in your pocket. Plus you might be able to supply these folks with wood from now on.
No_Bivy
10-09-2008, 10:09 PM
DNB=do not bother......chip it. 8" dia ?:/:
arborworks1
10-09-2008, 10:23 PM
I disagree, John. Sell it if you can.
14 logs 8 feet long 8 inch diameter? couple hundred? 5 hundred? i must be missing something
arborworks1
10-09-2008, 11:29 PM
I think brendon is saying he will have 14 trees and he is going to chip everything up to 8 inches. And try to sell the rest, that is the way I was reading it.
rangerdanger
10-09-2008, 11:34 PM
I just looked this up for Dad today. A cord of wood is 4' wide by 4' high by 8' long, so 126 cubic feet. A face cord of wood (What is normally delivered) is 4' high, 8' long, and as wide as the wood, which is an average of 16", so 8' is 96". Divide that by 16, and you get 6. Say an avg. of 3 pieces per 16" long length, , multiply that by 6, you get 18, so an average of 18 pieces of firewood per 8' log length. Now multiply that by 14 for 14 trees and you get 252 pieces of wood. Don't know if that helped, but it was fun!!
NeTree
10-09-2008, 11:44 PM
Flawed.
Severely.
Newfie
10-10-2008, 12:10 AM
For starters, 4 x 4 x 8 = 128.
CurSedVoyce
10-10-2008, 12:15 AM
I always save the wood for the rainy days... better to make some money than no money at all when times are tight and work is slow, rained out, snowed out or sumtin...
As far as a cord... 128 cubic feet... reason for 16" cut is that 3 rows equal 48" thus 4 feet... thus three rows, 4 foot high and 8 foot long equal a cord.
Be sure to charge for stacking by the hour.. cord price seldom includes the stacking, let alone if you have to cart the wood around a building or sumptin. Law here also requires receipt to customer reflecting cord measurement, amount, person or company selling the wood with phone number. Weights and measurements requires it.
NeTree
10-10-2008, 12:19 AM
Deja vu, eh Newfie? :roll:
Newfie
10-10-2008, 12:25 AM
Don't get me started.
Al Smith
10-10-2008, 01:10 AM
Most likely you could do a Google on log measurements and it would tell you the formulas for figuring cordage in log lengths .
Like Net says though about 95 or so cubic feet in log lengths .After it gets some air spaces it stretchs to 128 cubic feet .
Then as my old man used to say there are different stacked cords .A tight cord is where a mouse can get through .A medium tight is where a cat can get through and a loose is where a dog chasing a cat who is chasing the mouse can get through .
Is there anyway to estimate how many cords of split wood would be in log form.
I am trying to give someone a price on wood in log lengths from 14 trees I have to do next week. I already found someone to buy the woodchips, now I think I found someone to buy the wood, all within 10 minutes of the job site.
When Are you guys going to wise up and go metric?
brendonv
10-10-2008, 07:34 AM
DNB=do not bother......chip it. 8" dia ?:/:
Wood is like crack up here right now, worth more in wood than chips.
I am just trying to prevent bringing it to my house, then I end up moving it, splitting it, then it sits, then rots, then I just give it away in spring. I ran across this person and they are willing to pay, and it's close to the jobsite. Lots of people now with outdoor furnaces.
Cobleskill
10-10-2008, 08:26 AM
If they average 18" dia. you don't have much over a full cord.
gf beranek
10-10-2008, 08:49 AM
Firewood is only a quick easy buck if you move it one time. Any more than that it just goes straight down the tubes.
With the continued rise in cost of fuel, natural gas and electricity for heating our homes wood is beginning to make a come back. I seen a lot of people toss their wood stoves years ago only to go back to it again. Strictly for the economics.
Jonseredbred
10-11-2008, 06:27 PM
Jerry's right. If I bring it back to my yard, cut it, split it and stack it I figure I have about $30.00 per face cord invested. Add in the reload and delivery and your close to $40.00 in cost.
On the other hand we are getting $80.00 per face cord delivered right now.
squisher
10-11-2008, 06:34 PM
Interesting, we only sell real cords up here 4x4x8. I've never heard of anyone ever talk of a face cord up here. $200-$250 for a cord of nice fir (softwoods are the preferred wood here for burning).
I figure I've already been paid to get rid of the wood and if I have to take it to the dump it costs me, so anything firewoodable is coming home. I've been burning wood for about a week or so now myself. It's the only way to enjoy real heat imo. Natural gas or electricity sucks bigtime compared with wood.
lumberjack
10-11-2008, 06:43 PM
Yeah, I really hate that I don't have to deal with wood to heat my house.
It's such a pain in the azz to have to set the thermostat once and wake up in the morning with the house the same temperature it was when I went to sleep.
It costs us less than $30 a year to heat our 2700sq ft.
Then again, it gets down to the high 50's/low 60's before the heat pump kicks on.
squisher
10-11-2008, 06:47 PM
Lol, my place is 75 degrees. Atleast! :lol:
Yah it's a real pita to throw a few pieces of wood in the fire.:P
lumberjack
10-11-2008, 06:53 PM
Heck, even in the summer it doesn't get above 72 here. :P
squisher
10-11-2008, 06:57 PM
Yah right! I love the wood heat. I have ceramic tiling through my house and it warms right up and holds that heat. Dead of winter, no socks on and warm feet, and essentially free! Did I mention I like wood heat?:D Last weekend I cranked the stove for to long when we went out and by that night the thermostat was reading 83! Just open the windows and doors and get some fresh air. I love being able to get fresh air into the house in the winter without it costing me a fortune.
squisher
10-11-2008, 07:54 PM
This year I've been burning some maple and so far it seems pretty decent. A long hot burn, but lots of really light ash.
Al Smith
10-11-2008, 08:01 PM
It costs us less than $30 a year to heat our 2700sq ft.
Then again, it gets down to the high 50's/low 60's before the heat pump kicks on.
Well of course not ,you are in a southern climate ,doesn't really get cold down yonder . Usen's up north are not that lucky . We have to burn the fuel weather it be wood ,coal ,natural gas ,fuel oil or electric .Otherwise we would freeze to death .
The part that kinda sucks is the fact that just like our southern kidsmen we have to cool the old abode come summer time.No justice ,I tell ya . :?
squisher
10-11-2008, 08:04 PM
Maybe it's a Canadian thing but I love winter. I love having four distinct seasons. Oh yah I do have central air though for the summer.
Al Smith
10-11-2008, 08:09 PM
Oh yah I do have central air though for the summer. See,I told you .Even the Canadins get sweltered in summer time . You can always put clothes on if you are cold .If you are too hot you can only remove just so much before you get down to bare facts ,in a manner of speakng .
Maybe it's a Canadian thing but I love winter. I love having four distinct seasons. Oh yah I do have central air though for the summer.
or maybe a PNW thing. i was messing with the wood pile today to and cant wait till the snow comes down low
Al Smith
10-13-2008, 08:21 AM
Well four seasons are neat but nasty winters soon becomes a monumental pain in the backsides . With a little aging of the old bones the novelty wears off .
NeTree
10-13-2008, 08:31 AM
I like the milder winters here in the south. A foot of snow beats 4 to 5 any day.
Al Smith
10-13-2008, 10:19 AM
I like the milder winters here in the south. A foot of snow beats 4 to 5 any day. South of what ,the north pole ?
I was in that same area as you for about two years and New England winters are not what I would call mild .;) Nor are midwestern lake area winters for that matter .
NeTree
10-13-2008, 01:27 PM
Yeah, but Al... I'm originally from northern Maine. ;)
Al Smith
10-13-2008, 01:43 PM
Oh Lawdy I've heard about the frozen north woods in that state .I had a buddy in the navy from Rangely ,nearly on the Canadian border . Cold enough to freeze the b-- er tail off a brass monkey .
No_Bivy
10-13-2008, 07:47 PM
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stehansen
10-13-2008, 08:51 PM
I spent a winter in Wells, NV. Never again my friends.
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