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darkstar
05-18-2008, 04:36 PM
Oh yeah using a micro pulley on the lanyerd and vt and pretty much same for climbing my line.
All my gear was stolen so i busted out my old spikes and leather and tossed together a climbing system like many of you all use.
Ive been going strong with two gri gri 's since they invented that chit.
Ill have to say the micro pulley VT or prussick or swabitch sp haha on the lanyerd was ok except when i tossed it round the spar .Its just longer clunkier and harder to catch.
Also i was using 10.5 mill. rockclimbing line, dont ask , and of course just about any knot i tied wanted to cinch up a bit if i really put some pressure on it.
Could someone point me to some basic hitches using a micro pulley, i love it,
Its awesome for instant one handed adjustment.
But the gri gri or grilion, if you will ,is to .
I basically need tree spyders site but cant remember the link.

And to think i was finally in caddies, MB talked me into, that and now im back to these ,but not for long .I dunno it felt good, kinda nostalgic.:O

darkstar
05-18-2008, 04:37 PM
Dont get envious over those limb walkers either haha i remember how bad i got dissed befor.
Its the icesickle i want to tie , i remember spydy showed me that way back and it was an awesome hitch.

MasterBlaster
05-18-2008, 04:49 PM
Man, it hurts me just looking at them!

Skwerl
05-18-2008, 04:54 PM
Here's my 4-1 VT. Very efficient as long as the cord isn't too long. You want the cord as short as possible without actually binding. If the cord is too long then either shorten it or add an extra braid to make a 4-2 VT. I use New England Sta-Set 3/8" cord (double braid polyester).

darkstar
05-18-2008, 05:10 PM
Nice skwerl ,this is what seemed best for me yesterday plain old prusick but i just climbed one single populis.About an hour's climbin.
MB yeah, all i remember is the pain, but i guess when your shins are fresh its not all that bad.
I didnt hurt to much. A long day would have had me in tears and ready to fight. Ill be ordering caddies again soon. Can you believe they stole umm.Stole almost 8k in goddies .

Oh and i just had to include the much hated and often overlooked IMO gri gri.:P

Im tying that rt. now skwerl.

Skwerl
05-18-2008, 05:12 PM
There's a link to Spydey's website in Butch's signature line. ;)

darkstar
05-18-2008, 05:16 PM
My tenex is way way to long

darkstar
05-18-2008, 05:24 PM
???

Its to long ...
Sloppy as and proably not tied correctly

No_Bivy
05-18-2008, 05:26 PM
Whered your stuff get stolen from? You can stream line that laynard a little bit more. couple more wraps and ditch the screw gate....get a triple lock for sure.

brendonv
05-18-2008, 05:29 PM
It does look a little loose/meaning it might slip. You really have to experiement with the wraps/braids to find your sweet spot.

darkstar
05-18-2008, 05:29 PM
Better ?

brendonv
05-18-2008, 05:40 PM
Looks good to me. I run 4wraps 3 braids. Looks can be deceiving, try it out.

brendonv
05-18-2008, 05:41 PM
Here's my rig for pics sake.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c351/Brendonv/Gear/NewTribe004.jpg

darkstar
05-18-2008, 05:56 PM
They stole from my shed busted through the lock at night.

I was just trying it, seems ok ,just long.

JohnB
05-18-2008, 06:06 PM
How do you like the little spikes on the bottom of the shanks on your spikes?

MasterBlaster
05-18-2008, 06:10 PM
Haha. I wouldn't want them!!!

arborworks1
05-18-2008, 06:33 PM
It has to hurt standing on those three bolt heads. What if you tacked them in and cut the head off.

No_Bivy
05-18-2008, 10:51 PM
Here's my rig for pics sake.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c351/Brendonv/Gear/NewTribe004.jpg

SPLICE!

darkstar
05-18-2008, 11:22 PM
I call those my limb walkers and for those who havent tried them ie MB you really dont know what you are talking about. NO? HAR i got you there.
Remember how everyone all said oh yeah we love umm but only on our studded lumber jack boots.
No biggie just a novelty i did like them climbing mossy covered trees in county clare.Near Lough Derg.
Lots of moss on those trees the studs help because when you think about it that bottom of your shank is really the only slippery place on your foot when in boots and spikes.
Anyhow does anyone else here like the ice sickel ?
Its smooth as on rough rope.
Im still stuck in gri gri land though but im breaking out...

darkstar
05-18-2008, 11:23 PM
Yeah splice fo so , i just wish i was good enough to do it myself cause id like a way shorter tenex.

NickfromWI
05-18-2008, 11:28 PM
Ill have to say the micro pulley VT or prussick or swabitch sp haha on the lanyerd was ok except when i tossed it round the spar .Its just longer clunkier and harder to catch.

Dark, why are you tossing the hitch around the spar? Don't you throw the other end?

love
nick

brendonv
05-18-2008, 11:28 PM
SPLICE!


Bleh.:evil:

NickfromWI
05-18-2008, 11:29 PM
Oh, yeah...get rid of those knots already!!!!

No_Bivy
05-19-2008, 06:03 AM
Bleh.:evil:

at least your climbing line........to much goin on , on that one biner. You could always split the tail end to a seperate biner too. I aint trying to be critical......try it, you may likeee:D

Tom_Scheller
05-19-2008, 07:27 AM
Its the icesickle i want to tie , i remember spydy showed me that way back and it was an awesome hitch.

I use an icicle (http://www.mytreelessons.com/user/Icicle-Notes-a.JPG), it is awesome.

TS

sotc
05-19-2008, 10:08 AM
at least your climbing line........to much goin on , on that one biner. You could always split the tail end to a seperate biner too. I aint trying to be critical......try it, you may likeee:D

i like just one also, try it, you may like it:D

Skwerl
05-19-2008, 01:07 PM
I tried the 'everything on one biner' method and found that the slight side loading on the friction hitch caused it to slightly bind and not release as well. The hitch cord has to relax and open up to release completely, all that other stuff crammed around it can interfere.

brendonv
05-19-2008, 04:11 PM
I've been running that system for a while now. Haven't had any problems. I was tired of the clanging of 2 biners on the single tie in area, sometimes one biner would turn sideways and load on the gate. Not good.

I had a spliced end on my old climbing line. It got stuck in a crotch once and it pissed me off so I run splice less now.

Burnham
05-19-2008, 10:15 PM
I use an icicle (http://www.mytreelessons.com/user/Icicle-Notes-a.JPG), it is awesome.

TS

Me, too...it's my current fav, been on it a year or so.

darkstar
05-20-2008, 12:38 PM
Icicle is where its at tried it just now awesome.
Nic, i prefer to have ultra light weight set up so my laynerd is tied directly in hence i cannot throw it , i may change that as well though.
I was comparing my rig to all my buddies mine felt like it weighed about one quater of me friends.
I hate extra biners and stuff hanging on. I dont even climb with a hand saw anymore.
So my whole set up has just two locking biners plus either two gri gri's or two micro pullyes and two tenex spliced shorties.
No fluff.
Im sticking to the new school methods for a spell, but so far im not seeing any real advantages over the gri gri system.I imagine with time however i could fly more effectively. I guess the main advantage is you can use standerd tree climbing rope for the hitch set ups where as i can only use high end expensive dynamic 9.8 mill or 10 mill rock climbing rope for gri gri. Any other rope and the gri gri is useless ,as it is to stiff.