Too dead to climb?

[JIML]

I got a tulip poplar I went and looked at today. Its 32-36" dbh 60' tall maybe. Its dead. Only maybe 8 good sized limbs left on it, and 2 tops that can just be pulled into the yard. Smallest wood I would have to get on would be 10" maybe. Take a few chunks and drop the rest.

Its dead, bark is still on it but I can pull it off in big sheets, wood doesn't seem any softer than a living one, but im not sure about up in the air. It would be an easy tree, Only have to tie in to get out on one of the tops, it has a big dogleg in it, rest would be working off a lanyard. The limbs up in the air, anything smaller than 6" is bald, no bark left...

My gut says don't climb it and let someone with a lift get it, I should have got pictures.... Pass it on? From my experience, the gut is usually right, but I havn't done much dead stuff, mostly pines.

[Hobby Climber]

Lets see...common sence is taught & learned. Your gut feeling on the other hand is instinctive and its something your born with that helps keep you alive even if your uneducated.

Kinda like that uneasy feeling you get when you get to close to the railing on the 18th floor balcony! Once you step back...you feel better/safer!

That said, I'd go with your gut every time!!! When in doubt...subcontract it out!!!;)

Then again, education (with proper equipment) overcomes fear!

Just my thoughts,


HC

[MasterBlaster]

have to tie in to get out on one of the tops,

That's the part I'm not too keen on.

[squisher]

If a lift can reach it let a lift do it.

[BostonBull]

I would say that you seem nervous about it already. Its not going to get any better once your in the tree. Sub it out and be onsite to see what the wood is like, and other tips you may be able to pick up along the way. Dead trees are always a roll of the dice. Maybe the roots died first and the tree is unsafe to climb period?

You cant TEACH common sense! You can teach people anything, except common sense. You either have it or you dont!

[OTGBOSTON]

You cant TEACH common sense! You can teach people anything, except common sense. You either have it or you dont!

what kind of person are you Jimmy?:/:

[RIVERRAT]

Its impossible to give a respectable response with out a pic. That said I would go with your gut feeling

[Old Monkey]

Tulip poplars aren't that reliable when alive. Listen to your gut, I always do but mine always says stuff like "Chocolate!" or "Donuts!"

[No_Bivy]

the little voice?...................= crane?

[sawinredneck]

GUT GUT GUT!!!!!!
If it feels good, do it lots, if it doesn't feel right, RUN!!

[Burnham]

Listen to the voice, the gut feeling...good advice every time imo.

[JIML]

That's the part I'm not too keen on.

Me neither, if it was all lanyard work I wouldn't give it a second thought hardly..









The roots are dead, there were shrooms of some sort all around the tree out 10-12 feet from the base...

[OTGBOSTON]

The roots are dead, there were shrooms of some sort all around the tree out 10-12 feet from the base...

Walk.

[top hopper]

Bah-

You only live once!

Just climb it.

[MasterBlaster]

YOU go first!

[OTGBOSTON]

Bah-

You only live once!

Just climb it.

and he's only 23, lots of livin' left to do........If he were a man of your advanced age...............;):P

[Skwerl]

What's the matter, Jim? Are you a
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?

[OTGBOSTON]

OMG!!! he just called you a

[top hopper]

YOU go first!


:D

[top hopper]

and he's only 23, lots of livin' left to do........If he were a man of your advanced age...............;):P


Advanced age?

I probably ain't much older than you.

but Ive got balls of steel! :lol:

[OTGBOSTON]

Advanced age?

I probably ain't much older than you.

but Ive got balls of steel! :lol:


well yeah, you're three years older (I can see your age, same as you can see mine:|:)

balls of steel? thats cool, but don't encourage the young un;)

[top hopper]

He'd be a fool to go against his gut because of what someone told him to do on an internet forum.


"Well, at first I thought it didn't look to safe, but someone on the internet told me to go for it. And that how I acquired this cool wheelchair."

Go with your gut Jim!

Ya pansy! :D:P;)

[squisher]

Lol, :lol:


Don't do it!!!!!!

Do it!!!!!

Don't do it!!!!

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

[top hopper]

Id do it!


errr, maybe.

[squisher]

I'd do it...................from my bucket.:D

[top hopper]

Sure, rub it in!


Id actually just hire my trusty sub. He'd do it. He eats anything.

[squisher]

You sub a bucket? Or another climber?

Orrr just what in the hell are you doing now anyways?:?


:P:lol:

[inztrees]

don't hit your steel balls on any power lines

[top hopper]

I sub a climber- aka- Hollywood


As to your other question. :/:


Im still doing what Ive always been doing......

[top hopper]

don't hit your steel balls on any power lines


They're coated with a protective layer of ..... ummmm......

fiberglass?

[Al Smith]

OMG!!! he just called you a What the hell happened to that cat .:lol:

[JIML]

I believe this thread just made a left turn lol

[Bounce]

a HARD left!

I'd say no way. Makes me think of Peter Donzelli.

[xtremetrees]

Jiml if you have to ask just walk on it, that way your sure there will always be another tree.
JimL I will add I can count on my hands how many dead trees I have walked on in 14 years.
More often than not dead trees arent as hazardous as what is unseen ie holoow spots and lightening struck. IMHO.

Bounce, Pete was not in a dead tree, why does this make you think of him?

[top hopper]

Maybe because he was in a tree that failed structurally?

Dead or Alive, isnt that the main concern?

[xtremetrees]

Are you axing me a question, or are you confused as to what a dead tree is?

[top hopper]

My point is- it doesnt matter whether the tree is dead or alive....

The tree failing is Jim's concern,
Donzelli was in a tree that failed, hence Sean's statement.


Get it?

[xtremetrees]

No i dont get it , a lightening struck tree is different than say a hollow tree and is different than a dead tree . THese are different mosnters and should be treated , approached with different methodologies.

Ding dong wake up call brother my bread and butter is off dead trees whats that tell you about lightening struck... nothing.

MoR (modulous of rupture) is only 400 lbs weaker on a poplarthan a pine which come in a 5,200 and 4,800 respectfully.

Here ya go climbing stone dead poplar.

Post a pick and help JimL out.

[Burnham]

Uhhh, Robert, ease up there maybe.

[Mr. Sir]

No i dont get it , a lightening struck tree is different than say a hollow tree and is different than a dead tree . THese are different mosnters and should be treated , approached with different methodologies.

Ding dong wake up call brother my bread and butter is off dead trees whats that tell you about lightening struck... nothing.

MoR (modulous of rupture) is only 400 lbs weaker on a poplarthan a pine which come in a 5,200 and 4,800 respectfully.

Here ya go climbing stone dead poplar.

Post a pick and help JimL out.

I see the dead trees, but I don't see anyone climbing them.

[top hopper]

Robert,

you obviously havent a clue WTF Im talking about, and as usual, I dont know or care WTF you're talking about.

[xtremetrees]

I recon your the same in person top hopper.
Mr Sir it was 1,800 in about 4 hours. Cut and leaf.

[top hopper]

I recon your the same in person top hopper.




Uh, Thank you! Thank you very much!









:lol::lol::lol:

[top hopper]

and by the way Robert, or would you prefer Bob?

My friends call me John.

[xtremetrees]

I'm Robert John nice to meet ya.

[top hopper]

:beerchug:



Right back attchya!

[Mr. Sir]

I'm Robert John nice to meet ya.

pleasure to meet you Robert John! You may call me Mr. Sir.

[top hopper]

pleasure to meet you Robert John! You may call me Mr. Sir.



:lol:

[xtremetrees]

Sup Mr. Sir
Ya'll think JimL will survive and bump his own thread? lol

[squisher]

Dang man what's cut and leaf on dead trees mean?


Robert why so agressive?

Justin

[Old Monkey]

Why so serious?


Well I turned around after reading this thread and climbed a big dead black walnut. Someone said it had leaves on it last year. They are either blind or a big fibber. The tree has been dead for years and years. I made my bid time wise but I should have added money to it for the "nuts factor." Willie gave me a call while I was in the tree and assured me that the big splits in the wood did not make it through the center of the tree. He was right, the tree didn't break and I didn't die. We used the GRCS and it helped greatly but is was probably not the best first tree for the guys to rig as I had them crank branches up and over and then they smashed into the trunk spraying them with broken twigs.

[MasterBlaster]

the tree didn't break and I didn't die.


I love when that happens! :beer:

[Old Monkey]

That's my favorite kind of job too.

[sotc]

Willie gave me a call while I was in the tree and assured me that the big splits in the wood did not make it through the center of the tree. He was right, the tree didn't break and I didn't die..

i looked at them through my crystal ball haha

[JIML]

He has a guy with access to a bucket truck that I may be able to use... Who knows, still wants me to do it but im not climbing it!

[hugashe]

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[Blinky]

Sounds like Gerry B to me. Cool tricks.

[Skwerl]

I love watching a master at work! :)

[Old Monkey]

Jerry posted this a while back.

[rbtree]

First I'd seen it...nice work, Ger!

note Gerry's deep face cuts on the short spars...let's 'em tip over easily.

[PCTREE]

that guy climbing the pine needs one of my Oh Sh#t lanyards.......