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Skwerl
05-25-2008, 11:38 AM
I'm not sure how much the saw shops are charging these days, but bar oil is still only $5.17 per gallon at Wally World. I don't care what color the bottle is or what the name is on the label, it's got the sticky stuff in it to keep it from flinging off the bar. If you're still paying top dollar for Stihl brand bar oil, you're throwing your money away. I just stocked up on another 8 gallons and that should hold me over for a couple months.

GASoline71
05-25-2008, 11:45 AM
Nothin' wrong with that stuff Brian. I have used it before too... Just depends on where I happen to be when I remember i need to buy bar oil.

:)

Gary

fishhuntcutwood
05-25-2008, 11:51 AM
You're both silly. I buy only Stihl bar oil, and I buy the limited edition variety. It's bottled at a native oil spring in Belgium. It's laced with gold flake and pixie tears. It works great, and is only $25 a gallon. I hope you guys enjoy wrecking your saws!

mek
05-25-2008, 12:04 PM
4.99 a gallon at the local fleet farm a couple weeks ago. I cleaned off there shelf of that stuff. 10.95 a gallon at the local saw shop for stihl bar oil.

Al Smith
05-25-2008, 12:51 PM
Some time last year Stihl branded oil was about the same as TSC stuff . I've used both along with about every other brand .They all work .

BostonBull
05-25-2008, 01:01 PM
They all work, its what you like to run and what you like to pay. if you like to pay less and use reclaimed oil as bar oil buy from Wally world. if you like to run a proprietary virgin blend use Stihl, Husky or other "hugh priced" gold flaked pixie dust.

Each their own..

Jonseredbred
05-25-2008, 01:06 PM
I actually dilute Wally World bar oil with filtered used hydraulic oil from the fleet. During the summer months I go 2/3 bar oil to 1/3 used hydro. Winter 1/2 and 1/2 works well.

sotc
05-25-2008, 01:23 PM
sounds like a good idea andrew, i use wally world poulan oil also. in fact i need to go clean their shelf again, rakes to

Al Smith
05-25-2008, 03:04 PM
I hear these storys of reclaimed or filtered oil being sold as bar oil but I don't this to be truthfull or not . Any oil really doesn't "break down " it just gets contaminated . In the case of lube oils it can be filtered but I don't think indefinately .

It makes a pretty good source of heat in a waste oil burner though so it's not a total loss .

Skwerl
05-25-2008, 03:56 PM
BB, the Poulan bar oil from Wally World is virgin oil, not recycled.

BostonBull
05-25-2008, 05:37 PM
I am sure it is.

Jamin Mayer
05-25-2008, 05:38 PM
Hmm...It's worth trying Wally World's oil. If you don't like it, then don't use it. I'm gonna try it next time. Thanks for the tip Skwerl!

Stumper
05-25-2008, 06:19 PM
Jamin, FWIW Walmart has there own Tech 2000/SuperTech brand found in the automotive section and they carry Poulan in either the hardware section or Lawn and Garden area of the store. Both work just fine but the Poulan has a better bottle shape for both pouring and staying upright in the truck. I have used these oils for about twenty years except for my diversion into using cooking oil.

MasterBlaster
05-25-2008, 06:24 PM
I HATE those rectangular bottles. They really bite a big one! :X

stehansen
05-25-2008, 06:46 PM
I'm a Wally World bar oil customer. What do they do with the reclaimed engine oil Al?

sotc
05-25-2008, 07:27 PM
a logging outfit i used to work for put all the used engine oil through the bar saws

MasterBlaster
05-25-2008, 07:48 PM
Bad bad bad.

fishhuntcutwood
05-25-2008, 07:52 PM
Very very very bad bad bad.

Stumper
05-25-2008, 08:15 PM
I HATE those rectangular bottles. They really bite a big one! :X

Hmmm..have you perchance tried them since they were redesigned?

And BTW-Walmart and Poulan oils are either virgin base stocks or rerefined-nice clean honey colored oil. K-Mart used to sell a reclaimed ,filtered(?) bar oil that was a putrid green/black and stunk to high heaven.

Skwerl
05-25-2008, 08:26 PM
And don't forget the little trick about just cutting a slit in the foil seal rather than removing it. Makes it much easier to pour from the side without spilling oil everywhere.

MasterBlaster
05-25-2008, 08:29 PM
I showed somebody that yesterday.

mek
05-25-2008, 08:56 PM
Some of the liquid laundry soap bottles work good too. I don't think they are osha approved though.

Old Monkey
05-25-2008, 09:14 PM
I went into Walmart to buy oil the other day only to find they didn't have any. I'll have to stick with baby oil for a while.

mryb
05-25-2008, 10:06 PM
I'm not sure how much the saw shops are charging these days, but bar oil is still only $5.17 per gallon at Wally World. I don't care what color the bottle is or what the name is on the label, it's got the sticky stuff in it to keep it from flinging off the bar. If you're still paying top dollar for Stihl brand bar oil, you're throwing your money away. I just stocked up on another 8 gallons and that should hold me over for a couple months.

You know Skwerl, about 6 months ago or so we had a 5,923,512 page thread on bar oil. What the hell are you trying to prove now? Did you forget to bring a point up or just a poor memory? Now I had to take some of my precious time to kill this thread. I hope you break a clutch spring...Rick

Paul B
05-25-2008, 10:13 PM
I go through so little I buy the pixie dust laced Stihl stuff.

Stumper
05-25-2008, 11:08 PM
Rick, Bar oil threads are immune to your awesome thread killing powers.

Paul= Pixieboy

Al Smith
05-25-2008, 11:49 PM
I'm a Wally World bar oil customer. What do they do with the reclaimed engine oil Al?
I'm not sure they do anything with it but burn it now days .Years ago they used to filter the non detergent stuff and resell it at cut rate gas stations for about a quarter a quart .

Before the EPA got on them they used old oil on railroad sidings etc to keep down the dust .That was years ago also .

Non detergent oil keeps the particulates in suspension,easier to filter .Detergent oil ,the stuff gets pretty mixed in ,not easy to filter or at least that's what I've always been told .:?

Paul B
05-26-2008, 12:07 AM
I remember the gravel roads around here getting a summer oiling every year... and having to wash dads car after he found a freshly oiled road...

squisher
05-26-2008, 12:16 AM
Yup they used to always oil er up, not anymore though.

mryb
05-26-2008, 09:45 AM
Rick, Bar oil threads are immune to your awesome thread killing powers.

Paul= Pixieboy

Ahh, 9 hrs of peace so far on the bar oil thread...it doesn't get any better than this...Rick

Skwerl
05-26-2008, 10:10 AM
Ahh, 9 hrs of peace so far on the bar oil thread...it doesn't get any better than this...Rick

Idunno about any 'thread killing powers', perhaps it's more akin to a buzzard swooping in to peck at the flesh of a dead carcass...
;)

sawinredneck
05-26-2008, 10:12 AM
I figure I am just pumping it on the ground anyways, Ill buy the cheap stuff!!
I take the money I saved and use it to buy a better two stroke mix!

mryb
05-26-2008, 01:35 PM
I figure I am just pumping it on the ground anyways, Ill buy the cheap stuff!!
I take the money I saved and use it to buy a better two stroke mix!

The first person on this thread to make sense...Thank You

mryb
05-26-2008, 01:36 PM
Idunno about any 'thread killing powers', perhaps it's more akin to a buzzard swooping in to peck at the flesh of a dead carcass...
;)

Keep it up & you'll get a private message...Killer

sotc
05-26-2008, 07:57 PM
:D just making sure its well mixed:D

No_Bivy
05-26-2008, 09:15 PM
you got enough wedges?

sotc
05-26-2008, 09:40 PM
for that truck, i do:D

No_Bivy
05-26-2008, 09:43 PM
:lol:

stehansen
05-27-2008, 11:44 PM
It looks like you were spinning hookers in the parking lot.

sotc
05-27-2008, 11:49 PM
It looks like you were spinning hookers in the parking lot.

not sure what that means but dont tell my wife!:lol:

stehansen
05-28-2008, 12:12 AM
I just innocently mention the word hookers and he gets all nervous.

sotc
05-28-2008, 12:13 AM
like a cat in a room full of rocking chairs:)

NeTree
06-05-2008, 09:34 PM
Shhh.... the womenfolk will get suspicious.

Can't say I ever noticed any difference in chain/bar life with either brand oils, or the Wally stuff.

Take your savings and trade your Stihl for a Husky.

;)

Burnham
06-05-2008, 09:44 PM
Shhh.... the womenfolk will get suspicious.

Can't say I ever noticed any difference in chain/bar life with either brand oils, or the Wally stuff.

Take your savings and trade your Stihl for a Husky.

;)

Uh oh...think you got your brands backwards in your post there, brother...;)

:P8);)

lumberjack
06-05-2008, 10:13 PM
We went by our Wally World but couldn't find any bar oil.

Stihl oil is about 3 bucks more a gallon.

Stumper
06-05-2008, 10:27 PM
FYI Cheapskates. Check your Autozone. Our local store has Itasca bar oil for $4.99 per gallon. It is dandy motion lotion and even cheaper than Wally world.

top hopper
06-05-2008, 11:19 PM
The last 4 gallons Ive used were Biobuzz oil.

NeTree
06-05-2008, 11:55 PM
Uh oh...think you got your brands backwards in your post there, brother...;)

:P8);)


:p Nope. Got em exactly right. :)

Magnus
06-06-2008, 10:29 AM
Anyone here ever tried that stuff you mix with water?

I am curius about that. It seems to work ok.

I know a couple here that tried this stuff.

sotc
06-06-2008, 10:31 AM
never heard of it

NeTree
06-06-2008, 10:44 AM
You mean the water soluble oil like "SolZol"? Never tried it in a chainsaw.

sotc
06-06-2008, 11:15 AM
oh, we used soluble oil in alaska in the fish processing machines. mostly cause it was a food grade, but what we used was way to thin for bar oil

Al Smith
06-06-2008, 11:30 AM
I think it has more to do with the amount of oil ,not the brand .

It seems that the more modern saws and their wimpy oilers just wear out bars faster . If they put out about twice the flow it certainly would make things more simple .Then the "greenies " would whine about too much oil as if it were the wreck of the Exon V. all over again .

sotc
06-06-2008, 12:35 PM
shoulda seen the slick i put in someones pool the other day!

Al Smith
06-06-2008, 01:03 PM
Well a half a teaspoon of oil on the surface of a pool would look like the wreck of an oil tanker .

Magnus
06-06-2008, 03:17 PM
It is sold here by Oregon, I think it was and is called Arborol..
Mix is 1/10 and it is a oil for saws and harvesters etc.

I don't think it is anything other than a slimmed dryed regular oil to just add water, but I have yet to test this.

stig
06-06-2008, 04:15 PM
Remember to bring your saw indoors in the wintertime, that stuff will freeze solid in the oiltank and make it impossible to run the saw until it's all thawed out again.
Should work okay in Florida and southen California though.

JonnyHart
06-06-2008, 06:33 PM
It will get real thick in the cold, but the heat from the muffler will warm it up and keep it moving. Maybe not so much on a saw where the oil res isn't near the muffler, like the 200.

Al Smith
06-08-2008, 11:12 AM
The type of oiler is indeed a factor as to how well they work in cold weather .

The little slotted shaft pumps used on the small Huskies are not to good in this condition . Gear pumps are a little better.Pulse diaphragm pumps work so-so .Most likely the best is pulse driven piston pumps .

All that is nice to know but whatever is on the saw is what you have to deal with . In the past I've resorted to auto tranny fluid under extreme cold conditions .That stuff doesn't have the tacking agent that regular bar oil contains but at least it makes it to the bar which is better than not getting any oil there at all .

Drella
08-16-2008, 10:51 PM
Has anyone heard or have used veg-based oils?

I know that the viscosity of something like flax is comparable to that of bar oil..

Is this being used anywhere now or something like it???

lumberjack
08-16-2008, 10:57 PM
I found bar oil in my Wal Mart, for me it wasn't in Lawn and Garden, but on the same shelf as engine oil. It was labeled "SAE 30wt Bar Oil."

$5.50ish.

rbtree
08-17-2008, 04:54 AM
That's been my source for several years now. Was under $4 as recently as last year.

Frans
08-17-2008, 10:03 AM
I use the Wal-mart bar oil. 1 gal. Green bottle labeled Poulan. Under 5 bucks

mryb
08-17-2008, 10:16 AM
You know Skwerl, about 6 months ago or so we had a 5,923,512 page thread on bar oil. What the hell are you trying to prove now? Did you forget to bring a point up or just a poor memory? Now I had to take some of my precious time to kill this thread. I hope you break a clutch spring...Rick

You guys trying to get me stirred up again? Im still on medication from last time...Rick

darkstar
08-17-2008, 06:57 PM
I used cheap ass old engine oil till 1986 then i noticed all my saws almost immediatly blew the oilers:?:?:?

Drella
08-19-2008, 04:00 PM
Wal-Mart

Super-Tech SAE 30 bar oil

under $6.00 a gallon

Automotive Dept.

Tucker943
08-20-2008, 06:38 PM
I watched a dude run gas in his oil tank back in the line clearance days. He didnt feel like walking all the way to the trucks for oil. Saw never caught fire. I lost that bet.

darkstar
08-20-2008, 07:51 PM
Well just about anything would work untill they came up with these fancy oilers.
Shoot i enjoyed pressing the button everytime i wanted a squirt haha.

squisher
08-20-2008, 08:04 PM
I've thrown gas in the oil tank to clear a blocked oiler before. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. Never any problems from it though.

Tucker943
08-20-2008, 09:10 PM
I learned that you can do it (run gas through). I think it is a ballsy move. Lots of heat and friction under that clutch cover. i guess not enough to ignite.

Al Smith
08-20-2008, 09:15 PM
Kerosine or diesel fuel through an oiler is an age old fix that sometimes works .

Timely that this thread is still going on because Tom the tree guy just left .He dropped off a half a pickup full of old saws plus 20 gallons of bar oil just because he didn't like the stuff .Hey ,cheap is good free is better .;)

Jamin Mayer
08-20-2008, 09:55 PM
Man, I'm still using the green Wally World bar oil since I found out they sell some. I have not had a problem. Can't notice any difference. I even saw guys in Jerry's videos using the Wally World stuff. I figure; if the loggers use it, then there isn't a problem.

I'm glad you guys brought it up. I wouldn't have even checked if they had it.:thumbup:

bushman
08-23-2008, 08:35 AM
Check out stils biobaroil ,its works great and if you spill it on soil it feeds the soil.works great wth old big saws.high dollar stuff.

Frans
08-23-2008, 11:00 AM
Man, I'm still using the green Wally World bar oil

I bought a gallon of bar oil from Ace hardware last week. The stuff was completely black. It even smelled like recycled motor oil. At least wally world oil is nice and clean, and inexpensive.
Its hard to buy here. Several tree guys are hip to it, and come in with shopping carts and clean them out (me included )

CurSedVoyce
03-05-2009, 10:37 PM
I wanted to bring to every one's attention that Echo put their bar oil on sale recently. Still is here so far.. About 2 bucks or more cheaper per gallon individually than the other stuff I can get up here. Might be worth checking into.

squisher
03-06-2009, 09:49 PM
And the bar oil thread lives on.:lol:

Dave Shepard
03-06-2009, 10:01 PM
Which is better, Stihl, or Husky?

























:P

CurSedVoyce
03-06-2009, 10:02 PM
Don't even start that .. LMAO

Tucker943
03-06-2009, 10:06 PM
wait..........in a pinch can I run motor oil through the saw?

CurSedVoyce
03-06-2009, 10:07 PM
YUP

Tucker943
03-06-2009, 10:09 PM
that was a joke

squisher
03-06-2009, 10:22 PM
:lol:lmao.

What you aren't into recycling?:lol:

mryb
03-06-2009, 11:32 PM
Why does my eye start twitching & a vain pop out in my forehead every time I get on a BAR OIL THREAD?

CurSedVoyce
03-06-2009, 11:37 PM
Be afraid be very afraid .. LMAO

squisher
03-07-2009, 10:12 AM
Now we all know used motor oil is a big no no in the chainsaw. But! I'm changing out my oil on my boom this next week. I think I read about someone on here using that used oil as bar oil before is this true?


Rick you're going to have to try harder to kill this thread.:D

Skwerl
03-07-2009, 11:34 AM
Used hydraulic fluid won't hurt anything, although it won't have the tackifier to keep it from slinging off the bar. Maybe you could mix it 50-50 with bar oil to get some tackifier? You're probably using AW-32 so it should be plenty thin enough to flow well. That helps on those Stihls since they tend to be kinda stingy on bar oil.

Al Smith
03-07-2009, 11:36 AM
Stihls since they tend to be kinda stingy on bar oil. Ain't that the truth .:(

squisher
03-07-2009, 11:55 AM
Yah AW-32. I'll try it out then and see how it woks, I'm going to have aprox 25gallons of the stuff so I'm hoping it works out ok. Mixing it would probably work too, if it's to thin or not sticking enough I'll definetly try that out.

8)

mryb
03-07-2009, 07:14 PM
Rick you're going to have to try harder to kill this thread.:D

Give it time. Or maybe Im losing my touch...

sawinredneck
03-07-2009, 08:22 PM
Give it time. Or maybe Im losing my touch...

You are loosing your touch!!:P

I am hearing of guys now mixing bar oil with canola oil having good results:?

Dave Shepard
03-07-2009, 08:29 PM
I have been mixing the bar oil in my saws with more bar oil at every fill up. It's been working splendidly now for about 15 years.

No_Bivy
03-07-2009, 08:43 PM
I have been mixing the bar oil in my saws with more bar oil at every fill up. It's been working splendidly now for about 15 years.

say what?:?

Dave Shepard
03-07-2009, 08:48 PM
That was in response to Andy's post about mixing canola oil with the bar oil.

MasterBlaster
03-07-2009, 08:48 PM
Hahahaha.

sawinredneck
03-07-2009, 10:11 PM
I have been mixing the bar oil in my saws with more bar oil at every fill up. It's been working splendidly now for about 15 years.

A ratio??????????????? Anything?

sotc
03-07-2009, 10:14 PM
what evers in the tank:what ever it take to fill it again:lol:

justin, your aw32 is practically food grade anyway so your saving the world at the same time;)

stehansen
03-07-2009, 10:48 PM
He'll be drinking it now that you said that Willie.

okietreedude
03-07-2009, 11:38 PM
I used actual veggie oil a couple yrs ago for about 6 months. after 3 burned up oilers in 2 diff saws, I went back to the regular oil. someone on AS gave me hell for not taking better care of my saws....he can go spank himself.

last time i bought oil, i think i paid right at $6/gal. its off brand stuff.

Al Smith
03-08-2009, 07:57 AM
Danged price went up on all oils no matter what they are used for .

Somebody on one of the forums claimed they went through a couple hundred gallons of bar lube a year . Sounds like a bunch to me but it is the internet ya know .Any way this guy used hydraulic oil he found some place ,maybe from oil changes on back hoes or something .

I suppose it would work if you had a saw thet would really pump oil which eliminates most Stihls .

Now that deal of using old crankcase oil is another thing .I'm cheap but I'm not that cheap .Gawd having to fool with stuff to save a buck is about nonsensical in my opinion but whatever anybody actually does to their saws is their business . I'm not going that route myself ,yuck .:(

woodworkingboy
03-08-2009, 09:49 AM
I once read where a chainsaw expert recommended using winter viscosity bar oil all year round, better penetration into the chain, he claimed. I've started to do that. Seems like it might help the saws with reduced oil output too.

Al Smith
03-08-2009, 11:10 AM
I don't know .If the stuff doesn't have enough tacking agent in it you can fling a lot of it off .

Some of those little saws with pressurized oil tanks just won't shove thick oil out to the bar when it gets cold . Tranny fluid works you just use a lot of it .

Maybe ,just maybe salad oil would work better it that case .Can't say for sure though,never used it .

I will say this though,Crisco or salad oil is a good lubricant for spinning on tubeless tires .The veggie oil doesn't work on the rubber the same as petroleum based lubricants . Then again how many people besides myself mount tubeless tires ,trivia .

stehansen
03-08-2009, 11:55 AM
I've seen my tire guy put soap on the tires for mounting them. Sounds like some sort of prison thing.

Al Smith
03-08-2009, 12:07 PM
Rambling on ,"poly water" which is a wire pulling lubricant is nothing but that bio tech stuff sold by Oregon .It basically is KY jelly and also makes a good tire mounting thing .

Another trivia item .Jelled water has less friction that straight water and is used in hydrafracturing sub strata rock fomations in oil wells .

So when all is said and done really KY jelly has as many uses as WD-40 and duct tape .How 'bout them apples .:lol:

stehansen
03-08-2009, 12:13 PM
Another trivia item .Jelled water has less friction that straight water and is used in hydrafracturing sub strata rock fomations in oil wells ..:lol:

I was wondering how they did that.:D I've only seen water wells being drilled and they don't go so deep as to need K-Y, only mud.

Al Smith
03-08-2009, 12:44 PM
I was wondering how they did that.:D I've only seen water wells being drilled and they don't go so deep as to need K-Y, only mud. Apples and oranges .Drilling mud just keeps the bit from sticking and washes away the rock dust else it could get stuck tight as a bulls azz in fly time .

Hyrdafracturing is where they crack the rock formation around the base of a well by intense hydraulic pressure and blow in coarse sand or bauxite to create like a big wick type condition to capture more oil .

They use several methods depending on the type of sub strata rock . I'm certainly no expert on the subject by any means .What info I know comes from my brother who once worked the oil fields around Gillette Wy and Sydney Mont .

Chisel Tooth
03-08-2009, 12:48 PM
Yepum duct tape has a lot of uses

mryb
03-11-2009, 08:45 AM
Rick you're going to have to try harder to kill this thread.:D

There, was that better? Nothing on here for 2 days...

Stumper
03-11-2009, 11:35 AM
Squishey-san, The hydraulic fluid works petty well as barlube but it slingeth profusely forsooth. I used it straight in the power pruner and in othe4 saws when things were below freezing but otherwise found that mixed 50/50 with tackified baroil was a happier solution.

squisher
03-11-2009, 12:58 PM
Thanks for the advice Justin.8)

cory
03-11-2009, 07:31 PM
I went to the hardware store to pick up a few gal to tide me over till I could get to the tree supply store for some cases. Stihl oil was $19.25 per gal......:O I bought one gal of no name brand for $13.96. I called the tree store, they sell for $8+ per gal. So maybe I should check Walmart, huh?

sawinredneck
03-11-2009, 07:35 PM
Yeah, I was at Lowes the other day and running low, the cheapest they had was $8.69 a gallon, the Husky stuff was around $17 a gallon!!

Cut4fun
03-11-2009, 07:59 PM
My Lowes was $8 and change for Husky.
Walmart Poulan $7 ,
Sure Tech $7 makes good winter oil, thinner.

woodworkingboy
03-11-2009, 08:14 PM
You guys are buying by the gallon? You should be purchasing minimum 4 gallon cans. Isn't it sold that way over there?

Mr. Sir
03-11-2009, 08:16 PM
Never saw a 4 gallon can around here. :/: Besides, my guys would end up spilling half of it on the ground. :? But that's not a bad thing, right? It just gets "absorbed" by the environment. :roll:

Chisel Tooth
03-11-2009, 08:48 PM
You guys are buying by the gallon? You should be purchasing minimum 4 gallon cans. Isn't it sold that way over there?

I'm not sure about the others but I know you can get Stihl oil from 1 quart up to a 55gal drum.

Al Smith
03-11-2009, 08:49 PM
You are being ridiculous again , Sir Mister

darkstar
03-11-2009, 09:25 PM
I was way into the 5 gallon thing.
My guys were not, so i told umm to buy their own ber earl.

okietreedude
03-11-2009, 10:16 PM
I wish you could buy by the 5 gal can.

stehansen
03-11-2009, 10:22 PM
I can get it in a 2.5 gallon can at my local Exxon dealer. The only trouble with it is that it is a tranismission oil base and everytime I take my saw in to be worked on the mechanic will sniff the oil and look at me like I just molested some little girls and ask me am I using transmission oil, don't I know what proper bar oil is? I think the Poulan oil at Wally World is just as cheap anyway.

sotc
03-12-2009, 12:50 AM
i can get it in 5 gallon and 55 gallon. i used to buy walmart for 4.88 a gallon, chevron pails were 35 bucks then. more expensive and more of a pain, ill stick to gallons if thats the case

CurSedVoyce
03-12-2009, 12:51 AM
I can get case breaks on 1 gals up here. 10 percent. I prefer the gallons. More expensive... But it's just the way I am ;)

discgolfborist
03-29-2009, 12:16 AM
We ran sunflower seed bar oil until the local shop stopped carrying it. The only problem was that you would get so hungry running the saw from the smell of "roasted" sunflower seed.