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brendonv
09-08-2008, 07:39 PM
So I looked at a lightening struck Oak about a month and a half ago. They called me today and said "You were right, it's burnt up to a crisp". They want it down ASAP.

I'm going to guess the fact it was struck by lightening won't change it much during the removal, but I figured I'd ask. How should I treat this tree when climbing...like a dead stick, or just another Oak?

8)

No_Bivy
09-08-2008, 07:40 PM
beware of cracks!!! scope it out, before you try and rig something big:/:

Skwerl
09-08-2008, 07:59 PM
I climbed a lightning struck pine today. No cracks, only popped off the bark. And the wound was all sappy, so I got sap all over my rope, lanyard, hands and saw handle. :whine:

Don't worry about the lightning thing unless you see big cracks.

brendonv
09-08-2008, 08:08 PM
Ok, cool.

Thanks again.

Bounce
09-08-2008, 09:14 PM
Lightening does very unpredictable things to trees. It turns liquid and some solids into a gas instantly, which results in an explosion. The force of these gases coming out of the trunk under high pressure usually causes cracks to form along the grain lines, but you can't always see them because they're covered by bark. Peter Donzelli, one of the best riggers of his day, was killed when a lightening struck tree he was climbing in broke off ~20 ft below him. If there's a live tree nearby, it would be a good idea to tie off to it with your climbing line and use a flipline you can cut in case the lightning struck tree goes with you in it.

arborworks1
09-08-2008, 09:18 PM
Brendon, Now would be a good time to try out crane removal. If you can get to it.

Greenhorn
09-08-2008, 10:19 PM
I hope it was a good bid so you can take your time.

Old Monkey
09-08-2008, 10:28 PM
Dude you're going to die!























Someday.

brendonv
09-08-2008, 10:51 PM
I hope it was a good bid so you can take your time.

Yep, it was pretty good. Might have someone come load the wood from under me, that would make it even better. :)

Al Smith
09-09-2008, 12:25 AM
Lightening does very unpredictable things to trees. I That's the truth .

About 5-6 years ago I disassembled a soft maple in my stepsons back yard ,60 footer which had been hit at least three times . That damned thing had limbs that looked like they had been curled with a curling iron . A bunch of springs .:lol:

No_Bivy
09-09-2008, 06:51 AM
careful

Burnham
09-09-2008, 10:36 AM
If you do see some cracks, remember the trick of stabilizing the tree by wrapping snugly with heavy duty ratcheting cargo straps. Doing so can go a long ways towards increasing your margin of safety.

brendonv
09-09-2008, 12:06 PM
It's nothing like Bivy posted. There is a trail from the tip to the ground, about 1.5" thick of bark removed. It was cool, you can follow it from the tip, to the roots, it made what looks like a mole hill into the basement of the house and wiped out their intercom.

Altissimus
09-09-2008, 02:56 PM
That Binding seems a good idea...When the tree displays that tip to butt , usually spiral scarring , I give that tree every possible caution...

Al Smith
09-10-2008, 07:52 AM
If you do see some cracks, remember the trick of stabilizing the tree by wrapping snugly with heavy duty ratcheting cargo straps. I've used that deal using chains and binders .Works well .

NeTree
09-13-2008, 10:29 PM
So.. when ya doin' the tree?

brendonv
09-14-2008, 09:35 AM
Either this week before I go away, or next week.

NeTree
09-14-2008, 09:13 PM
Brendon, I sent you a PM.

brendonv
09-29-2008, 01:51 PM
I was nervous for no reason. We kicked it's ass, made a good hourly too :). Neighbor got the wood, saved me from loading, customer happy as shit too.

Thanks for the replys on this one guys.

sotc
09-29-2008, 01:59 PM
kewl

OTGBOSTON
09-29-2008, 02:01 PM
Very nice!8)

MasterBlaster
09-29-2008, 02:06 PM
Kicking ass and taking names! :rockon:

treetx
09-29-2008, 02:42 PM
So I looked at a lightening struck Oak about a month and a half ago. They called me today and said "You were right, it's burnt up to a crisp". They want it down ASAP.

8)

Nice to see pros at work! Well done 8)

Your customer needs to talk to my old clientele because they obviously don't know how it works. They are supposed to get a quote when they realize it is goosed and then call you over to do the work 12-24 months later when the bark is slipping off :roll:

pete mctree
09-29-2008, 04:05 PM
Nice job!!!

Nervous is a good place to be when encountering new and unknown hazards. Better chance of getting to beer o'clock in my books :)

NeTree
09-29-2008, 06:20 PM
Good job, kiddo!

TheTreeSpyder
10-19-2008, 10:28 AM
i think that the sap of a pine seems more conductive than water based trees(?); whereby they seem to call lightning to them easier (more conduction to ground?).

We've had many pines next to oaks down'ere that the pine always gets it. Sometimes hitting at the base of a driveway, into the pine, and running the rebar in driveway(popping out pieces of cement here and there) into the garage and the subsequently the fuse box.

Binding is great, and can be done on both sides of hinge. i think this fortifies by pressure, and maintaining alignment/not allowing shift. But still, hinging over by cutting through cracks (especially pairallell to hinge) can give unexpected results. In a solid tree, you have compression and tension. But, in cracked; you can have like 2 individual plates, each with compression and tension.

Gord
10-24-2008, 07:55 PM
Good work. Here's Grand Fir that got hit a few days before this pic was taken, it fell apart a few months later. It was about 135' tall and shattered the whole length.

gf beranek
10-24-2008, 08:06 PM
For sure you got to make to beer thirty, Pete. Lightening strikes are a guessing game. Never two the same. Excellent pic, Gord, and nice to see a neighbor close by to work out of.

TGCIII
10-24-2008, 11:13 PM
i've got a different outlook on lightning struck trees since G.F.B.'s pic's on that redwood. i aint trying to hear that tree's story till it comes from a green book