ms660

[brendonv]

How often are you guys using your MS660's? I have been getting by so far with a MS460 running a 20". I have some Oaks to do Friday and I am pondering of trying to get the MS660 by then because I just got a big influx of work.

Just curious is all!:D

[hugashe]

i had one but sold it to anther tree guy. did not use it much. to big for every day stuff i was cutting. but I'm a part timer

[brendonv]

That's what I'm thinking. Maybe a 361 would be a better bet, and see more use...


I cut this pig with a 460.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c351/Brendonv/Vanderbilt01036.jpg

[Skwerl]

Buy a 28" bar for the 460. If that won't cut it, then work on your chain sharpening. ;)

Seriously, the vast majority of MS660 owners around here are so-called tree guys that aren't very good saw operators, or part timers. They buy the big saw to compensate for the fact that they cannot cut well with a mid size saw or sharpen a chain. I contract myself out cutting for other guys and my biggest saw is a Husky 372 (same displacement as a Stihl 440). Granted, I have three of them and they are all modified, but my little 71cc saws will outcut the landscraper's MS660 with a dull chain.

To be honest, I'm finally at the point where I'm considering buying a MS660 myself. I'm running 24"-28" bars on my 372s but I'm increasingly needing more reach on the big stumps.


No offense intended, Hugashe. I was writing that post before I saw your reply. I didn't intend for that to sound like it was directed at you. :)

[hugashe]

i was bucking with the 660 but it was hard on my back. i think it was a 36 in bar i had on it.

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that works too.

[brendonv]

That's all the info I needed to know. I have a 32" for the 460 for the big guns...but your right--a sharp chain on the 460 does rip.

[Skwerl]

Yup, buy the 660 when your 460 is getting overworked on a regular basis and it's costing you in lost income. Otherwise you will end up with a very expensive shelf ornament. ;)

Or you can buy the 660 and then sell it to me in December at a substantial discount! :P

[MasterBlaster]

I've never seen a landscaper with a 066. Hell, I've never seen em with any of the forties, either.

My only two saws are my 200 and my 066. I prefer a 066 over anything smaller cuz I cut a lotta big stumps. If I had to pack a saw around/buck trees I'd want a 044 or 046.

[brendonv]

Yup, buy the 660 when your 460 is getting overworked on a regular basis and it's costing you in lost income. Otherwise you will end up with a very expensive shelf ornament. ;)

Or you can buy the 660 and then sell it to me in December at a substantial discount! :P

Haha.

But really, thanks for the advice.

I think I'm gonna order a MS361 and a BR600 Blower tommorrow.:/: All for the price of the 660.

[Greenhorn]

I WANT one but definitely dont NEED one!

[lumberjack]

I'm a bigger guy so if it's a flop, buck/limb/load affair I'll whip out the 66 and be did with it. If it's alot of limbing/smaller wood/fewer cuts, I'll use a 44.

I NEARLY bought the 361, but I wouldn't use a rear handle smaller than a 44.

[brendonv]

Carl,

What model blower you running?

[sotc]

id say i use mine every week or 2 on average. some weeks it gets used daily some times monthly. id hate to only have one big saw in case something happened. you will love the br 600, they seem to run slower but they move alot of air!

[No_Bivy]

46-24", 46-36", 394-42" use all em.....buy a 660, it'll be worth it.

[brendonv]

Haha, this thread is funny.

Someone just called me 5 minutes ago needing a 4' DBH "oak" removed asap.

[lumberjack]

Currently we're using the old blower but the BR600 is a GREAT blower. I'll get another when this blower dies.

[CurSedVoyce]

I love my 066... I did get diffy bars for it though as it was not necessary to take to most jobs with a 36 bar. I bought first a 25 bar for the saw ( I have a tendency to size down bars with in reason) MAN you talk about a cuttin fool... BE SAFE here applies. Now this saw makes some money as it bucks like a raped ape.. Does with the 36 also, but you don't have too much bar stickin out of the log or when you fall less flex in the bar for good straight kerf. In these mountains, we have rocks, better with less bar hangin out the other side if the wood if ya follow me. I recently traded some work out for an 036 with a 28 inch bar. Low and behold.... The 25, 28, and 36 all interchange between saws. So I now have 3 bars for my 066. Chain size is the issue for the 28. Drive link amount in position to sprocket and bar length. 25 chain and bar fit both. Aint gonna run 36 on 036, that would just be silly, it will easily run the 28. I used to have take the 066 sometimes on the big pines, OUCH. I weigh 140 lbs, can we say boat anchor! Now the 036 works in the tree much better when I need the bigger cut up high. I primarily run the 036 with the 25 now, the 066 with the 28 and 36. It earns its keep now. And at the price of the 660, rebuild seems more practical than replace , plus the kits out now, parts accessable. Diversify my friend, diversify, and you can speed up your cutting and get it done.

[sawinredneck]

Stock 046 will pull a 28" pretty well, a 32" with some effort in hard wood.
I LOVE my 046BB woods port, I have heard the stock with a woods port is better?
I am a big guy as well, with a bad back, I like the weight savings. I can cut a LOT of wood up with the 046 in a short period of time!!
If I got anything bigger it would be an 880 with a 48" or bigger hanging from the ceiling. (If I can't cut it down with the 32" on the 046, I don't think it's a good idea for me to try to.)

[rbtree]

For any of you running stock Stihl's---mod those mufflers.....if you haven't heard us talk about this, there's been plenty of discussions..but most are on that other forum...AS....


There are dual port front covers available for the 440/460/660 saws. The stock ports are severely restricted to meet EPA guidelines. After doing this, the carb needs retuning. Benefits are 15-25% faster cutting, and the saws run cooler, which equates to longevity.

Or, get the disease that Brian and I have, and send your saws to a good builder and have them modified. You'll not go back to stock!

[Tucker943]

I worked for a total idiot a ways back that kept 1 200 T and 4 660's in his fleet. That was just horrible. My shoulders burn just thinking about constantly starting those 660's up in a tree.

[squisher]

I love my EHP660, invaluable around here. Been working some big firs lately and everyone wants them bucked into firewood sized lengths. Time is money and the 660 destroys a 460 when bucking anything over 24"s imo. Remember I'm running EHP or just muffler modded 361's, two 46's, and the 660. None of those other saws touch the 660 in big wood, no comparison.

I've been running mine lately with a 32" bar but will go 36" at times or throw a 25" on it too.

[Al Smith]

It's hard to beat larger cubic inch saws in larger wood .

I noticed last week end running a Huskey 181 and a Mac 125 that the Huskey hung right in to about 20 or so inchs .After that no way could it come close to big old yellow .

On the subject though an 066/Ms 660 is a damned nice saw.

[brendonv]

Ended up with 2 instead of one this morning. 361 with a 20", grabbed a 28" for my 460 (ran out of 25"), and a BR600. Ended up with an extra chain and $40 off :roll:. Better than nothing.

[Skwerl]

Hey Roger, I'm seriously thinking about keeping my next big saw stock. My last 2 saws from Ed took forever and a day and they aren't all that impressive as work saws. He seems to specialize in cookie cutters, the last 395 I got from him wouldn't pull a 28" bar as well as my 372. I sent it back and Ed said there was nothing wrong with it, then backed it up by showing video of it cutting 8" cookies wearing a 16" bar. :roll: For big saws I want torque, not cookies. I think a stock MS660 with muffler mod will work just fine for me, without the 2-3 month delay.

For the smaller saws (346XP, 372XP), I wouldn't own one stock. The porting mods are worth every penny.

Purdy saw, Brendon. :D

Welcome to the forum, Tucker.

[Husky D]

It really hurts me as a husky man to say this but the 066 is an excellent saw:X
I've used 044/046/066 for a contractor for many years and they are all capable of alot of hard graft. My friend called his o44 his swiss army knife as he used it for everything!
Being loyal though my husky 372 is still going strong along side my ancient 254 which seems to be flying at the minute (does that mean its about to go wrong:?) Here in the uk we dont seem to mod saws or adjust mufflers but perhaps thats why i would never consider running the bars you guys do on some of yours. I run my 372 with an 18" most of the time but the tree in my avatar i felled with a 24" but wouldn't want to use it like that often. Last year I ran a makita/dolmar 7900 with a 24" for felling and 18" for working tops and was impressed with its power but felt it let itself down with build quality compared to its rivals, but for the price it was alot of saw.
Brendon you won't be dissappointed with your 361 especially now they have looked at their rival and fitted decent AV mounts and air filter system!:lol:

Skwerl - sorry must have been asleep last time i logged on and missed your welcome, much appreciated

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[Greenhorn]

The 361 is a great saw, I also have the 600 blower - if its the biggest stihl. Its muy bueno too.

[CurSedVoyce]

Some history on my 066... In Merced CA ... the largest oak they had there fell over... The trunk was relatively straight and they wanted it for lumber. This saw quartered this tree trunk... 36 bar did not make it all the through on the quartering... so the tree was over 6 foot diameter... Length approx 40 feet... yes this did take time... LOL They finished the quartering by popping the trunk with an escavator bopping the cuts with the bucket.
The saw was a hand me down to me when I took over this business from my best friends brother, I just assumed his half. He climbs for PG&E now. If I were to replace the saw, I might try the husky as I have really good luck with my other Huskys... But... I do love my stihls too (except for the FS 250s of the last couple of years, but they aint chainsaws). Ground crew runs huskys and I (in the tree and felling it) run echo and stihl.. My 200t went buggy after five years and no one seems able to fix it up here (limited resources in mechanics here). So I am trying out the echo 360t and no it aint the stihl 200t but they work pretty nice with a 14 bar. My 200 would push a 16 bar no problem. But I had a budgte and they had CCs and good warrenty. At 300.00 per, I got two for redundency and even if I olny see two years out of them... think they payed for themselves. Dont shake your head at me now.. we all know 200t rocks.. I miss mine horribly.. Yet I buy at least two of everything in my line up with few exceptions. So two 200t's were just not in the cards two years ago and yes I probably will have two 200t's in the near future..
Bottom line through this thread is power.. use more power to the bar to get the job done and balance the weight issue and reliability and wear and tear on us climbers, especially when in the tree. The more efficient we are at our job, the more money we can make, plain and simple. Is a $1200.00 plus saw worth the money, h**l yes if you can apply it enough in your field.

[JIML]

I wouldn't use a 361 if there was a 460 440 near by. Im a small guy and not a small saw guy.

I dont like the 361, ours have 20" bars and thats too much bending over. I run a 24" on my 440 at work and have a 24" and 36" for my 660. At home I got a 660 that wears a 28". Its been ported and had the cylinder cut down and piston cut down also. Screams. I bought a 460 and tore it down to modify it, not got around to it yet.

After a while you get used to the little extra weight I guess.. Course you need to learn to work the saw and not let it work you first...

[CurSedVoyce]

I agree with you Jim ... Work the saw and not let it work you thing. Why I like adding HP to the bar... and also consider the weight.. I want something that will cut fast and produce cuts. Faster the cutting, lighter the weight, less I get worked overall.. I remember using my 066 for the first time.. Felt like it worked me... But I was pretty green to it and really could have done more of the job with less saw or less bar on the saw. Most of the trunk needed two cuts, but after that .. I could have used a smaller bar and sped up my work then transfer to a lesser saw to handle the next part of the tree bulk. I wish I had my 036 back then. I had a temper mental 251 Husky with a 24 bar so I rarely used it as it was temper mental. LOL... Now day what I am comfortable with and know is efficient in the wood I am working is in my hands. Crew puts it on a rope and sends it ot me as I call for it.. NP.. :)

[squisher]

I've been pulling my ehp361 over my 46's lately. Light, smooth, and power I'll never go back to stock saws now.

[CurSedVoyce]

hey guys.. Husky 372 or 575 ... what ya think???

[JIML]

Yah it used to really wear me out to run a saw much, now I can go all day anymore and be fine. Learn not to fight it. Once I pick it up, I don't put it down till im done, need to move brush or something out of the way it gets moved with the saw.

I cut alot of "brush" at work with the 440. I usually wear the bar out on the topside of the tip before it wears out anywhere else. Do most of my cutting there..

[squisher]

You doing alot of brushing right now on the line clearance or something? I did some treespacing when I was younger and those were long days on the saw, bush teaches you to be efficient.

Heavier is heavier no matter how efficient you are, all I'm saying is side by side I'm certain my modded 361 is more powerful then my old bagged out 46's so it's a easy choice to make. Don't get me wrong for a all around saw that's gonna have to do some bigwood duty I don't think that you can beat a 46.

Heck I don't think I'll be satisfied until I have two or three of every size. I'm still dying to get my hands on a 90.

[CurSedVoyce]

We do a lot of brushing here and use the huskys for it .. 455 ranchers and the 345s... Bars will always be an issue in the brush due to the pinching of the bar on multiple stress cuts.. Hard wood most of it like manzanita, buck brush and deer brush here. All with all kids or pinch points. Chains wear faster too. We even lose the the sprocket on the bar regular. About welds itself. lol. Have to dress the bars regular and watch for chain stress close. Drive sprockets also wear fast. Love doing the brush though. Gets us in to do the trees and we can really pretty up a property by selective cutting. Reason why we use huskys for the brushin, torque and just tough. I would burn out a stihl up here brushing with it. We also price our saws for short life and return on it. Including repairs, husky for brushing is the way to go .. It's like the old addage, Stihls in the air and huskys on the ground.. Our records show it is the way to go so far. Like I mentioned before though, Stihls are hard to get repaired up here, huskys easier. Stihl parts are higher priced too. Our authorised dealer (1) is also having issues with parts from stihl. Why we are trying other products with better warranties and such.. One dealer (1 hour away) that we could have service our stihls from time to time (when nobody else could fix it) dropped them. Hearing another just dropped Husky in the same distance frame cause they weren't backing their parts or warranties. See what haps. I am small engine certified from the 70's. I guess I will just have to possibly take matters and spend money on tools and such, into my own hands.

[stehansen]

My 660 originally came with a 42" bar and it pretty much sat in the truck most of the time. Since I boughta 32" bar it gets used way more often. When we have a big tree to cut up my guy starts on the small end with the 046 with a 20" bar and I start on the big end with the 660.

[JIML]

You doing alot of brushing right now on the line clearance or something? I did some treespacing when I was younger and those were long days on the saw, bush teaches you to be efficient.

Heavier is heavier no matter how efficient you are, all I'm saying is side by side I'm certain my modded 361 is more powerful then my old bagged out 46's so it's a easy choice to make. Don't get me wrong for a all around saw that's gonna have to do some bigwood duty I don't think that you can beat a 46.

Heck I don't think I'll be satisfied until I have two or three of every size. I'm still dying to get my hands on a 90.

Pretty much everything in the easement under the line gets cut out, no topping. Basically bare ground, then grass seed goes on. We don't trim like the "contractors"... Sky to ground, everything. Groundy gets alot of it but I don't start trimming till the brush is cut so I help alot of times.

[CurSedVoyce]

Same here Steve.. I start the crew on the upper end the 16s and 18s and i head for the big wood... Some of this is practicality as I probably felled the tree with the 066 anyway. That and the crew are a bit leary of that 066, and I like it that way. Two reasons.. I am used to running it and know its lil quirks (could take a leg ect.) and its a $1200 saw..... Do I really want anyone that has no vested interest in high dollar equipment running it??? Heck no!
We are a two owner business (3 actually counting the Mrs.) and only the owners run the higher dollar stuff.... Have experimented with this sceneareo... Funny how my maintenance curve went down with owner only on the upper equip.......Hmmmmm... LOL. Other side of this is I do work m way down saws once a tree in ground side. 066 then 036 then 455 then 345.... Gas matters.. anyone that has one (066 or like cc kind) knows the fuel these beasts use and when it is just better with a diffy saw.

[CurSedVoyce]

P.S. y'all would love to see my Katy on a saw... Ohhh Baby!
She works mostly as my spotter and cuts the falls up for the other crew members, but she aint as active in that regard of late. She is expecting and out of it till after Feb.... Almost 2nd trimester now. No saws for her.. LOL

[Canuck]

Otherwise you will end up with a very expensive shelf ornament. ;)


Thats what mine is. It basically only comes out if I'm running the 460 and hit a something in the wood. Its faster to start the 660 than change or sharpen a chain. I wish I would have bought a second 460 instead of a 660.

[Skwerl]

Ben, shoot me a pm if you want to sell the 660. :)

[Canuck]

I'll think about it.

[squisher]

Dang Brian you run a 660 and you'll never go back to that fleet of orange heaps that you got.:P

:lol:


Ben if Brian's not interested I may be, cheaper shipping.;)

[fallguy]

A question for you guys with the 046"s I'm looking to get one and put a 28" or 30" bar on it. What kind of chains are you runnig? I cut mostly hardwoods alot of dead oak thanks to the oakwilt problems around here.

[squisher]

I cut mostly softwoods and only run up to 25" on my 46's imo the lengths of bar you're talking are gonna be sloooooowwww on a 46. I run the Stihl chisel anywhere from full-skip to non-skip(what I call full house but I don't want to open that can of worms again :D)

[Al Smith]

I don't own an 046 but I do have a pair of 048's which are the same displacement although older .These will pull with relative ease a 32" in hardwood .

[fallguy]

What typr of chain are you running Al full, semi skip, or full skip?

[Al Smith]

What typr of chain are you running Al full, semi skip, or full skip? Full compliment round filed chisel on that bar .I have some skip on a 36 for the larger saws but this one does just fine in these hardwoods running full .

One thing thing to note,the damned Stihls are a little lacking in the oiling department to really oil good this length of bar . I seldom use this bar because I have larger saws with longer bars but it will do alright running it if needed .

[Al Smith]

--belay my last .I just found the picture the damned thing has full skip on it .Too many saws I forget what is on what .

[Husky D]

You can never be too young for a 066:D!

[brendonv]

I ran my 460 today with a full 28" bar through Red Oak. Thing chugged along like nobodys business. Glad I went with the saw and blower instead of the 660. The new 361 kicked ass all day and the BR600 saved me from taking out the rakes.

Thanks for the replys!

[fallguy]

Thanks for the info Al.

[squisher]

Not to sound the ass here but something tells me that other peoples ideas of cutting at an acceptable speed and my idea of cutting at an acceptable speed might be slightly different. My 660 was used today with a 32" bar and with the EHP mod it is just acceptable imo and still to slow with a 36" on it. I prefer to make my alap cut in 30+" wood without gnawing away for minutes on end.

Maybe I'm ADD but cutting slow bores me.:D

[MasterBlaster]

You so crazy! A 066 will pull a 36" bar no problemo!

[squisher]

Bahhhhhhh, wait til I get me a 090!:D

[fallguy]

Squishy I do not do production work so a little more time to make cut is not a problem. If I were doing this every day to make a living then I could justify a bigger saw.

[CurSedVoyce]

066 runs 36 bar fine.. use skip chain on mine yadda yadda. Same chain on 28 bar, no skip on 25 and all round chisel. Runs all N.P.
Skip chain on the 36 bar is a must though.

[squisher]

I have a 36" bar for my 660, I don't run it with it unless I need it.

I'll make a deal if people will stop saying 'it pulls a 36 just fine'. I'll quit saying 'it's not fast enough'.:D

We are talking purely opinion here. Certainly the saw will pull a 36", do I like the way it cuts while doing it no I don't personally

[CurSedVoyce]

OK OK OK
Yeah I prefer a smaller bar on it too. I dont like the flex in the 36 bar I have and probably need to get an opinion on a better bar. Probably run a better 36 better. Speed wise NP with the skip chain. But yeah I have more likable speed with under 36 bar. But again, Maybe a better bar with a good tip would pull better and not flex.

[squisher]

Cool. I've been bitten by the modded saw bug and now all I desire is MORE POWER!

[Skwerl]

I tried to warn ya, Skwishey. :P

[squisher]

I'm thinking about a new 460 before they're gone and then sending it to Ed. It's worth the wait.;)

Anyone here running a modded 460?

[Al Smith]

I prefer to make my alap cut in 30+" wood without gnawing away for minutes on end.

Maybe I'm ADD but cutting slow bores me.:D Say what,minutes on end,really minutes . Are you sure you don't have the chain on ass backwards .:lol: About a minute would be more like it on 30 inch unless it's petrified .

[squisher]

Ahhh Big A no need to get defensive, everyone knows your American minutes are longer than Canadian one's.........Takes you guys longer to do anything.:D

[Al Smith]

Well,I guess we are a little more layed back on this side of the border at times .In the frozen north country you folks have move faster or you would ice up,in places .:P

[sawinredneck]

WOW!!

Fallguy: I watched a stock 046 run a 32" fullcomp in White Oak. It lugged a lot. Skip would have been bette, but it did pull it and got the job done.

Sqishy: I run a modded 046, it has a woods ported aftermarket big bore kit. I run a 32" full comp and cut Hedge with it. It's not realy fast, but what is in Hedge? Oak is like butter!

[BostonBull]

I'm thinking about a new 460 before they're gone and then sending it to Ed. It's worth the wait.;)

Anyone here running a modded 460?

Even better I had a certain builder from the west coat of Canadia build mine, he can be found and begged to on racesaws. I am running a new 440 with a 460 heavily modded top end. He did some mods to the intake, carb, and a few others as well. This will outcut a stock 660 up to a 28" bar in any wood, and an operators race with a 32" in softwood.

Great saws. The 460 from my understanding wont be going anywhere for some time. The 362 will coming shortly as well as the 442. New handheld blowers this fall as well.

[fallguy]

Is there any advantage to semi skip over full skip? I have always used full comp but the bars I have run are 20" and under. I know teeny weeny.

[MasterBlaster]

I run semi skip on anything over 24". It's quicker to sharpen and slugs through the wood better.

[BostonBull]

Is there any advantage to semi skip over full skip? I have always used full comp but the bars I have run are 20" and under. I know teeny weeny.

Semi and full skip cut slower than full comp. But are far easier to sharpen on those longer bars. I run full skip, out of laziness of sharpening, on all bars over 24".

If full or semi skip cut faster, racers would use it!

[arborworks1]

BB, Are we to expect more power from the 362 and 442 or just revised emissions. I'm hoping the weight comes down a smidge on the 442. I was trying to find a few 440's but no luck here.

[Al Smith]

Oh I suppose it just depends on the wood and power you have available weather skip on a long bar is better than full comp or not .

I don't own an 066 to compair .However on the 125 Macs I have both skip and full and to tell the truth I can't tell much difference . When it comes time to file though it doesn't take nearly as long on skip . Now I'm here to tell ya,a 36" loop has a lot of cutters .

[CurSedVoyce]

I went to skip on my 066 with the 36 bar and did see a difference in cutting. It did seem to cut more efficiently. Maybe I better use a stop watch ... LOL

[BostonBull]

BB, Are we to expect more power from the 362 and 442 or just revised emissions. I'm hoping the weight comes down a smidge on the 442. I was trying to find a few 440's but no luck here.

Slight power increases, new air filtration, better engine designs (better emissins), and HOPEFULLY lighter. Thats what I was told by my Stihl rep.

[wiley_p]

Semi and full skip cut slower than full comp. But are far easier to sharpen on those longer bars. I run full skip, out of laziness of sharpening, on all bars over 24".

If full or semi skip cut faster, racers would use it!

You are part mistaken. Full skip will out cut comp on a "long" bar any day. The extra cutters on comp can't clear the cut so your cut speed drops when using long bars.8)

[MasterBlaster]

I've never used full, so far. Semi skip is my favorite configuration for under 3' bars.

[sotc]

just bought a roll of semi

[BostonBull]

You are part mistaken. Full skip will out cut comp on a "long" bar any day. The extra cutters on comp can't clear the cut so your cut speed drops when using long bars.8)

Ahhhh

You are correct sir! I should have clarified.

[Jamin Mayer]

The MS361 is great in the tree! Limbing and bucking is good too, but for the stuff you had in your photo, I wouldn't use the MS361.

The 460 is great on the ground for bucking larger wood. And, I'm with Skwerl, I roll with a 28" bar too. And it is not too heavy while using it in the tree for a removal.

I use the 088 for the larger stuff. I never regret that purchase either.;)

[Skwerl]

So, now that I talked Brendon out of buying a 660, it seems I may be in the market for one. I'm curious what the prices are around the country. My new favorite local dealer quoted me $945 plus tax today for a 660 with 32". Sounded like a heck of a deal, especially considering what I paid for that ported Husky 395 that I ended up sending back to Ed. I need a stump cutter, not a cookie cutter.

[sotc]

last year my dealer was selling them for 1100! a 200t is now 629!

[FJR]

The 660 is around $1100 here, sounds like you have a good deal on your hands.

[Tom_Scheller]

Yes, almost $1100 here too.

TS

[squisher]

Yup sounds good Brian, I'd have to dig up a receipt to see but I'm sure I paid more than that.

[cybergeek23851]

Brian, I think the local shop is close to that(945.00), maybe a bit less. I'll check when I go and pick up my parts I need.

[brendonv]

I'm bumping this thread. I'm so glad I ended up going with the blower and the 361 instead of the 660. I find the saw I grab for pretty much everything is the 361. The thing is very light and cuts like a dream with the 20". As you know I put a 28" on the 460 and it pulled through some large Beech the other day like nothing.

I haven't raked a lawn since the purchase of the BR600 either!

[MasterBlaster]

But you're comparing apples to oranges. The 66 is for running a bigger bar and cutting larger stuff. If you only run a 20" bar then by all means go with the smaller saw.

[squisher]

And a 46 ain't gonna hold a candle to a 66 in the longer bar lengths.

I agree though the 361 is a amazingly smooth saw to run, almost seems effortless.

[MasterBlaster]

A good firewood saw!

[squisher]

The 361? I dunno on the ground I still seem to grab a 46 first. Dangling or riding though I'll take the 361 always over a 46 now.

[brendonv]

I'm just saying I'm happy with my decision. It seems as of late all the big tree's are being done for free anyway, or close there too (just bid $3800, they got a price of 600, just bid $3500, they got a price of 1800). For me big tree's aignt the ticket, hence my question about even getting the 660. It seems residential treework around here is like logging, cut the tree down for a little money, then sell the firewood.

The 361 is great for limbing trees on ground, I am small and the 460 gets heavy.

[squisher]

The 361 is great for limbing trees on ground, I am small and the 460 gets heavy.



Ya need to work on your meathooks then.:D

[brendonv]

I try not to work to hard if I don't have too, got to keep energized for the afternoon activities... not all of us have bucket trucks :)

[Banned by Squirrels]

not all of us have bucket trucks :)

Ain't that the truth... :whine:

[squisher]

I'm just fooling around. But hell yah thank god for my bucket truck, I'd be lost without it fo sure!:D

[sotc]

if thatt dog was standing up it would make a prettier photo:lol:

[squisher]

Me and my dog aren't pretty, we're rugged!:D

[Skwerl]

I hear you, Brendon. And I'm glad you are seeing the light. I see way too many younger tree guys go out and buy a 660 before they have a decent compliment of smaller saws. Most guys buy a 660 because they can't get their smaller saws to cut well. But buying a big saw won't improve your sharpening skills. The 660 isn't going to make you as much money as a couple midsize saws (or a midsize saw plus a blower). And the other benefit is that it will force you to become better at sharpening chains since your 460 has to do all your big work. ;)

After 20 years of doing treework and currently owning about a dozen saws, I'm just about ready to pull the trigger on a new 660 for myself. I've never needed to buy one before, but now subbing with the bucket truck I'm doing a lot more big removals and many of the guys I'm working for don't own a big saw for the stump cuts. My three ported 372's are getting beat up on the big stuff so I think it may be time.

[stehansen]

if thatt dog was standing up it would make a prettier photo:lol:

At least he has all of his teeth in now.:lol:

Cheap shot I know, but I couldn't resist.

[squisher]

:lol:Gotta have my pearly whites! Although I sure wish they came with some kind of a replacement guarantee, sure don't want to have to do it again.

[sotc]

i knew something was missing:D

[stehansen]

What's all that stuff on your head?:?

[squisher]

Lol, I'm growing my hair long just to bug Brian!:D

[stehansen]

I'm just jealous.